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JoelHruska · 24th May 2020, 04:25

Per request, here are clips of specific scenes from Sacrifice of Angels from a VOB of the DVD. Clip explanations below. Clips are cut to 10 seconds or less per Manono's advice, unless it made no sense to split the scene at that point. Contiguous versions of two longer scenes (FFE = First Fleet Engagement, SFE = Second Fleet Engagement) are available below. I tried to start each clip with a few frames of padding on each side.

In most of the clips below, there are specific places I'm hoping to achieve better antialiasing results. I used QTGMC partly because it fixed some of the problems I'm going to describe below and would like to duplicate this (or improve upon the initial repair). I'm going to describe some specific problem spots I saw in the 23.976 version of this footage because it's all I have for reference and because I was attempting to repair very specific things in certain cases.

Apparently, I cannot offer a direct download link via SendSpace unless I have a premium account. A link to 13 of the 14 uploaded clips is here:

https://fs01u.sendspace.com/upload?S...TINATION_DIR=5

You do not need to download "FirstFleeetEngagement-Complete" if you download "FirstFleetEngagement-Short1" through "Short3." The complete version of "SecondFleetEngagement" is only available on OneDrive below due to size restrictions. Files are abbreviated as "FFE" and "SFE" on OneDrive after I realized the file names were too long for easy display. The 14th file is "SFE-Complete" and it does contain a few scenes on the Defiant that are not embedded in SFE-1 -- SFE-5.

Alternately, if you want individual file downloads, you can use the OneDrive links below:

A link to the entire directory is here.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AphTLFRW13WMjk7i...dRO9I?e=3NcPQ3

Individual file links in-line below. Each individual file link will open a OneDrive link. OneDrive does *not* require you to have a login, and you can download by hitting the button in the upper-left-hand corner.

FirstDefiantFlyby:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlmk...A7rPM?e=UFmhtT

There's aliasing on both the Excelsior-class ships (inside the nacelles) and the Defiant's angle of attack in this scene is hard to fix. QTGMC against 23.976 fps did a very good job of resolving a troublesome flicker on the Defiant's left "shoulder" that gave me a lot of trouble, but I never had a great solution to the in-nacelle aliasing. Would like to nuke that from orbit.

FirstDominionFleet:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlKd...fALn3?e=RgO5tL

At the end of this clip there are three Jem'Hadar scarab fighters visible. All three have strong horizontal aliasing across their bottoms. I'd like to eliminate it as part of properly processing the scene. QTGMC using my repair script against a 23.976 MKV does a very good job of eliminating the horizontal lines.

SecondDefiantFlyby:

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjleX...0nKcK?e=mzSZ13

This is one where I've had trouble with some scripts causing backwards movement in the small fighters that fly across the screen. The background ships are basically fine no matter what you run against them.

First Fleet Engagement (FFE) 1-3

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlTG...HFrqU?e=mDKlE4

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlHg...l2aGB?e=dfREGR

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlYt...lENGV?e=yWZGR5

This scene hasn't been problematic, per se, but it's definitely one of the major CGI battle scenes of the episode, so it's included for those reasons. If you want to download the entire contiguous clip, you can do so here (100MB file).

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlpF...psSD_?e=gmrWr5

Second Fleet Engagement (SFE) 1- 5

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjljS...ek-we?e=nswJKR

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlWM...I3x6M?e=DjUO8I

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlMe...v6E3y?e=mhfNsh

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlA2...H_ocz?e=YWsefX

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjk8D...98s-w?e=3ehQve

The second full fleet engagement. Major things I'm hoping to fix include nacelle-aliasing and the very aliased lines across the bottom of the Miranda-class vessel's ventral saucer. (SFE-1). The other scenes of SFE have been pretty solid, but are included here for completeness' sake. The SFE clips 1-5 omit the Defiant scenes that take place in-between the CGI shots. The full file, available here:

SendSpace is limited to 300MB, so if you want the full file, OneDrive is the only place to go.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlvP...w7gN7?e=qOAQeq

Includes the Defiant interim scenes as well as the CGI scenes.

Trivia: According to the VFX team that built the show, this was the most-detailed fleet battle they ever shot. They brought in tactical experts specifically to help them design the fight. SFE is the arguable high-water mark for DS9's entire seven-year run, so if there was one CGI scene to absolutely nail, this one would be it.

Sisko-On-Defiant

Finally, I've uploaded a clip that I thought might be useful for seeing how DS9 mixes and matches VFR content together. All frame rate references measured using MPC-HC. The frame rate when the DVD is played back begins at 29.97 fps, but starts dropping immediately. By the time the shot switches to Defiant, the frame rate is 23.976 fps again -- but it starts increasing back to 29.97 fps when the Ferengi Nog appears on-screen. The clip stays at 29.97 (at least, MPC-HC reports 29.97 for several minutes thereafter).

https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjl_b...TrpuU?e=5ETmw2

I have thought that this could be somehow related to the credits, but there's a later shot on DS9 itself that stays at 29.97 fps well after the credits are finished. I can clip that as well if people want to see it, but this seemed good for now.

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JoelHruska Registered User Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 77	Per request, here are clips of specific scenes from Sacrifice of Angels from a VOB of the DVD. Clip explanations below. Clips are cut to 10 seconds or less per Manono's advice, unless it made no sense to split the scene at that point. Contiguous versions of two longer scenes (FFE = First Fleet Engagement, SFE = Second Fleet Engagement) are available below. I tried to start each clip with a few frames of padding on each side. In most of the clips below, there are specific places I'm hoping to achieve better antialiasing results. I used QTGMC partly because it fixed some of the problems I'm going to describe below and would like to duplicate this (or improve upon the initial repair). I'm going to describe some specific problem spots I saw in the 23.976 version of this footage because it's all I have for reference and because I was attempting to repair very specific things in certain cases. Apparently, I cannot offer a direct download link via SendSpace unless I have a premium account. A link to 13 of the 14 uploaded clips is here: https://fs01u.sendspace.com/upload?S...TINATION_DIR=5 You do not need to download "FirstFleeetEngagement-Complete" if you download "FirstFleetEngagement-Short1" through "Short3." The complete version of "SecondFleetEngagement" is only available on OneDrive below due to size restrictions. Files are abbreviated as "FFE" and "SFE" on OneDrive after I realized the file names were too long for easy display. The 14th file is "SFE-Complete" and it does contain a few scenes on the Defiant that are not embedded in SFE-1 -- SFE-5. Alternately, if you want individual file downloads, you can use the OneDrive links below: A link to the entire directory is here. https://1drv.ms/u/s!AphTLFRW13WMjk7i...dRO9I?e=3NcPQ3 Individual file links in-line below. Each individual file link will open a OneDrive link. OneDrive does not require you to have a login, and you can download by hitting the button in the upper-left-hand corner. FirstDefiantFlyby: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlmk...A7rPM?e=UFmhtT There's aliasing on both the Excelsior-class ships (inside the nacelles) and the Defiant's angle of attack in this scene is hard to fix. QTGMC against 23.976 fps did a very good job of resolving a troublesome flicker on the Defiant's left "shoulder" that gave me a lot of trouble, but I never had a great solution to the in-nacelle aliasing. Would like to nuke that from orbit. FirstDominionFleet: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlKd...fALn3?e=RgO5tL At the end of this clip there are three Jem'Hadar scarab fighters visible. All three have strong horizontal aliasing across their bottoms. I'd like to eliminate it as part of properly processing the scene. QTGMC using my repair script against a 23.976 MKV does a very good job of eliminating the horizontal lines. SecondDefiantFlyby: https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjleX...0nKcK?e=mzSZ13 This is one where I've had trouble with some scripts causing backwards movement in the small fighters that fly across the screen. The background ships are basically fine no matter what you run against them. First Fleet Engagement (FFE) 1-3 https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlTG...HFrqU?e=mDKlE4 https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlHg...l2aGB?e=dfREGR https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlYt...lENGV?e=yWZGR5 This scene hasn't been problematic, per se, but it's definitely one of the major CGI battle scenes of the episode, so it's included for those reasons. If you want to download the entire contiguous clip, you can do so here (100MB file). https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlpF...psSD_?e=gmrWr5 Second Fleet Engagement (SFE) 1- 5 https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjljS...ek-we?e=nswJKR https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlWM...I3x6M?e=DjUO8I https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlMe...v6E3y?e=mhfNsh https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlA2...H_ocz?e=YWsefX https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjk8D...98s-w?e=3ehQve The second full fleet engagement. Major things I'm hoping to fix include nacelle-aliasing and the very aliased lines across the bottom of the Miranda-class vessel's ventral saucer. (SFE-1). The other scenes of SFE have been pretty solid, but are included here for completeness' sake. The SFE clips 1-5 omit the Defiant scenes that take place in-between the CGI shots. The full file, available here: SendSpace is limited to 300MB, so if you want the full file, OneDrive is the only place to go. https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjlvP...w7gN7?e=qOAQeq Includes the Defiant interim scenes as well as the CGI scenes. Trivia: According to the VFX team that built the show, this was the most-detailed fleet battle they ever shot. They brought in tactical experts specifically to help them design the fight. SFE is the arguable high-water mark for DS9's entire seven-year run, so if there was one CGI scene to absolutely nail, this one would be it. Sisko-On-Defiant Finally, I've uploaded a clip that I thought might be useful for seeing how DS9 mixes and matches VFR content together. All frame rate references measured using MPC-HC. The frame rate when the DVD is played back begins at 29.97 fps, but starts dropping immediately. By the time the shot switches to Defiant, the frame rate is 23.976 fps again -- but it starts increasing back to 29.97 fps when the Ferengi Nog appears on-screen. The clip stays at 29.97 (at least, MPC-HC reports 29.97 for several minutes thereafter). https://1drv.ms/v/s!AphTLFRW13WMjl_b...TrpuU?e=5ETmw2 I have thought that this could be somehow related to the credits, but there's a later shot on DS9 itself that stays at 29.97 fps well after the credits are finished. I can clip that as well if people want to see it, but this seemed good for now. Last edited by JoelHruska; 24th May 2020 at 05:38.