AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version

[oldpainlesskodi]

Ok, good to know it's not just me then...as I mentioned, on my Nvidia setup, with the latest version of windows, wddm 2.5 is ok, 2.6 is not (excluding Hunn's work around) .

[TK423]

Nvidia user here. Haven't updated my drivers since 417.71.

In order to fix the HDR issues with the 417.71 drivers I...

• Used 7-Zip to extract the installer files (417.71-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe) to a folder
• Deleted the HDAudio folder from the extracted 417.71 installer files
• Replaced the deleted HDAudio folder with the one extracted from the 388.59 installer files.

This allowed me to install the 417.71 drivers while retaining HDR ability with MPC-HC and MadVR.

It's been about five months since I've updated my GPU drivers and since I also use my PC for gaming, I'd like to update them.

Does anyone know if the aforementioned fix will work with the newest 430.86 drivers - deleting the HDAudio folder and replacing it with the one from the 388.59 drivers?

[hotripper]

Why wouldnt it?

But may be unnecessary as I believe the HDR nit/color issue was confirmed as fixed a couple of drivers ago.

[SoySauceWDF]

Still getting stuttering on an RTX 2080ti, latest drivers, applied the nvidia profiles. Audio seems to be out of sync now as well

[el Filou]

(I know this thread is about GPUs and madVR, but as the graphics drivers also include the audio drivers and a lot of HTPC users have AVRs I figured it's still on-topic. If not, I apologize)

Has anyone here using an NVIDIA and HDMI out to an AVR noticed that it does a 'pop' sound when changing refresh rates?
I am on Windows 1809 (but the problem was already there on 1803), 1050 Ti with driver 430.64, standard driver timings no custom mode, the AVR is 10-year old and its firmware and config haven't changed in ages so I'm pretty sure it's not the cause.
Ever since I bought the card two years ago I never heard anything when changing refresh rates, but for a few weeks now I've noticed that I hear a pop sound from the AVR, like the sound old analogue PC sound cards made when initializing their driver at boot.

At first I thought it was due to an NVIDIA audio driver problem so I tried older drivers but it didn't fix it. I tried rolling back Windows updates but it didn't fix it either. Now after having search all over the web and not finding any forum thread on this issue I'm out of ideas.

This is getting on my nerves because I frequently change display refresh rate between 50 Hz and 24 Hz and I can't stand hearing that pop sound which wasn't there before.
Something weird I've verified: it doesn't happen if the sound format set in Windows control panel (for shared mode) is higher than 48 kHz. Anything 48 kHz and below, be it 16 or 24 bit, gives a pop sound on refresh rate change, and anything higher than 48 kHz doesn't.
I don't want to use 96 kHz because it gives lower quality with my hardware and is more processor-intensive with ReClock.

Anyone has any idea what could be causing this, or has noticed the same thing? If yes, was it just after a driver update?
Thanks.

[Manni]

Did you try bitstreaming? In my setup I don't get any pop.

[hotripper]

Originally Posted by el Filou

Anyone has any idea what could be causing this, or has noticed the same thing? If yes, was it just after a driver update?
Thanks.

The only thing that ever gives me a pop is Dirt Rally and DR2.

[hotripper]

Originally Posted by SoySauceWDF

Still getting stuttering on an RTX 2080ti, latest drivers, applied the nvidia profiles. Audio seems to be out of sync now as well

Stuttering in what? Madvr? MPC? Games? Everything video?

Welcome to RTX. Youre not alone. MAdvr in particular and MPC-HC give many of us heartaches.

Try CUVDA for MPC custom presenter, try copy-back for Madvr and set frames in advance to 1 in madvr settings. This has worked for me for 2 months now. Ive just stopped caring tbh

[SamuriHL]

Ok, well, I now know what a potential cause of the stuttering is for RTX users because after a clean install of windows (don't ask....seriously, I'm beyond livid right now with my new machine and lost everything due to a massive SSD crash) I now suffer from it, too. I'm fairly certain it comes down to DCH vs standard drivers. I will test this theory tomorrow and nuke the DCH driver and replace it with the standard and see if the stuttering issue goes away. Note that I configured everything the way I had it before the crash and am getting the stuttering issue. No reported drops in madvr and I'm jamming around 24ms for a UHD with HDR tone mapping on my 2070. Yea, this is fun. LOL

[ryrynz]

Well if it helps, if you do find the cause, you potentially help a lot of people.. Fingers crossed.

[SamuriHL]

That was my thought too. Believe me I'll be all over it today. I'll post what I find as soon as I find it.

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[el Filou]

Originally Posted by Manni

Did you try bitstreaming? In my setup I don't get any pop.

Bitstreaming or decoding doesn't change the issue because the popping sound happens on refresh rate change, even in Windows when I'm not playing any media. It's like the NVIDIA disables the audio output for a very short time when changing the display refresh rate and enables it again right after. I also didn't get any pop before and I can't pinpoint what exact change is causing this.

[huhn]

i have this with analogue audio too my guess is a new thing with newer windows versions.

[el Filou]

Oh my. Thanks for confirming though.
And this also happens if you change refresh rates in rapid succession, like less than 10 seconds?
I know that now the NVIDIA audio driver forcefully closes the HDMI audio stream after 10 seconds of no sound to save power but I've edited the registry to fix this, so it isn't the cause.

[SamuriHL]

Well it's not going to f***ing happen any time soon as my system crashed again overnight and won't boot anymore. The brand new 970 pro appears to have completely f***ing died and I'm so far beside myself given what I paid for it it's not even funny. All the work I spent last night rebuilding the goddamn thing is gone again. WTF Samsung!

[huhn]

Originally Posted by el Filou

Oh my. Thanks for confirming though.
And this also happens if you change refresh rates in rapid succession, like less than 10 seconds?
I know that now the NVIDIA audio driver forcefully closes the HDMI audio stream after 10 seconds of no sound to save power but I've edited the registry to fix this, so it isn't the cause.

i don't have the issue anymore i don't run new windows version at the moment.

i personally would just ignore this "issue" an audio pop with an resync is sadly relative normal with all kinds of devices.

i'm using an bad expensive PCIe sound card not an good realtek onboard soundcard and this can easily the reason for me. can't wait for my ryzen with proper onboard soundcard...

[gonca]

Originally Posted by SamuriHL

Well it's not going to f***ing happen any time soon as my system crashed again overnight and won't boot anymore. The brand new 970 pro appears to have completely f***ing died and I'm so far beside myself given what I paid for it it's not even funny. All the work I spent last night rebuilding the goddamn thing is gone again. WTF Samsung!

What MoBO do you have?
Never had a Samsung SSD (or NVME) just die
Did you try unplugging the power supply from the wall for a minute?
Power supply still good?

[SamuriHL]

Yea, it's not the SSD. It's a much more complicated problem, unfortunately, which may end up ultimately coming down to my RTX 2070. I spent too much time this morning debugging the issue already so I have to set it aside til tonight. The issue is more bizarre than anything I've ever seen on a PC, though, which troubles me as everything is brand new within the last 45-60 days. The SSD, however, is not the issue and has been ruled out.

[hotripper]

Originally Posted by el Filou

Oh my. Thanks for confirming though.
And this also happens if you change refresh rates in rapid succession, like less than 10 seconds?
I know that now the NVIDIA audio driver forcefully closes the HDMI audio stream after 10 seconds of no sound to save power but I've edited the registry to fix this, so it isn't the cause.

pLE4ASE tell me wherein regedit and how u did this I am interested!

[el Filou]

@hotripper

1. Device Manager: open the sound controller device properties => Details => copy the 'Driver key' property
2. Regedit: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\<********paste Driver key here********>\PowerSettings => change the PerformanceIdleTime key to 00 00 00 00

(there's also a ConservationIdleTime key if you want a different timeout for when a laptop is on battery)

source: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...power-settings

Disclaimer: this may make your AVR consume more power when no audio is played, depending on its design