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Old 28th August 2019, 21:39   #57261  |  Link
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An Envy might have more uses than simply video playback. A customizable hardware scaler for putting NGU AA (or Sharp, if you prefer) between a NES and the TV would be pretty cool.

Edit: of course, it will probably add at least one frame of input lag so it may not be a great option.
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Old 28th August 2019, 23:06   #57262  |  Link
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Plus several grand to upscale a video game that didn't come anywhere near that in cost.....seems, I don't know.
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Old 28th August 2019, 23:33   #57263  |  Link
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There are more suitable hardware upscalers for this scenario out in the wild, optimized for gaming. Keep NGU for video IMO.
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Old 29th August 2019, 01:28   #57264  |  Link
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even my TV can do that.
and if you missed it a PC too.
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Old 29th August 2019, 13:49   #57265  |  Link
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Plus several grand to upscale a video game that didn't come anywhere near that in cost.....seems, I don't know.
Several grand? Is that what the Envy is expected to cost? It would surprise me, considering GPU's prices.

Also... it's not as if movies are more expensive than videogames. Quite the opposite is true and has been for a very long time.
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Old 29th August 2019, 14:13   #57266  |  Link
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You should check out the Envy thread on AVS Forum. They've discussed the *POTENTIAL* price range for Envy "quite a bit".

My comment was very much sarcastic on cost. However, presumably you have a lot more videos than games, potentially. Buying the Envy to upscale a few old video games probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense especially given it's not really designed around that use case. It iS, however, designed around video from many different sources. I'm not saying you COULDN'T use the Envy for this, but, it's probably a bit overkill.
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Old 29th August 2019, 15:25   #57267  |  Link
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i just throw input lag in the room so not sure why you would ever use something like that for gaming.
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Old 29th August 2019, 16:22   #57268  |  Link
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That's true, too, I didn't even consider that factor. Yup, use the proper tools for the job.
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Does anyone already know if "Filmmaker Mode" (https://www.experienceuhd.com/filmmakermode) is something that could help us with madVR once the TVs support it? E.g. is it additional data in the video stream or "just" a new picture mode?
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Old 30th August 2019, 15:36   #57270  |  Link
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we already have something like that it's content type with can in theory at least be used with HDMI.

it's pretty much not used at all and a new version of this will take years to spread enough and the next problem we don't even know if it is possible to change that on the fly.

in theory i could be used in the future but for now it's just a marketing gag to boost sales we don't even know hard hard TV producer have to follow it to add it and what exactly it will do in the end.

and if you really really care you will calibrate your screen anyway which is far better then this new "feature" will ever be.
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I might have misunderstood it, but isn't that "Filmmaker Mode" meant to overwrite your settings/calibration? E.g. brightness, white point, ...
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sounds like it just like content type so what?
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No, and we've been discussing this topic in the madvr general topic already. It's not going to overwrite anything. It's basically meant to turn off certain processing like all that "trumotion" crap to get rid of the soap opera effect. And it'll likely set the right color temp. But it's not going to be a magic button that auto ISF callibrates your display for you.
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An Envy might have more uses than simply video playback. A customizable hardware scaler for putting NGU AA (or Sharp, if you prefer) between a NES and the TV would be pretty cool.

Edit: of course, it will probably add at least one frame of input lag so it may not be a great option.
Honestly, Scalars are good, but they're the LAST thing I care about on the Envy.

3D Lut + Dynamic HDR. Those are the real important features.

Scalars, at 5-6 feet, they almost all look the same.

Without color correction on the other hand, Everything looks like Poop.
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Plus several grand to upscale a video game that didn't come anywhere near that in cost.....seems, I don't know.
Several Grand ? you could get SLI 2080Ti and run native resolution for that much
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Again, I point you to the Envy discussion on AVS Forum as the topic of price is pretty much all they talked about for months. You have to understand that this isn't competing with HTPC's or even trying to replace them. It's competing with Lumagen. Don't know if you've priced one of those out lately, but, a few grand might end up being a bargain in comparison. Nonetheless, this is really not the best thread for that discussion.
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Hi guys. Now that Madshi is working with the MadVr Envy project, does anyone here know if development of the normal version of MadVr has stopped?
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Old 1st September 2019, 12:21   #57278  |  Link
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Madshi will not waste his time anymore with directshow and all the Windows mess.
MadVR 1.0 will never be.
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Oh for the love of...

No development hasn't stopped. He's just been busy getting envy out the door. Once he's back he'll likely be finishing the HDR tone mapping functionality.

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Oh for the love of...

No development hasn't stopped. He's just been busy getting envy out the door. Once he's back he'll likely be finishing the HDR tone mapping functionality.
I was just wondering... I mean the man could have changed his mind lately, and decided to stop developement of the regular verson.
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