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Old 1st June 2014, 11:26   #4141  |  Link
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+ Google finds first "uber guides" outdated for years?
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Well, I wonder why it is so easy to prefer DirectShow. Either the tools default to it, or there are "uber best know-it-all-better guides" out there which recommend it?!

If the former, then I would recommend Zathor to think about altering MeGUI in a way that DirectShowSource is not preferred anymore. But since I know the File Indexer (which is now a lot more reliable with L-SMASH Works support), and never use don't-think-about-it features, I don't even get the idea of preferring DirectShow anymore, so I don't know how a first time user thinks, and why he would start to prefer the "wrong" way.
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Old 1st June 2014, 15:18   #4143  |  Link
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Well, I wonder why it is so easy to prefer DirectShow. Either the tools default to it, or there are "uber best know-it-all-better guides" out there which recommend it?!
I was thinking about an average user who would download Avisynth and start looking at the documentation. The first choice for "Media file filters" in Avisynth's help is AviSource, followed by DirectShowSource. Naturally, the user would assume that DSS is the right choice for a file that is not supported by AviSource.

You're probably right that most novice users start with "GUIs" and use the default options (which also leads to DSS as the preferred source filter - at least in Megui).

The bottom line is that one has to dig quite a bit into DOOM9's forums in order to figure out that there are better alternatives to DSS.

As for Megui - I don't know why DSS is the preferred source filter, I guess the people who maintain the software have their reasons.

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Average users need one-click GUIs. They would never start reading the AviSynth documentation.
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[...]I would recommend Zathor to think about altering MeGUI in a way that DirectShowSource is not preferred anymore. But since I know the File Indexer (which is now a lot more reliable with L-SMASH Works support), and never use don't-think-about-it features, I don't even get the idea of preferring DirectShow anymore, so I don't know how a first time user thinks, and why he would start to prefer the "wrong" way.
In MeGUI's OneClick tool directshow is not used at all. There is only AviSource and this has the lowest priority by default and will only be used when the others cannot be used.

In the AVS Script Creator tool there is this text when opening a non indexed file:
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Do you want to open this file with
- One Click Encoder (fully automated, easy to use) or
- File Indexer (manual, advanced) or
- DirectShowSource (manual, expert, may cause problems)?
Depending on the selection the file will be processed with the other tools.

What else should I do? Disable DirectShowSource completly?

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What else should I do?
IHMO, leave it as is. The warning is a quite reasonable compromise. Anyway, MeGUI is not the only context in which new users run into issues with DirectShowSource(). I view it as something of a rite of passage for learning about desktop multimedia.
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I am sorry to raise trouble with old habits of other people and little own knowledge about MeGUI... Obviously, you and your tool are not the reason for issues based on times when there were no better solutions.
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@LigH....before your first time mention of L-Smash as alternative above, I see you asked Zathor to take a look at it a year ago , in this post : Click Here

So, it's not like it's been around for some time. I also notice that Megui, by default has the update for L-Smash disabled (development build). So, it's natural for people not to LOOK for it as an alternative. The only reason I've been using ffds, since 2009, was the tutorial by Jamos, in this thread. : Click Here

If it's that superior, I'd appreciate some info on how to use it with Megui. I do BD, 2 pass encodes.
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Well, yes, those are the details about MeGUI I don't realize anymore since I always use MeGUI so differently compared to a user with a less specific point of view. I may be a quite un-average user. So I should not try so often to assume about the averages...
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@LigH....before your first time mention of L-Smash as alternative above, I see you asked Zathor to take a look at it a year ago , in this post : Click Here

So, it's not like it's been around for some time. I also notice that Megui, by default has the update for L-Smash disabled (development build). So, it's natural for people not to LOOK for it as an alternative.
Yes, L-Smash has been introduced in MeGUI round about half a year ago. And it is not disabled - the package will be only downloaded when needed and therefore automatically enabled. But FFMS2 is there for years (as this dialogue to not use DirectShowSource).

In the end the only thing which matters is if you have found your use case and the results are fine for you. So stick with your process - if you want to change something try the OneClick tool.
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Ok, I've started to play with x265, but I'm running into an error when trying it out in x265.

When x265 is selected, hitting "Auto-Encode" brings up the error:

"First Pass Encoding is not supported for Automatic Encoding as no Output is generated.
Please choose another encoding mode."

But I'm not not trying to encode with multiple passes. And in the Settings, under "Automated Encoding", I can not choose anything less than 2 passes. I think this is what is causing the problem and I don't know how to eliminate it.

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MeGUI calculates it in this way:
AR Error = 1-((Input Width*Output Height)/(Output Width*Input Height)) (which is the same as in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=130085#post130085)
Which is in this case:
AR Error = 1-((714*480)/(704*480))=1-(714/704)=-0,014204545454545=-1,4204545454545%

You and Yoda are calculating it:
AR Error = 1-((704*480)/(714*480))=1-(704/714)=0,0140056022408964=1,40056022408964%

Which one is correct?

You can say (with simplified values) that 100 is 33% larger than 75 - and 75 is 25% smaller than 100. So both are showing a correct aspect ratio error but the point of view is different. Staxrip for example is using the same as MeGUI. Which is the most common point of view? I can change it if required.
It should match video_size_calc-1_0_1 and gordianknot, or, rather, has been done for.
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I have updated the stable build to 2500 on the update server. In order to save bandwidth during this initial change to the new update method only a few basic packages have been updated yet (3,5MB instead of the whole 35MB). In a few weeks I will update everything else including sourceforge.
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2502 [Update]               fixed freeze when adding new custom update servers. Bug #769
2501 [Update]               removed update server megui.xvidvideo.ru for the stable branch as it cannot be synced anymore
     [Update]               increased update data refresh interval to 10 days for the stable server
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MeGUI is unable to load warpsharp.(was able before I updated megui and its packages)



Code:
[Information] Log
-[Information] Versions
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] MeGUI: 2505
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition x64 SP1 (6.1.65536.7601)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] .Net Framework: 2.0.50727.5420
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] .Net Framework: 4.0.0.0
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] AviSynth: 2.6.0.4 (18-09-2013)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] AvisynthWrapper:  (02-01-2009)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] Haali Matroska Splitter: 1.13.138.14 (14-04-2013)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] Haali DSS2:  (14-04-2013)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] ICSharpCode.SharpZipLib: 0.85.5.452 (07-08-2008)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] LinqBridge: 1.0.0.0 (27-05-2009)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] MediaInfo: 0.7.69.0 (24-04-2014)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] MediaInfoWrapper: 0.7.61.0 (06-01-2013)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] MessageBoxExLib: 1.0.2218.28317 (19-12-2008)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] SevenZipSharp: 0.64.3890.29348 (02-01-2011)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:30 PM] 7z: 9.20 (18-11-2010)
-[Information] Update detection
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:31 PM] Automatic update is disabled
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:31 PM] Using cached update config and server: http://megui.xvidvideo.ru/auto/
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:31 PM] There is 1 package which can be updated: x264
-[Information] FileIndexer
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:50 PM] MediaInfo
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:50 PM] File: G:\Movies\HBPVR\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.mts
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: BDAV
----[Information] FormatString: BDAV
----[Information] FileSize: 536739840
----[Information] PlayTime: 00:33:51.061
---[Information] Video
----[Information] ID: 1120
----[Information] StreamOrder: 3-0
----[Information] Width: 720
----[Information] Height: 576
----[Information] FrameCount: 50784
----[Information] FrameRate: 25.000
----[Information] FrameRateOriginal: 
----[Information] FrameRateMode: 
----[Information] ScanType: Interlaced
----[Information] Codec: AVC
----[Information] CodecString: AVC
----[Information] Bits Depth: 8
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] AspectRatio: 1.364
----[Information] AspectRatioString: 4:3
----[Information] Delay: 51809077.267
----[Information] Title: 
----[Information] Language: 
----[Information] LanguageString: 
----[Information] Default: 
----[Information] DefaultString: 
----[Information] Forced: 
----[Information] ForcedString: 
---[Information] Audio
----[Information] ID: 1121
----[Information] StreamOrder: 3-1
----[Information] Format: AAC
----[Information] FormatProfile: HE-AACv2 / HE-AAC / LC
----[Information] FormatSettingsSBR: Yes (Implicit)
----[Information] FormatSettingsPS: Yes (Implicit)
----[Information] SamplingRate: 48000 / 48000 / 24000
----[Information] SamplingRateString: 48.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
----[Information] Channels: 2 / 1 / 1
----[Information] ChannelsString: 2 channels / 1 channel / 1 channel
----[Information] ChannelPositionsString2: 1/0/0
----[Information] BitRateMode: VBR
----[Information] Delay: 51807757.444
----[Information] Title: 
----[Information] Language: fa
----[Information] LanguageString: Persian
----[Information] Default: 
----[Information] DefaultString: 
----[Information] Forced: 
----[Information] ForcedString: 
-[Information] Log for job1 (idx, IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.mts -> IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.dga)
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Started handling job
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Preprocessing
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Job commandline: "C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\tools\dgavcindex\dgavcindex.exe" -i "G:\Movies\HBPVR\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.mts" -o "F:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Videos\New folder\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.dga" -e -h -a
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Process started
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Standard output stream
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:40:58 PM] Standard error stream
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
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---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] Warning: no active SPS, timing SEI cannot be parsed
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] MediaInfo
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:19 PM] File: F:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Videos\New folder\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.dga
---[Information] Indexed File: G:\Movies\HBPVR\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.mts
---[Information] General
----[Information] Format: BDAV
----[Information] FormatString: BDAV
----[Information] FileSize: 536739840
----[Information] PlayTime: 00:33:51.061
---[Information] Video
----[Information] ID: 1120
----[Information] StreamOrder: 3-0
----[Information] Width: 720
----[Information] Height: 576
----[Information] FrameCount: 50784
----[Information] FrameRate: 25.000
----[Information] FrameRateOriginal: 
----[Information] FrameRateMode: 
----[Information] ScanType: Interlaced
----[Information] Codec: AVC
----[Information] CodecString: AVC
----[Information] Bits Depth: 8
----[Information] Format: AVC
----[Information] AspectRatio: 1.364
----[Information] AspectRatioString: 4:3
----[Information] Delay: 51809077.267
----[Information] Title: 
----[Information] Language: 
----[Information] LanguageString: 
----[Information] Default: 
----[Information] DefaultString: 
----[Information] Forced: 
----[Information] ForcedString: 
---[Information] Audio
----[Information] ID: 1121
----[Information] StreamOrder: 3-1
----[Information] Format: AAC
----[Information] FormatProfile: HE-AACv2 / HE-AAC / LC
----[Information] FormatSettingsSBR: Yes (Implicit)
----[Information] FormatSettingsPS: Yes (Implicit)
----[Information] SamplingRate: 48000 / 48000 / 24000
----[Information] SamplingRateString: 48.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
----[Information] Channels: 2 / 1 / 1
----[Information] ChannelsString: 2 channels / 1 channel / 1 channel
----[Information] ChannelPositionsString2: 1/0/0
----[Information] BitRateMode: VBR
----[Information] Delay: 51807757.444
----[Information] Title: 
----[Information] Language: fa
----[Information] LanguageString: Persian
----[Information] Default: 
----[Information] DefaultString: 
----[Information] Forced: 
----[Information] ForcedString: 
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:20 PM] Postprocessing
---[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:26 PM] Deleting intermediate files
----[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:26 PM] Successfully deleted G:\Movies\HBPVR\IRIB_NAMAYESH-05232014-1316.log
--[Information] [6/27/2014 6:41:26 PM] Job completed
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Did you check that warpsharp.dll actually exists in the directory C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\tools\avisynth_plugins\?
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Did you check that warpsharp.dll actually exists in the directory C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\tools\avisynth_plugins\?
Did you read my post completely ?
MeGUI was able to load warpsharp before I update it , this means that warpsharp.dll was in that directory(and still is).
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Maybe the install changed your configured plugin directory.
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Maybe the install changed your configured plugin directory.
if you mean update , no
it has nothing to do with plugins directories.
I loaded it twice from different directories but still it doesnt work.

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MeGUI does not change anything outside of its own directory.

What happens when you open the AVS script outside of MeGUI? E.g. in MPC-HC or VirtualDub? If you get the same message it has nothing to do with MeGUI.
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