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Old 10th November 2020, 03:47   #30181  |  Link
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I also use a GTX1660 Ti with a pretty much default BRDREBUILDER.INI, no hiddenopts added.
Graphics driver might not be the most current, I'm on 451.48

I haven't done many 1080p disks yet, but on the finished ones (nvencc, Highest quality) I didn't notice any pixelation, at least not in the main movie.
So, what do CraigWally and I have in common with our setups? It seems no one else but us experience this.

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Operating System: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)
Language: Swedish (Regional Setting: Swedish)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz (12 Cores)
RAM: 32768MB
GFX0: Intel UHD Graphics 630 128MB
GFX1: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 8GB
BD Writer: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-S09 (Primary)
BD Writer: ASUS BW-16D1HT (LibreDrive)
TV: Samsung F9005 (with SEK-3005 addon)
UHD Bluray: Samsung UBD-K8500
HD Bluray/Console: Playstation 3
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Old 10th November 2020, 09:20   #30182  |  Link
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According to Table 1 NVIDIA dropped 'H.264 field encoding' for Turing and Ampere GPUs.
https://docs.nvidia.com/video-techno...nc-performance

Blu-ray compliance requests 'interlaced' for 25 and 29.97 fps for any resolution. Fake-interlaced is not always possible.
Confused ........
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Old 10th November 2020, 10:32   #30183  |  Link
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According to Table 1 NVIDIA dropped 'H.264 field encoding' for Turing and Ampere GPUs.
https://docs.nvidia.com/video-techno...nc-performance

Blu-ray compliance requests 'interlaced' for 25 and 29.97 fps for any resolution. Fake-interlaced is not always possible.
Confused ........
So... if that could be the issue:
Is 'field encoding' support set in hardware or software? Meaning my 'old' driver might still support that feature?

@LowDead: What's your graphics driver version?
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Old 10th November 2020, 15:27   #30184  |  Link
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So... if that could be the issue:
Is 'field encoding' support set in hardware or software? Meaning my 'old' driver might still support that feature?

@LowDead: What's your graphics driver version?
Game driver Version 457.30 dated 11/09/2020

I also noted that one could switch to a "studio" driver from within the Geforce experience.. anyone have tried that driver?

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Old 11th November 2020, 01:02   #30185  |  Link
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According to Table 1 NVIDIA dropped 'H.264 field encoding' for Turing and Ampere GPUs.
https://docs.nvidia.com/video-techno...nc-performance

Blu-ray compliance requests 'interlaced' for 25 and 29.97 fps for any resolution. Fake-interlaced is not always possible.
Confused ........
Interesting. I hadn't noticed that before. I'm interested to know how it handles interlaced content with a Turing GPU. I'll run a couple tests on some interlaced content and see what happens.
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Old 12th November 2020, 15:56   #30186  |  Link
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Not so much a bug, but more of a question... I'm re-ripping all my movies (as Alt-Movie Only) due to a drive crash Because I have a mix of 4K TV's and 1080p's, I usually rip both discs of a movie. I ran into a Bluray that wont rip (looks like there is a scratch on the bottom). The 4k/UHD disc does rip. I'm just wondering if UHD Disc -> 1080p MKV would result in any quality difference compared to Bluray Disc -> 1080p MKV? (I'm just thinking about those "fake 4K" discs that are from a 2K source)... I mean I do get it will be better than not having the 1080p copy on my server, just curious if it might suffer.
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Old 12th November 2020, 23:13   #30187  |  Link
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Not so much a bug, but more of a question... I'm re-ripping all my movies (as Alt-Movie Only) due to a drive crash Because I have a mix of 4K TV's and 1080p's, I usually rip both discs of a movie. I ran into a Bluray that wont rip (looks like there is a scratch on the bottom). The 4k/UHD disc does rip. I'm just wondering if UHD Disc -> 1080p MKV would result in any quality difference compared to Bluray Disc -> 1080p MKV? (I'm just thinking about those "fake 4K" discs that are from a 2K source)... I mean I do get it will be better than not having the 1080p copy on my server, just curious if it might suffer.
It should be fine. But, if you do, you may want to consider performing some type of HDR->SDR conversion (assuming HDR on the original). I've seen reports that sometimes it can look "washed out" without it. I saw this AVISYNTH plugin, but haven't tried it myself.

But you may want to just try it without first -- as sometimes these reports are less than accurate (people sometimes have magic eyes and ears that see things that aren't really there).
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Old 13th November 2020, 00:01   #30188  |  Link
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You can always try DGTonemap, DGHDRtoSDR and DGPQtoHLG
http://rationalqm.us/mine.html
I believe they can run in software mode
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Old 13th November 2020, 00:08   #30189  |  Link
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You can always try DGTonemap, DGHDRtoSDR and DGPQtoHLG
http://rationalqm.us/mine.html
I believe they can run in software mode
I think they all require AVISYNTH+ (or at least the Wiki says so). But, again, I haven't tried them.
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Old 13th November 2020, 01:00   #30190  |  Link
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They do have a 32 bit version, but I'll check
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Old 13th November 2020, 02:33   #30191  |  Link
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DG tools use YUV420P16 for HBD. I don't know if Avisynth 2.6 can swallow that. If needed we could have an option for delivering a different format. Let me know what you need.
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Old 13th November 2020, 12:05   #30192  |  Link
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AVS 2.6 can't handle the higher bit depth, and it has no internal filters equivalent to ConvertBits()
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Old 13th November 2020, 13:26   #30193  |  Link
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There is a hack called Stack16, but why bother when Avisynth+ handles HBD natively?
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Old 13th November 2020, 20:27   #30194  |  Link
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Just as a test, you might want to try replacing the version of NVENCC with the newest one (v05.19) and see if it has an impact.
No difference
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Old 14th November 2020, 00:26   #30195  |  Link
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No difference
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Old 14th November 2020, 15:54   #30196  |  Link
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Hi all, my apologies if there is a better place to request this. I was wondering if an Alternate Output could be added for "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Auto-AC3." Currently there is one that does Auto-AAC but it would be nice to have one that does AC3 so I can play these files over my surround sound system. Currently I have just been converting audio through Staxrip and then converting that output through BDRB with "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio" and it's just very time-consuming. Thank you.
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Old 14th November 2020, 16:03   #30197  |  Link
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Hi all, my apologies if there is a better place to request this. I was wondering if an Alternate Output could be added for "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Auto-AC3." Currently there is one that does Auto-AAC but it would be nice to have one that does AC3 so I can play these files over my surround sound system. Currently I have just been converting audio through Staxrip and then converting that output through BDRB with "MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Intact Audio" and it's just very time-consuming. Thank you.
You can open up the ALTERNATE.TXT file in the MISC folder of the installation and add it. The top of the file tells you what all the parameters mean, and then the existing presets are listed below. Just add another preset with the settings you want. Here's what you'd add (to the default ALTERNATE.TXT) to get the preset you want:

[00041]
caption=MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Auto-Ac3
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=1500
vKeyint=Auto
aBitrate=*
aType=0
vFormat=7
cType=1
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Old 14th November 2020, 16:50   #30198  |  Link
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You can open up the ALTERNATE.TXT file in the MISC folder of the installation and add it. The top of the file tells you what all the parameters mean, and then the existing presets are listed below. Just add another preset with the settings you want. Here's what you'd add (to the default ALTERNATE.TXT) to get the preset you want:

[00041]
caption=MKV Container, HEVC, NO_RESIZE, Auto-Ac3
vEncoder=1
vBitrate=1500
vKeyint=Auto
aBitrate=*
aType=0
vFormat=7
cType=1
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you sir for this great program.
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Old 15th November 2020, 00:54   #30199  |  Link
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This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you sir for this great program.
Good to hear.
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Old 15th November 2020, 11:45   #30200  |  Link
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@jdobbs

thank you very much for your software, itīs amazing, but I have a question...
is it possible to disable the --uhd-bd option in 4k encoding to gain a bit more speed?
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