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Old 29th January 2022, 11:25   #62701  |  Link
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without further notice they all have an exploration date until a different if not worse system will replace that.
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Old 30th January 2022, 02:11   #62702  |  Link
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Hi, I dont think that is right, I have mine setup as follows.

ARC port on TV is connected to ARC port on receiver, then receiver input is connected to pc.
Are you having problems ?

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Old 30th January 2022, 08:49   #62703  |  Link
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look up profiles.

vulkan is not plain faster than DX9.
it's different madVR uses mostly shader and these don't benefit massively from vulkan which uses a completely different shader language so everything has to be rewritten for most likely small gains at best.

there are reasons to do that for feature like dx12 or at least 11 but this is a lot of work.
cant figure out where to autoforce bt2020 without having to use a hotkey yet still, im talking bout forcing, also shame bout vulkan not working like that with shaders ....was just throwing out some ideas how to get more gains for rendering without quality loss, btw whys there no discord server yet for this place....im sure that would be pretty welcome , dont ya guys think? the forums are abit....archaic lol
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Old 30th January 2022, 11:43   #62704  |  Link
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bt 2020 can be forced with nvidia cards and you can use a profile to do that automatically like with HDR force BT 20ß20 else use bt 709.
you fidn the option under calibration.

what does a discord give what a forum can't.

don't get the wrong idea this piece of software is not in the hight of it's development.
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Old 30th January 2022, 14:35   #62705  |  Link
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I think what sexus want to do is to load bt.709 files as bt.2020 files. This will of course make the blues bluer and the reds redder, but if that’s what he wants then why not?
I’m not sure how to do that with profiles. What I do is tick or untick the “send bt.2020” checkbox based on the files colourspace (not just if it’s hdr).
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Old 30th January 2022, 23:05   #62706  |  Link
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Are you having problems ?
no its been like this for years
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Old 31st January 2022, 00:23   #62707  |  Link
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Automatically switch projector to HDR mode using madVR?

Newb question:

I am on windows 10 and using madVR with MPC-BE. Is there a way to get madVR to trigger my JVC projector to switch to HDR mode when playing back a 4K HDR file? Is there something I need to name the file or anything else in windows that needs to be set? I'm using an intel NUC as my computer.

Sorry if this question has been asked a million times.
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Old 31st January 2022, 00:41   #62708  |  Link
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Newb question:

I am on windows 10 and using madVR with MPC-BE. Is there a way to get madVR to trigger my JVC projector to switch to HDR mode when playing back a 4K HDR file? Is there something I need to name the file or anything else in windows that needs to be set? I'm using an intel NUC as my computer.

Sorry if this question has been asked a million times.
Open madVR settings, edit your active device and set "passthrough HDR to display" + "send HDR metadata to the display"
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Old 31st January 2022, 01:02   #62709  |  Link
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Open madVR settings, edit your active device and set "passthrough HDR to display" + "send HDR metadata to the display"
Thanks for the bit of info! Unfortunately that didn't work for me. Somehow the data is not being passed through to the JVC Projector to tell it to switch. The JVC Projector (NX7) is set to Auto mode but doesn't switch to HDR when using mpc-be, lav and madVR even though it works fine switching when I play Netflix 4K HDR using my Netflix App on the Samsung player. Is there something about windows 10 that is causing the issue perhaps?
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Old 31st January 2022, 01:58   #62710  |  Link
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your intel GPU most likely.
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Old 31st January 2022, 02:23   #62711  |  Link
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madVR does not support auto HDR for Intel GPUs.
madVR is long dead.
Use MPC Video Renderer or Kodi for this.
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Old 31st January 2022, 02:29   #62712  |  Link
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Thanks for the feedback. The Intel GPU is most likely the culprit then. Will try MPC Renderer to see if it makes a difference.

EDIT - Tried MPC Video Renderer and the HDR flag gets properly sent to the Projector and it switches. So the issue is likely as said Intel GPU and madVR issue. Since the Intel GPU with MPC Video Renderer passes it fine.

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Old 31st January 2022, 15:38   #62713  |  Link
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I think what sexus want to do is to load bt.709 files as bt.2020 files. This will of course make the blues bluer and the reds redder, but if that’s what he wants then why not?
I’m not sure how to do that with profiles. What I do is tick or untick the “send bt.2020” checkbox based on the files colourspace (not just if it’s hdr).
exactly this! would appreciate if this feature could be implemented without needing to press a force bt2020 hotkey
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Old 31st January 2022, 16:05   #62714  |  Link
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if you want to ruin your content by removing 50% or more information in it you just select bt709 and select report bt 2020.

you could also just run a shader that does this...
or 3D LUT or what ever.
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Old 31st January 2022, 21:56   #62715  |  Link
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@sexus: I've replied to you a month ago with the solution to what (albeit ridiculous thing) you want to do: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...97#post1960597
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Old 1st February 2022, 16:03   #62716  |  Link
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Rename your video file like this: "<video name> primaries=bt2020 matrix=bt2020.<extension>"

interesting ....there gotta be a better way to do this tho ....thats kinda ridiculous having to rename your files like that , thats the only way to force BT2020 besides using the hotkey? i hope not
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Old 1st February 2022, 16:03   #62717  |  Link
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if you want to ruin your content by removing 50% or more information in it you just select bt709 and select report bt 2020.

you could also just run a shader that does this...
or 3D LUT or what ever.
that does not autoforce BT2020, tried that
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Old 1st February 2022, 16:33   #62718  |  Link
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Intel GPU, madVR - make sure HDR is being played properly

Since I'm using an Intel GPU and madVR, what is the best way to make sure HDR is being played properly and handled by my JVC Projector?

What I have been doing is -
1) Setting madVR - "passthrough HDR to display"
2) Setting - "send HDR metadata to the display"
3) Manually switching my Projector to HDR mode since Intel GPU and madVR doesn't do automatic switching as I've been told.

Would the above steps be accurate?

I was in doubt because I was wondering - should I be switching the windows desktop manually to HDR on first? And then with the above settings in place will the correct data will be sent to the projector? I just want to make sure the correct data is being sent to the projector regardless if I have to manually switch certain things on either on the desktop or the projector.

Thanks for any input and advice.
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Old 1st February 2022, 17:11   #62719  |  Link
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I just want to make sure the correct data is being sent to the projector regardless if I have to manually switch certain things on either on the desktop or the projector.
Either way, incorrect metadata will be sent to the projector.
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Old 1st February 2022, 18:22   #62720  |  Link
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Either way, incorrect metadata will be sent to the projector.
Is there any other solution/workaround available to me in my current setup?

Intel GPU (Intel Iris Plus 640)
madVR (v0.92.17)
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