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Old 20th May 2019, 17:20   #6281  |  Link
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What does this mean exactly? How do you start it? Via File -> Open?
And which MPC-BE version? Latest stable?
Last MPC-BE Stable, but also as I said older versions I tried.

I simply drop the UHD BD Folder in the MPC-BE window, or I start the .mpls directly from the "recent files".

Or the title is selected in MyMovies and launched that way (as a BD folder).

I used to have issues only with MyMovies initially, and only with some titles (it started with The Meg), but now even playing a test file such as a HDR pattern from the Masciola's set of UHD test patterns fails. All the movies titles are rips from my original discs, not dogy downloads.

MPC-HC plays all these files/folders flawlessly, and so does jRiver, so it's not the content but something weird that happened with MPC-BE on that rig and can't be undone, even with a full uninstall including reset to defaults and registry section delete.

I have MPC-BE working with these same titles on my MBP, so I know the software is still working for most, I've just never experienced a situation where I couldn't get MPC-BE to work on my HTPC, which is my main rig to play movies.

I'm asking in case someone has experienced something similar recently and has found a solution. Otherwise I'll have to stick with MPC-HC, as it's working fine, but I prefer MPC-BE a lot more.
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Old 20th May 2019, 18:23   #6282  |  Link
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Does it happen with all files or just one specific video- and/or audiocodec?
What audio device do you use? Try to use another one for investigation.
Try to disable/enable hardware acceleration. Any difference?
Can you provide a sample UHD BD and another file for testing purposes, but only as p.m.

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Old 20th May 2019, 19:30   #6283  |  Link
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Does it happen with all files or just one specific video- and/or audiocodec?
What audio device do you use? Try to use another one for investigation.
Try to disable/enable hardware acceleration. Any difference?
Can you provide a sample UHD BD and another file for testing purposes, but only as p.m.

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Thanks, but all these are basic debugging steps.

I'm asking here in case any one has had recently issues with a perfectly working MPC-BE that suddenly stopped working, and found a way to resolve them.

I've spent hours debugging, I've been a MPC-BE users for years, again I have never been in this situation.

I can't give a sample, I've ripped all my files to bd folders. The issue happens with most UHD Bluray folders as I said, so HEVC. Audio format doesn't matter but I can double check that.

Again, all these files/folders used to work fine with MPC-BE until a few weeks ago. They still work fine with MPC-HC and jRiver. So nothing wrong with the files/folders themselves.

I tried using internal filters with defaults after a reinstall of MPC-BE instead of the LAV/MadVR installed in jRiver, but that doesn't help.

I spent a few weeks trying to debug this, and am again only asking in case someone has experienced a samilar issue recently and found a way to fix it.

The only change I've made, which shouldn't play a part when using MPC-BE as a standalone, is installing the 8.8.2 MCE for windows 10 when 8.8.1 stopped working. The latest 8.8.3 doesn't work (can't install it). That could explain issues when launching with MyMovies, but I don't see why it would change anything when using MPC-BE standalone.
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Old 20th May 2019, 20:32   #6284  |  Link
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System restore possible?
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Old 20th May 2019, 20:51   #6285  |  Link
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a system restore to get a video player to work when another one does sounds like a bit much...

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Some titles don't play or only play for a few seconds (The Meg). Other play fine.
is this consistent?

do you have something like this in an event manager: "Resource-Exhaustion-Detector" ?
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Old 20th May 2019, 20:57   #6286  |  Link
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a system restore to get a video player to work when another one does sounds like a bit much...
Agreed, plus even if it solved it temporarily it would happen again if cause by an automatic update of some sort. I'd rather find the reason.

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is this consistent?
Yes, except that it's getting worse. I started with a few titles, including The Meg, and it would only happen when playing from MCE. I.e. if I tried to play the same title from MPC-BE as a standalonem using the recent file list (so exactly the same plalist as the one played from MCE that crashed), it would work fine. Now it's more titles, and even as a standalone, even simple HDR patterns that MPC-BE has played forever. All these titles that MPC-BE isn't playing anymore, it used to play them fine until a few weeks ago.

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do you have something like this in an event manager: "Resource-Exhaustion-Detector" ?
Don't know, will check for this and will report back, thanks.
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Old 20th May 2019, 21:22   #6287  |  Link
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A system restore point will probably fix it and you can carefully watch every change when it happens again. But you don‘t have to, I only want to help.
A restore point on a HTPC won‘t hurt if you have settings you use already for months.
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Old 20th May 2019, 22:04   #6288  |  Link
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Okay, so I've got it back to the stage where if I start playback from MyMovies with some titles (for example The Meg), playback doesn't start, and if I go to MPC-BE and look at recent file, the file that was attempted to play is there, and if I play it it plays fine.

Some title won't play (The Meg), others will play fine (Lucy). All UHD Bluray folders. Very consistent. The same titles that don't play do play with MPC-HC (even from MyMovies) or jRiver.

I looked at the event log and here is what I get when MPC-BE fails to launch:

Faulting application name: mpc-be64.exe, version: 1.5.3.4488, time stamp: 0x5ca1b2bc
Faulting module name: mpc-be64.exe, version: 1.5.3.4488, time stamp: 0x5ca1b2bc
Exception code: 0xc0000409
Fault offset: 0x00000000015638b4
Faulting process ID: 0x2418
Faulting application start time: 0x01d50f4e9dd9fea1
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\MPC-BE x64\mpc-be64.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\MPC-BE x64\mpc-be64.exe
Report ID: fd19750b-a1a2-4142-b0df-3129e180852c
Faulting package full name:

I've deleted all the LAV versions except the one use in the jRiver plugins folder. I've re-registered both the 32bits and 64bits .ax in these folders, to make sure these were the one used. MPC-BE is set to use external filters, and points at LAV video/audio/splitter/splitter source, same as MPC-HC. Both use madVR, but I get the same issue if I set the renderer to EVR-CP, so not a madVR issue.

The exception code is always the same, but the fault offset and Faulting process ID change every time.

Here is the connected information:

Fault bucket 1264916888158018584, type 5
Event Name: BEX64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: mpc-be64.exe
P2: 1.5.3.4488
P3: 5ca1b2bc
P4: mpc-be64.exe
P5: 1.5.3.4488
P6: 5ca1b2bc
P7: 00000000015638b4
P8: c0000409
P9: 0000000000000005
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER2351.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER249A.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24AA.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24AC.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24CD.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:


Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 218575a0-1255-4a8c-a6ab-1feaf16ac9e3
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: a813813bd95aa688318de3353d0d1c18
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Old 20th May 2019, 23:56   #6289  |  Link
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1 - Try latest SVN version https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last
2 - Reset settings
3 - Try without any external filters(LAV, madVR ...).
4 - Update Nvidia drivers to latest.

I'm using only with internal filters and ANY UHD BD play perfect.

P.S. If nothing help - i can help only if you upload UHD BD for me or give torrent link.
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Old 21st May 2019, 02:11   #6290  |  Link
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More than likely it's mpc-be settings related than anything else. Nvidia drivers shouldn't make a difference considering mpc-hc has no issues.
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Old 21st May 2019, 08:48   #6291  |  Link
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1 - Try latest SVN version https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last
2 - Reset settings
3 - Try without any external filters(LAV, madVR ...).
4 - Update Nvidia drivers to latest.

I'm using only with internal filters and ANY UHD BD play perfect.

P.S. If nothing help - i can help only if you upload UHD BD for me or give torrent link.
Thanks!

Unfortunately, the fact that MPC-BE is now working perfectly well again as standalone points to a problem with the latest MCE 8.8.2 / windows build 1809 issue, or possibly MyMovies. Before 1809, when I used 1806 and MCE 8.8.1, all was working fine.

I only posted in this thread when I started to have issues with the standalone app, but following my last debugging session, I don’t have any more issues with MPC-BE standalone.

For some reason, MPC-BE doesn’t work anymore when called from MyMovies within MCE, and MPC-HC doesn’t have this issue.

Not a title issue, as I said from the beginning, as The Meg is played fine now in standalone MPC-BE (even with external LAV and madVR).

I understand it’s not your job to fix MCE and Windows 10 forced updates, but you won’t be able to reproduce unless you use MyMovies/Media Centre to launch MPC-BE.

I’ll keep using MPC-HC with MyMovies for now, but I’ll see if I can get MPC-BE to work again with MCE. Maybe a reinstall of MCE or similar. I think the best place to discuss this is the MyMovies forum, so I’ll post there.

I’ll keep you posted if I find a solution.

Thanks for your help, and for a great software!
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Old 21st May 2019, 09:05   #6292  |  Link
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Manni, I had audio-problems (drop-outs and glitches) with MPC-BE after the win10-503 update !! But their 504-update seem to have fixed the current problems.
So MPC-BE is as great as ever !!
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Does anyone here own an RME ADI-2 Pro DAC? Using the MPC Audio Renderer, WASAPI Shared plays fine, but Exclusive results in laggy video. This is with the device in Class Compliant (driverless) mode.
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Does anyone here own an RME ADI-2 Pro DAC? Using the MPC Audio Renderer, WASAPI Shared plays fine, but Exclusive results in laggy video. This is with the device in Class Compliant (driverless) mode.
Do you test on latest SVN version - https://yadi.sk/d/hlf1lfC8mKU58/!_last ?

Try change "Device buffer".
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hi,everyone

what is the MPC VR

something like madVR?

or VR(Virtual Reality)?
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hi,everyone

what is the MPC VR

something like madVR?

or VR(Virtual Reality)?
custom VR(Video renderer) - https://github.com/Aleksoid1978/VideoRenderer
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Old 25th May 2019, 16:18   #6298  |  Link
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Is it only me or the latest versions get lot of time when launching?
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Same thing for me too. Tested nightlies (x64) and 1.5.3.4373 seems to be the last build launching practically instantly. Builds starting from 1.5.3.4378 take several seconds.
I have this problem too, take several seconds in last build 1.5.4.4554 and starting from 1.5.3.4378

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Does this help?
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Thanks, but does not help,
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