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Old 16th March 2023, 05:38   #101  |  Link
benwaggoner
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Originally Posted by 102030 View Post
I still convert all movies with Xvid. I have the most experiences with this codec (13 years).
I really dislike h264 deblocking. The Xvid results are better for me than with x264.
You can always lower or turn off the in-loop deblocking filter in H.264; Gary Sullivan once told me that his biggest regret in H.264 was that the default loop filter strength was a little too high; -1,-1 is a better default. Even without it, High Profile will still outperform Xvid a lot due to better entropy coding, better adaptive quant signaling, multiple reference frames, hierarchical b-frames, and so on.

H.264 is definitely the first "after" codec in the before/after of codec evolution, with MPEG-4 pt 2 and VC-1 the last gasp of the classic 8x8 intra block IPB single forward reference no in-loop deblocking non-arithmetic entropy coding era. It was a huge break from from everything before, and HEVC and VVC are refinements and extensions of the H.264 model, based on fundamentally the same core.

Plus x264 is simply a much more psychovisually refined encoder than xvid, and it was more broadly used, both by hobbyists and for commercial use by companies who paid for improvements in it.
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