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Old 17th October 2018, 08:19   #1145  |  Link
dapperdan
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Originally Posted by benwaggoner View Post

And things have to get LOTS faster to do the psychovisual and rate control tuning to get AV1 into something that can be practically compared to other encoders/bitstreams. Quality won't matter within an order of magnitude of the current speeds. It's not like anyone is actually delivering in volume 1080p encoded with --preset placebo either!
Netflix already use VP9, which is lacking good rate control and psychovisual tuning, but still delivering higher quality (VMAF) at lower bitrates than their other streams (according to their blog posts) and they have said they'd roll out AV1 when it was within 4-10x slower than VP9. Presumably based on getting higher quality that makes that tradeoff worthwhile for them at that point.
Bitmovin claims their latest encoder release is twice as fast as stock AV1 and 20x slower than VP9 so things don't seem to be that far off AV1 being delivered on a large scale.

They also have the extra bonus of being able to encode their in-house stuff without film grain and add it later, a feature they were keen to have added to AV1.

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