madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[el Filou]

@mambans I understand you're using a 4K display? How exactly have you configured your upscaling? Normally madVR doesn't scale when you're playing source material that matches the display definition.
On the OSD, if the line just after 'movie 3840x...' says 'draw 0,0,3840,...' then it's not doing any scaling.

@jacob Have you checked if the problem can be reproduced with another player like MPC-HC? To know if it's linked to MP or if it's between madVR and the graphics driver.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by mambans

Hello again, I'm wondering if there are any setting to automatically disable upscaling when playing 2160p(4k) content?

You probably aren't upscaling 4k but are applying post processing and or high chroma settings. I assume you have not created any profiles and you need to.

[hotripper]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

You are correct. Dolby TrueHD/Atmos and DTS-HD Master Audio/X are a no go. Only a temporary thing.. I don't mind.

Maybe I dont understand...

But why dont you have one go from hdmi nvidia to tv for 4k picture, and one going from dp nvidia to receiver, and then one ARC tv to receiver? I use this setup and it works perfectly and will carry DTS HD master DD+ etc.

[ryrynz]

Would rather not deal with display quirks doing that and plus I'd need another cable specifically for this, which I'm not prepared to purchase. Will upgrade the amp sometime.

[hotripper]

I dont know what display quirks you mean. It is fine. But yes youll need a Fosmon DP to HDMI cable as this is the only one that works correctly $9 on amazon. Or like you said upgrade the amp so u can passthrough 4k60. I did the former as 9 bucks was better than hundreds on a new receiver.

[mambans]

Originally Posted by el Filou

@mambans I understand you're using a 4K display? How exactly have you configured your upscaling? Normally madVR doesn't scale when you're playing source material that matches the display definition.
On the OSD, if the line just after 'movie 3840x...' says 'draw 0,0,3840,...' then it's not doing any scaling.

@jacob Have you checked if the problem can be reproduced with another player like MPC-HC? To know if it's linked to MP or if it's between madVR and the graphics driver.

Hello, no I'm not using a 4k display, atm I'm using a 1440p but wanna prepare for my ultrawide (3440 x 1440 + HDR), its not 4k but it has HDR.
Madvr stats -> https://i.imgur.com/jblTPaZ.png

Madvr scaling settings ->
https://i.imgur.com/5MnmzkJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/jf1cCjp.png
https://i.imgur.com/nqvovtL.png
https://i.imgur.com/Y9TnTSr.png

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by mambans

Hello, no I'm not using a 4k display, atm

You need profiles set up.
Turn off superRes, try Bicubic 150 as a downscaler, better?

[oldpainlesskodi]

MS just pushed out build 18922 on fast-ring, and banding errors are gone (on my rig), without having to use the workaround.

[el Filou]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

You need profiles set up.
Turn off superRes, try Bicubic 150 as a downscaler, better?

Also sharpen edges and soften edges enabled at the same time sound counter-intuitive to me, and if using the AR filter integrated with some upscalers you shouldn't need to activate anti-ringing in refinement.
Anyway, rendering times of 24 ms for 24 fps movie shouldn't cause any problems so I'm wondering why it "lags".

[ryrynz]

Yeah I wasn't about to critizise his entire setup but things are looking overkill and there's something there doing it. Don't always trust the render times..

[el Filou]

Originally Posted by el Filou

Here's what I would submit, if anyone has any remarks I'd be happy to consider them

Here's the link to the feature suggestion for 'audio-only HDMI/DP output' in MS Feedback Hub, if anyone wants to upvote: https://aka.ms/AA5emb3

[mambans]

Originally Posted by ryrynz

You need profiles set up.
Turn off superRes, try Bicubic 150 as a downscaler, better?

Didn't help much, but I totally forgot about profiles. Can play around with that instead and set a different profile for my HDR (4k) content.

[mambans]

Originally Posted by el Filou

Also sharpen edges and soften edges enabled at the same time sound counter-intuitive to me, and if using the AR filter integrated with some upscalers you shouldn't need to activate anti-ringing in refinement.
Anyway, rendering times of 24 ms for 24 fps movie shouldn't cause any problems so I'm wondering why it "lags".

I'm not that good with Madvr but I have now turned of soften edges and anti-ringing

And I just found out what caused the 'lagging', it was 'reduce compression artifact's under artifact removal.

Btw, just found out about Profiles. Is there anyway to see that profiles is activated? and will this auto profile work:
if (HDR) or (srcWidth >= 3840) "Profile 2"
else "Profile 1"

Thanks so far and in advance.

[madjock]

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php...942#pid2238942

A wealth of info here

[mambans]

Originally Posted by madjock

https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php...942#pid2238942

A wealth of info here

Thanks, will definitely read trough it. I was just skimming through it about profiles but found nothing about seeing the activated profile.

[el Filou]

No way to see it in the OSD (yet), but if you open madVR settings during playback, the folder(s) associated with the active profile will be in bold

[mambans]

Originally Posted by el Filou

No way to see it in the OSD (yet), but if you open madVR settings during playback, the folder(s) associated with the active profile will be in bold

Ah oke, that works. Thanks!

[Djfe]

madVR sadly doesn't seem to support 1440p and 120Hz for 3D playback, yet.
(and the display mode settings don't seem to honored, it switches to 1080p60 and doesn't return to the original display setting once I leave fullscreen; my settings set/unset display mode upon entering/leaving fullscreen, since the display still stays in 1080p60 upon leaving fullscreen, it doesn't reset to original display mode upon leaving the application either :/ ; I might actually report that as a bug later on)

Are there any infos why 3D is limited to 1080p60? Displayport/Nvidia 3D Vision definitely support 3D for more than 1080p and 60Hz (unlike HDMI maybe)

Is there any interest in working on supporting side-by-side/top-bottom/field-sequential/frame-sequential 3D? (I have mostly seen the first two so far)
3D channels on broadcast I have access to are only side-by-side and I don't know of any MVC encoder that is freely available sadly. (If you know of one that is free or has a fair price, pls tell me)
The only way to watch these movies for me so far, is the NVIDIA 3D Vision Video Player. (I'm actually unsure whether I can combine the player with madVR, I'll take a look at this now and update this post later)

Anyways I'm very greatful for madVR, I just started using it and I'm amazed at the results I'm getting on my 1440p monitor, especially the scaling looks way better now!

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

-madVR's 3D support is currently limited to 1080p23.

It has been this way for a while now too. I do not expect madVR to improve its 3D support anytime soon. With 3D being removed from recent Nvidia drivers and the last few generations of TVs it seems like the user base for improved 3D will only decrease in the future. Sorry.

Originally Posted by oldpainlesskodi

MS just pushed out build 18922 on fast-ring, and banding errors are gone (on my rig), without having to use the workaround.

This is really good news! Now to decide if I should install the fast ring...

[Djfe]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

It has been this way for a while now too. I do not expect madVR to improve its 3D support anytime soon. With 3D being removed from recent Nvidia drivers and the last few generations of TVs it seems like the user base for improved 3D will only decrease in the future. Sorry.

cool, thx for the info and linking me to your options thread. My searches didn't bring it up.

What leaves me wondering/confused: Nvidia's control panel shows, that (madVR) set my display to 60Hz (not 23,xxx) and mpc-hc shows with STRG+J that my display runs at 100Hz and everything is synced to 49,xxx
But atleast it works ^^

It's kinda sad to me that 3D is dying but it is how it is.
Though 3D might not be completely dead because you can watch 3D with VR headsets and use madVR for that.
Though only mvc or side-by-side would work. Other 3D formats (like the ones I mentioned) wouldn't work with madVR, yet.