@gonca
I appreciate any help I am given (so thank you for trying to help) and I apologise if I did misinterpret your first post. However I am really stumped as to how you are getting to your assumptions.
There was no BD disk involved at all. The original source was always a DVD Disk. I can’t imagine why anyone would do BD --> DVD --> BD. I am trying to do DVD --> BD to fit DL DVD onto BD-5. For me x264 is a better way to backup DVD disks than using available MPEG-2 encoders.
But let’s forget all previous posts, as I’ve used 2 brand new sources…
Peace.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdobbs
@gkn
The reason the movie is encoding for movie-only (even with FORCE_NOENCODE set) is because the original is MPEG-2 and you're probably outputting to an AVCHD format. That's the default when outputtin to a DVD+-R (for greater compatibility). MPEG-2 isn't legal for AVCHD, it only accepts AVC, so it has to be converted. MPEG-2 is, however, legal for standard Blu-Ray (which is what you have to use for a full backup).
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@jdobbs
Thanks for replying but I don’t think that is what is causing this problem. I have also tried by Un-Checking the “Strict AVCHD for BD-5/9 Movie-Only” with the same result (or am I missing something else on letting BD-RB create a Blu-Ray structure in Movie-Only mode?).
However I think I may have found what is causing this issue:
It seems that BD-RB is forcing conversion if it detects that the target size is either BD-5 or BD-9 in “Movie-Only” mode. If Target Size is BD-25 the re-encode is skipped.
From
HIDDENOPTS.TXT:
FORCE_NOENCODE=n n = 0/1 - if set to 1,
BD-RB will always use original video (sizing will not be checked)
Because I thought “sizing will not be checked” I did not think Target Size would have any influence. This is confirmed as BD-RB always skips the re-encode if “Full-Backup” mode is selected irrespective of Target Size.
I’ve recreated this issue using two new sources: A Blu-Ray disk and a different DVD disk.
Original Source --> Blu-Ray Disk (Sanctum) (Format = AVC)
Options]
VERSION=0.42.0.4
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
TARGET_SIZE=4469
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\VID_TEMP\BDRB\
SOURCE_PATH=G:\
Movie-Only (target size BD-5):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[11:27:55] Source: SANCTUM_00000
- Input BD size: 12.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:47.000]
-
Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:27:55] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:27:55] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11:27:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:32:17] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 156*648 frames
- Bitrate: 3*697 Kbs
- [11:32:17]
Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
[11:32:58]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
Movie-Only (target size BD-9; everything else exactly the same):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[11:33:11] Source: SANCTUM_00000
- Input BD size: 12.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:47.000]
-
Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:33:13] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:33:13] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11:33:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:37:35] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 24.000fps, 156*648 frames
- Bitrate: 7*955 Kbs
- [11:37:35]
Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
[11:37:41]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
Movie-Only (target size BD-25; everything else exactly the same):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[11:54:17] Source: SANCTUM_00000
- Input BD size: 12.26 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:48:47.000]
-
Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[11:54:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [11:54:19] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [11:54:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [11:58:40] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [11:58:40]
Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [11:58:40] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[11:58:40]PHASE ONE complete
[11:58:40]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [11:58:40] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:01:03] - Aborted per user request
Original Source --> DVD Disk (Blitz) (Format = mpeg-2)
----------------------
[12:06:55] Importing DVD: BLITZ
- Collecting audio/video/subtitle streams...
- Converting subtitles to BD format...
- Creating BD from audio/video/subtitles...
[12:14:47] DVD import completed successfully.
[Options]
VERSION=0.42.0.4
FORCE_NOENCODE=1
MODE=2
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
TARGET_SIZE=4469
[Paths]
WORKING_PATH=C:\VID_TEMP\BDRB\
SOURCE_PATH=C:\VID_TEMP\BDRB\IMPORTS\BLITZ\
Movie-Only (target size BD-5):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[12:15:21] Source: BLITZ_00000
- Input BD size: 4.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:29.344]
-
Target BD size: 4.36 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:15:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:15:22] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [12:15:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:19:33] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 140*234 frames
- Bitrate: 5*482 Kbs
- [12:19:33]
Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
[12:19:38]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
Movie-Only (target size BD-9; everything else exactly the same):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[12:20:18] Source: BLITZ_00000
- Input BD size: 4.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:29.344]
-
Target BD size: 7.84 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:20:20] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:20:20] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [12:20:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:24:25] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x576
- Rate/Length: 25.000fps, 140*234 frames
- Bitrate: 10*435 Kbs
- [12:24:25]
Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
[12:24:34]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
Movie-Only (target size BD-25; everything else exactly the same):
----------------------
[12/15/12] BD Rebuilder v0.42.04 (beta)
[12:25:16] Source: BLITZ_00000
- Input BD size: 4.53 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:33:29.344]
-
Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
-
MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:25:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [12:25:18] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
- [12:25:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [12:29:30] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- [12:29:30]
Keeping original video (no reencode)
- [12:29:30] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (und): Keeping original audio
- Track 4353 (und): Keeping original audio
[12:29:30]PHASE ONE complete
[12:29:30]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [12:29:30] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[12:30:08] - Aborted per user request
There is definitely inconsistent behaviour when using Movie-Only mode and the FORCE_NOENCODE option is set.