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Run a test for you Took a decrypted disc on local drive Demuxed all streams (video, audio, subs, chapters, etc) Re-encoded video Used tsMuxeR (latest of the day) to mux into UHD structure Then imported into BD_RB to create menu (quick author) Burnt to BD-RE and tested on Sony UHD player Plays fine .....................renamed tsMuxeR so that BR_RB used latest(at time) tsMuxer(4k) here is MediaInfo report on playlist Code:
: General Complete name : K:\OVERLORD\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00001.mpls Format : Blu-ray Playlist File size : 470 Bytes Duration : 1 h 49 min Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 0 b/s Video ID : 4113 (0x1011) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High HDR format : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible Codec ID : 36 Duration : 1 h 49 min Bit rate : 23.9 Mb/s Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.120 Stream size : 18.3 GiB Writing library : x265 3.5+2-g2b25c9ba0+45:[Windows][GCC 10.2.0][64 bit] Yuuki 10bit Encoding settings Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00001.m2ts / 00001.m2ts Audio ID : 4352 (0x1100) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : MLP FBA AC-3 16-ch Format/Info : Meridian Lossless Packing FBA Commercial name : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos Format settings : Dolby Surround EX Muxing mode : Stream extension Codec ID : 131 Duration : 1 h 49 min Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 640 kb/s Maximum bit rate : 8 355 kb/s Channel(s) : 8 channels Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF) Compression mode : Lossless Stream size : 502 MiB Language : English Service kind : Complete Main Number of dynamic objects : 11 Bed channel count : 1 Bed channel count : 1 channel Bed channel configuration : LFE bsid : 6 Dialog Normalization : -27 Dialog Normalization : -27 dB compr : 1.94 compr : 1.94 dB dynrng : 1.26 dynrng : 1.26 dB acmod : 7 lfeon : 1 dialnorm_Average : -27 dialnorm_Average : -27 dB dialnorm_Minimum : -27 dialnorm_Minimum : -27 dB dialnorm_Maximum : -27 dialnorm_Maximum : -27 dB dialnorm_Count : 1262 compr_Average : 1.63 compr_Average : 1.63 dB compr_Minimum : -6.88 compr_Minimum : -6.88 dB compr_Maximum : 5.46 compr_Maximum : 5.46 dB compr_Count : 574 dynrng_Average : 0.91 dynrng_Average : 0.91 dB dynrng_Minimum : -2.32 dynrng_Minimum : -2.32 dB dynrng_Maximum : 5.46 dynrng_Maximum : 5.46 dB dynrng_Count : 1184 format_identifier : AC-3 Source : 00001.m2ts / 00001.m2ts Text ID : 4768 (0x12A0) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : PGS Codec ID : 144 Duration : 1 h 49 min Source : 00001.m2ts / 00001.m2ts Menu 00:00:00.000 : Chapter 1 00:06:30.264 : Chapter 2 00:13:46.658 : Chapter 3 00:20:30.479 : Chapter 4 00:26:26.960 : Chapter 5 00:34:08.128 : Chapter 6 00:41:09.759 : Chapter 7 00:48:40.543 : Chapter 8 00:55:50.054 : Chapter 9 01:03:20.630 : Chapter 10 01:10:27.765 : Chapter 11 01:17:21.052 : Chapter 12 01:25:46.765 : Chapter 13 01:32:18.323 : Chapter 14 01:38:47.630 : Chapter 15 01:42:38.360 : Chapter 16 01:49:44.203 Chapter 17 Can post settings if needed Last edited by gonca; 6th December 2021 at 23:40. |
7th December 2021, 11:49 | #30963 | Link |
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tsMuxeR is not messing up the structure. It plays fine in a Sony player, HDR and all.
As to E-AC3 being re-encoded, it requires a core to be compliant, might be why BD_RB is re-encoding. What are you using to burn your BD-RE? |
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What you did is not what I did. As noted in my posting, I took a file with 2160p video and E-AC3 audio and told tsMuxer to create an ISO file, which would not play in my player. What you did wasn't even close to what I did. Frankly I do not know if tsMuxer created a Blu-ray compliant structure or a UHD compliant structure. There are no options, that I know of, in which to tell tsMuxer to create one, or the other. But, that is not an issue for BDRB.
E-AC3 requires a core for Blu-ray, but I can't find a requirement that it be so for UHD. E-AC3 plays just fine on my Sony UHD player Hence the need for BDRB to not re-encode if the source is 2160p and being place on a UHD created disc. |
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All Blu-ray spec 'discs' encoded with Dolby Digital Plus audio require a Dolby Digital core. Regardless of the video being 2K (HD) or 4K (UHD)...
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Thanks for the clarification. It is interesting that Sony, a member of the Blu-ray alliance, produces a UHD player that will play E-AC3 audio without a core. And my Denon AVR will handle it and indicate that it is DD+.
Regardless, I'm still begging for a version of BDRB that will allow the user to set an option to not re-encode E-AC3 audio. Even if it means setting an option that the user knows doing so is not to spec and is at the user's risk. The discs I create are for me and I know that I can play them. |
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Maybe you are switching around too many files.
m2ts is considered a media file like mkv or mp4 in a player. That might the reason that the sony plays the m2ts but not the full structure, players tend to be more lenient about media files. Your description mentions remuxing for audio tracks but no mention of how you are correcting the clpi or mpls. In simple terms, I feed the apps compliant streams and they produce a compliant UHD (BD) structure. How are you decrypting the disc? If it is with MakeMKV to mkv file, remember that mastroka cannot have interleaved audio streams, that is why it separates the core out. |
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The Sony will play the structure that BDRB builds, even after I remux the M2TS files that BDRB makes with M2TS files I remux using the BDRB M2TS and E-AC3 audio from the original MKV file. As mentioned, the only issue is that the video quits before the actual end of the file, when playing the UHD structure. The M2TS file plays to completion.
There are no discs involved. The Sony player is not lenient about MKV files, in that it will not play a MKV file with E-AC3 audio. I'm doing nothing with the clpi or mpls files. I didn't figure that I would need to, since the new M2TS files are the same length as the BDRB originals, with the only difference being the AC3 audio being replaced with the E-AC3 audio. Besides, I know nothing about the structure of those two files and what would need to be fixed. I was going to look at the BDRB created files, but discovered that BDEdit will not read BDRB created structures. It doesn't error. It just does nothing.
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You cannot simply swap out m2ts files in a BD structure.
If you change any tracks you must correct the mpls and clpi files, possibly others as well. You are looking at something like BDEdit to do it with the method you are using |
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I tried doing your suggested test. Unfortunately tsMuxer bitches about the E-AC3 audio stream and says that it is aborting. But it looked like it completed, until I went looking for the playlist file. It was not created. All of the other files were.
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Looks like I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. Even if BDRB were to not re-encode the E-AC3 file, because tsMuxer is used, a playlist file won't be created. And since I suspect that BDRB uses the tsMuxer created clip and playlist files, I'm never going to be able to use the Atmos E-AC3 audio stream.
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I'll also add a hidden option that allows you to keep EAC3 (without core) -- assuming I can make it work. I won't document it in HIDDENOPTS.TXT (so people won't get pissed at me when it fails on another player), but I'll post how to use it here in the bug thread.
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BDEdit should work with a standard disc created by BD-RB. But if you want to edit any UHD disc, you have to donate to BDEdit and get an updated version. I did, and it is very helpful in developing/debugging/updating UHD support.
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Nice to know. No where on the official website is it mentioned that the free version will not do UHD discs and that you need to donate to get the download version that has UHD support. How did you find out about it?
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TSmuxerGUI is able to mux E-AC-3 (DD+) audio streams, with or without an AC-3 (DD) core into an .m2ts transport stream. It's just that the Blu-ray disc specification requires all E-AC-3 audio streams to have a DD core. TSmuxerGUI supports a variety of transport stream muxing environments, it not just for creating Blu-ray discs.
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