Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion.

Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules.

 

Go Back   Doom9's Forum > Hardware & Software > Software players

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 15th May 2019, 00:14   #6261  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirMaster View Post
Does anyone know if it's somehow possible to use the dual audio output in MPC-BE to send Atmos/DTS:X bitstream out one output and a simple stereo downmix or just the L+R channels as a 2 channel PCM or even 2 channel analog out the other output?
Dual audio output possible only the same type - or Bitstream or PCM.
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15th May 2019, 00:14   #6262  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
Quote:
Originally Posted by jespermart View Post
Would it be possible to add support for BD Menu to Mpc-Be just like River are capeble of using libbluray??
If somebody implement it - possible
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 13:11   #6263  |  Link
Grimsdyke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Hannover, Germany
Posts: 155
@devs. Since the volume is so low on my system's DirectSound-HDMI I recently switched to MPC audio renderer and the difference is really huge but unfortunately there are also now drop outs, especially on 4K files.
I am not sure if this is related to the recent fixes you applied based on peter0815x reports or maybe tuesday's Windows patches creates problems but this did not occured until Sunday !!
Grimsdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 13:18   #6264  |  Link
stax76
Registered Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,427
I've heard this drop out issue in mpc too in following clip:

http://tvdl.zdf.de/none/zdf/diverse/...k_p1112v12.mp4
stax76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 13:22   #6265  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimsdyke View Post
@devs. Since the volume is so low on my system's DirectSound-HDMI I recently switched to MPC audio renderer and the difference is really huge but unfortunately there are also now drop outs, especially on 4K files.
I am not sure if this is related to the recent fixes you applied based on peter0815x reports or maybe tuesday's Windows patches creates problems but this did not occured until Sunday !!
Test on old version
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 13:26   #6266  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
If somebody have audio drop on latest SVN but don't have on oldest version - upload problem files. Also show timing where is drop.
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215

Last edited by Aleksoid1978; 16th May 2019 at 13:30.
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 18:14   #6267  |  Link
peter0815x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by stax76 View Post
I've heard this drop out issue in mpc too in following clip:

http://tvdl.zdf.de/none/zdf/diverse/...k_p1112v12.mp4
i tested the file with svn (4545) and wasapi output.
plays without problems for me.

(interesting video)

Last edited by peter0815x; 16th May 2019 at 18:51.
peter0815x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 18:48   #6268  |  Link
stax76
Registered Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,427
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter0815x View Post
i tested the file with svn (4545) and wasapi output.
plays without problems for me.
I get the first drop out at 00:00:07

Using default settings, so 'DirectSound System Default' audio renderer.

mpc version/built is 1.5.3 (build 4488)

My primary player is of course mpv...
stax76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16th May 2019, 18:56   #6269  |  Link
stax76
Registered Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,427
same issue with b4545
stax76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th May 2019, 01:19   #6270  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
Quote:
Originally Posted by stax76 View Post
I get the first drop out at 00:00:07
Test in MPC-HC ?
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215

Last edited by Aleksoid1978; 17th May 2019 at 01:34.
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th May 2019, 01:40   #6271  |  Link
stax76
Registered Lurker
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 6,427
I tested 4488 and 4545 and both have dropouts, mpc-hc had the first dropout at 01:00
stax76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th May 2019, 02:04   #6272  |  Link
Aleksoid1978
Registered User
 
Aleksoid1978's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Russia, Vladivostok
Posts: 2,375
stax76
I test with DS and WASAPI output - there is no drops. See CPU/GPU load when drops is happened.
__________________
I7 2600K@4.2 /Asrock P67 Extreme4 Gen 3 /Kingston HyperX 8Gb 1866 (4x2) Kit /OCZ Vertex 3 256Gb /Gigabyte GTX 960 /BenQ EW2430 /LG 47LM620T /Yamaha RX-V471 + NS-555 + NS-C444 + NS-333 + YST-SW215
Aleksoid1978 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17th May 2019, 12:34   #6273  |  Link
Grimsdyke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Hannover, Germany
Posts: 155
I randomly picked 4540 and with this version the problem was even worse - dozens of drop outs/glitches per minute !! So something must have happened with Tuesday's patches. Something was changed that my setup can't handle
properly or maybe even broken.
The only way to at least bypass this issue (for now) that I found is to deactivate 'dual-audio-out' and use the switch within mpc audio renderer to use the analogue-outs when I need them.
Grimsdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th May 2019, 04:05   #6274  |  Link
Megalith
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 115
Is there a way to get ASIO output in MPC-BE?
Megalith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th May 2019, 05:45   #6275  |  Link
peter0815x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megalith View Post
Is there a way to get ASIO output in MPC-BE?

here is a asio plugin
http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/20...asio-renderer/

(for videos mpc render with wasapi is the better choice)
peter0815x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th May 2019, 23:30   #6276  |  Link
Megalith
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 115
Quote:
Originally Posted by peter0815x View Post
here is a asio plugin
http://blog.familie-buchberger.at/20...asio-renderer/

(for videos mpc render with wasapi is the better choice)
Thanks, it seems to be working well. But why is WASAPI the "better choice"?
Megalith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2019, 01:26   #6277  |  Link
nevcairiel
Registered Developer
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Hamburg/Germany
Posts: 9,943
The only reason to ever use ASIO is if your audio device supports nothing else properly (like some "pro" audio devices do), or has actual broken support for WASAPI. Ultimately bitexact audio is bitexact audio, and the API used doesn't make a huge difference.
There is a few other reasons, but none that apply to video playback.

Even more so, there is no reason to force usage of ASIO if the player has no first-class ASIO support in the first place, you just know its going to be worse then.
__________________
LAV Filters - open source ffmpeg based media splitter and decoders

Last edited by nevcairiel; 19th May 2019 at 01:55.
nevcairiel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th May 2019, 02:22   #6278  |  Link
peter0815x
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megalith View Post
Thanks, it seems to be working well. But why is WASAPI the "better choice"?
with the asio plugin you can get strange noises when you seek a video or when you go from dvd menu to the movie.

seems the asio plugin is playing some noises when the audio stream is interrupted.
may be a bug in asio plugin (or unoptimized plugin)
peter0815x is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th May 2019, 16:25   #6279  |  Link
Manni
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 756
MPC-BE is giving me problems recently, I don't know if it's due to a recent windows update (I'm on Windows 10 Pro x64 build 1809).

It often hangs or exists when I start playing a UHD BD Folder.

When I play the same title with MPC-HC (I re-installed it to debug), I have no problem.

I tried to completely uninstall MPC-BE, delete the folder and registry and use all default settings (no madVR, nothing, just default internal filters), the issues are still there.

It seems to be worse when MyMovies calls MPC-BE from MCE, but I have issues even when I play the title standalone.

Some titles don't play or only play for a few seconds (The Meg). Other play fine.

Really weird. I never experienced anything like that. I tried to revert to earlier versions, same issues.

I tried different drivers for my 1080ti, 385.28 which usually works fine with everything up to the latest 430.64, still have issues.

Anyone has any idea?

I know that not everyone experiences this, but I've never had a situation like this before.

MPC-BE has always worked flawlessly on my rig, and it's been my player of choice for years.
__________________
Win10 Pro x64 b1909 MCE
i7 3770K@4.0Ghz 16Gb@2.18Ghz EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 11Gb@2GHz RGB Full 8bits
madVR/jRiver/MyMovies V5.25/CMC V3.2
Denon X8500H>madVR Envy Extreme>HD Fury Maestro>JVC RS2000
Manni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th May 2019, 17:03   #6280  |  Link
chros
Registered User
 
chros's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,645
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manni View Post
It often hangs or exists when I start playing a UHD BD Folder.
What does this mean exactly? How do you start it? Via File -> Open?
And which MPC-BE version? Latest stable?
__________________
Ryzen 5 2600,Asus Prime b450-Plus,16GB,MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6GB(v385.28),Win10 LTSB 1607,MPC-BEx64+LAV+MadVR,Yamaha RX-A870,LG OLED65B8(2160p@23/24/25/29/30/50/59/60Hz)
chros is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 15:03.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.