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28th November 2023, 15:34 | #162 | Link |
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I hope, I read something about a code to find on the forum.
Anyway I have created the big mkv and then put it into BD3D2MK3D. It seems OK : video and audio in DTS HD Master audio displayed on my amplifier. So it means that except it takes more time MakeMKV + BD3D2MK3D can always do the job with no limitation at all? I will try another one with subtitles... By the way I watched Turbo with subtitles yesterday (ISO==>BD3D2MK3D==>mkv SBS) and many times I found issues with the 3D of these subtitles ==> it "destroyed" my eyes when it happened. Last edited by thxoptimizer; 28th November 2023 at 15:42. |
29th November 2023, 15:18 | #163 | Link |
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BD3D2MK3D is not a ripper. It's a converter to create a 3D MKV playable with most hardware or software players. So, indeed, you need another tool to remove the protection of your original, protected BD3D. AnyDVD and MakeMKV are good solutions, but as you know, AnyDVD is not free. I don't know if VLC can do the job.
MakeMKV doesn't convert the original format. It encapsulates it only in a MKV container. The 3D BD format is rather complex, with 2 video streams encoded differently. The AVC stream is just like the video stream of a 2D BD, and can be played with almost all players, but in 2D only. The MVC stream is used to encode the stream for the other eye. It is much more difficult to decode, because it requires to decode also the AVC stream, at the same time. For that reason, only a few players can decode the AVC+MVC format. The MKV files created by MakeMKV contains the AVC and MVC streams, unmodified (but unencrypted), and are therefore very difficult to play. Also, since the streams are just copied, without re-encoding, in a MKV container, they use the same disc space than in the original BD. In the other hand, the MKV files produced by BD3D2MK3D are encoded in universally recognised formats, such as Half-SBS. And, since the video has to be re-encoded, you can specify the quality or file size you want. Of course, if you have a 3D player that can play the AVC+MVC MKV and you don't care about disc space, use MakeMKV, as you will keep the original quality. But it's a very, very rare situation, and most users need to encode in SBS or TAB format. Hence the usefulness of BD3D2MK3D. :-)
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29th November 2023, 15:26 | #164 | Link |
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The 3D subtitles are also complex, as they are stored in the original BD in a format impossible to put in a MKV container. It's why BD3D2MK3D has an option to convert them to 3D. Be sure to enable that option (in tab 2) and to display the 3D subtitles properly with your player. If your player doesn't support them or display them incorrectly, I recommend to hardcode (aka burn) them on the video. See that option in the last tab. Burned 3D subtitles are always displayed correctly, regardless of the player, but of course, they cannot be turned off.
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29th November 2023, 16:31 | #166 | Link | |
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https://ibb.co/QfYCRmL I am not sur to know what to configure (what should I do in such case, cf screenshot)? OK for that; I will always prepare my mkv like that in order to avoid any problem. |
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30th November 2023, 10:08 | #167 | Link |
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MakeMKV is a ripper, like other similar programs. It creates a MKV instead of an ISO, but it's the only difference. Personally, I don't want to add the decryption in BD3D2MK3D (and in PgcEdit) for legal reasons.
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30th November 2023, 10:29 | #168 | Link | |
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The problem is that there are two ways to display the subtitles on a SBS movie. The combined, side by side views must be split (and resized) to be displayed separately to the two eyes. The 3D subtles made by BD3D2MK3D must be processed the same.way. In other words, they must be displayed over the SBS images, before the split. In the other hand, the 2D subtles must be displayed identically over the two views, after the split. Not all players can do the two methods, and it's why using the 2D and 3D subtitles can be a good idea. Unless, of course, you burn the 3D subtitles to the video with BD3D2MK3D. It's similar to the first method of displaying them before the split, except that the player has nothing to do, and you can be sure that the subtitles will be shown with the correct 3D depth. Note that, if you burn the subtitles, you don't have to enable them in tab 2.
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So, to keep things simple, if you use the hardcode option, do not enable any subtitle stream in tab 2, and pay attention to the audio stream(s) only. Note that the Default option is useful also if you include several AUDIO streams in tab 2. It is necessary to tell the player what audio stream you want by default.
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11th December 2023, 12:05 | #172 | Link |
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First of all heavy thanks to r0IZ for your tool and keeping 3D-video alive.
I have a huge collection of 3D-BR and would like to recode them to save space but I want to keep the best quality. This leads to my question: After ripping the disks mit MAKEMKV can I recode them with BD3D keeping the same 3D-FullHD-picture an being able to view them on my FullHD-3D-TV and beamer? Which is the "correct" format I have to use with BD3D2MK3D? Thanks a lot for helping |
12th December 2023, 12:55 | #173 | Link |
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Thanks for the thanks!
To keep the full HD format, use Full-SBS or Full-T&B. Just be sure to untick the Half- option in the last tab. The picture quality is also determined by other settings. The most important one is the CRF value. The lower the best. CRF 0 is lossless, but the file size is terrible, larger than the size of the two original video tracks together. The default 23 compresses very much, and you may prefer to lower that value. IMO, it is useless to use a CRF value less than 15, and personally, I use 18 only when the quality is very important. You may also want to try to encode with x265. It compresses much more for the same video quality, but it is very slow and the HEVC video it produces is much more difficult to decode, and is not supported by pre-Ultra-HD hardware players. Its default CRF value is 28. Anyway, I suggest to do a quick test to check if your TV supports the encoding format and its settings, and if you like the quality. If you don't have a small clip to test, you can lower the number of frames to encode in the __ENCODE_3D.cmd file. Have fun with your 3D movies!
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6th January 2024, 13:59 | #174 | Link | |
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- H265 does rip to even smaller sizes than the equivalent H264 setting. But it does take much, much longer than H264 to encode the same file at similar settings. - H265 is not exactly the same quality because of macro-blocking in low light scenes. It doesn't affect most movies but there are some where you will notice it, especially on a large screen. - Because of the above points, I reverted back to using H264. - Depending on your quality acceptance I found that a minimum saving of 10GB per file works well. On average I save around 15GB per movie. Some movies can go well beyond this saving around 20GB on a 30GB file. - For the more tricky movies or where I want the absolute best quality then 10GB (or less) works well. It's probably wasting a few GB but on average you will save more than enough per movie for it not to be an issue. - Before you ask. If you are using CRF (which you should) I don't know of anyway to specify how much you save. But around CRF 18-22 is a decent range depending on the options you choose. Although for some movies I have gone as low as CRF 16. Others I had added extra command line options or changed the tuning. HtH Last edited by Enet47; 8th January 2024 at 18:00. |
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7th January 2024, 19:48 | #175 | Link |
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Hi,
I have issues with 2 movies in ISO (not really from my own physical disc...). BD3D2MK3D Code:
*** Done. AviSynth script and batch files generated. Done with errors! * DTS-HD stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:01,151. Resync stream. (...) * Warning: The AVC and MVC video streams do not have the same number of frames: 25117 and 25390. That means that the two streams are probably not synchronised properly, and that encoding this playlist to SBS or T&B may fail. The script will be generated anyway. Launch "__ENCODE_3D_LAUNCHER.cmd" to encode the 3D video (and optionally mux to MKV). ******************************************************************************* (BD3D2MK3D) 1 % VLC seems to start movie and 2s after (even if I have Java on my computer) : Code:
Java required: This Blu-ray disc requires Java for menus support.Java was not found on your system. a lot of errors also in the logs (udf: node fe/efe failed! orThe source file '/BDMV/STREAM/00800.m2ts'is corrupted or invalid in offset 118265856), no MKV generated ==>I suppose I can't do anything with that and I have just to send it to trash Last edited by thxoptimizer; 8th January 2024 at 13:44. |
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18th January 2024, 19:37 | #179 | Link |
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FIFA 20210 (Blu-Ray) ==> MAKEMKV (if I read with VLC, no subtitle displayed) ==> BD3D2MK3D :
(it seems I cannot post image... it says that 1280x720 is an exotic resoltion to summurize) 1) nevermind for the subtitles, I can choose my langage 2) even before converting with BD3D2MK3D the subtiles are not working on initial MKV created with MAKEMKV Result on Quest3 / Skybox : the reading of this movie is the only one to be jerky. Last edited by thxoptimizer; 22nd January 2024 at 20:56. |
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