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Old 24th May 2018, 22:38   #6155  |  Link
Sagittaire
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Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post
"There are no such things" can you elaborate a bit on that?

I have both, the 7960X and 1950X.
Even if I had only the 7900X, I'd still use it for HEVC encoding rather than the 1950X due to speed and higher efficiency.
Annand tech bench is simply stupid and ridiculous test:
- 4K HEVC source at very high bitrate (~140 fps at 100% CPU charge just for stream decoding on i9-7900X and 1950X ... and Intel is really better than AMD for that)
- Really high speed setting (40 fps and more for 4K x265 encoding ... !!!?).

Certainely that Handbrake use high CPU charge just for 4K HEVC decoding source.

I make more serious bench here with 4K source and x265 encoding with preset "medium":
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=174393

Code:
|----------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------|
| CPU            |   x264  |   x265  |   LAVC  |  auto   |   MMX2  |   SSE   |   SSE2  |   SSE3  |  SSE4   |   AVX   |   AVX2  |   All  |
|----------------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------|
|  1950X         |  37.59  |   6.50  |    136  |   4.65  |   2.02  |   2.00  |   2.95  |   3.10  |   3.89  |   4.10  |   4.26  |   N/A  |
|  Core i9-7900X |  29.37  |   5.47  |    145  |   4.38  |   1.35  |   1.35  |   2.14  |   2.32  |   3.49  |   3.50  |   4.30  |   N/A  |
For real x265 encoding (less than 5% on CPU charge for source decoding):
- 1950x@stock 16C/32T is faster than i9-7900x@stock 10C/20T for x265 4K encoding.
- SSE4 at same speed and same core number is on par for Intel and AMD for x265 encoding.
- AVX2 produce 15-20% speed improuvement for Intel vs AMD in x265 encoding (on all modern CPU)
- AVX2 is not really efficient for x264: at same speed and same core number Intel and AMD are on par for speed encoding.
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1- Ateme AVC or x264
2- VP7 or RV10 only for anime
3- XviD, DivX or WMV9

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