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Old 20th February 2020, 20:30   #14901  |  Link
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why is eac3to ignoring e-ac3 part of a e-ac3 7.1 file and converting only ac3 5.1 core part? I tried to convert a e-ac3 french track from a french movie "Le chant du loup" aka "The Wolf's Call", and it always ignores eac3 part and only converts ac3 core!
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Old 20th February 2020, 21:12   #14902  |  Link
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why is eac3to ignoring e-ac3 part of a e-ac3 7.1 file and converting only ac3 5.1 core part? I tried to convert a e-ac3 french track from a french movie "Le chant du loup" aka "The Wolf's Call", and it always ignores eac3 part and only converts ac3 core!
What audio format are you converting to?
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Old 20th February 2020, 23:09   #14903  |  Link
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From Clown_BD v0.81 info:
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You need to have the UDF2.5 driver installed running under XP, and of course AnyDVD-HD when dealing directly from the disks
AnyDVD-HD, to decript BD disks, is not free, for that I recommend MakeMKV free (while beta) to decript BD disks.
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Thanks for your response. MakeMKV seems to work for now, at least it reads my blu-ray ISOs and I can make an MKV from it

Is there no way to get clownbd to run like it used to on my old pc so I can get a blu-ray structure at the end? I never needed to install AnyDVD-HD or anything other than eac3to, tsMuxer and clownbd (at least to my knowledge) for it to properly read and remux blu-ray ISOs, it just seems really weird to me that it doesn't work anymore, and I liked having demuxing and remuxing into a blu-ray structure all in one program.

Thanks for your help!

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MakeMKV can rip to a bluray structure.
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why is eac3to ignoring e-ac3 part of a e-ac3 7.1 file and converting only ac3 5.1 core part? I tried to convert a e-ac3 french track from a french movie "Le chant du loup" aka "The Wolf's Call", and it always ignores eac3 part and only converts ac3 core!
eac3to's libraries are very outdated. You should be able to fully decode 7.1 e-ac3 using ffmpeg.
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You should be able to fully decode 7.1 e-ac3 using ffmpeg.
Approved. (cit Davie504 )

I switched to ffmpeg months ago and I never had problems.
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Anyone running into issues with recent UHD releases, like Midway and Knives Out?
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how to select right channel while doing -mono? thanks
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Old 23rd March 2020, 16:00   #14910  |  Link
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I wonder if there is any possibility of demuxing the audio stream from Eac3 (8ch) to Waws (8ch)
Currently I always get error.
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eac3to have some limits decoding eac3 streams, but if you have UsEac3to and a recent ffmpeg.exe version in the same folder you can use the 'A/V Recode' button.

1) Load the same file and 'A/V Recode'

2) Select track (first track for ffmpeg is '0' video, then '1' for first audio track)

3) Select decode to w64 (we expect a big file)

4) 'Run' (or 'Enqueue')

5) Load the .w64 output and now 'Output' to .wavs
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how to select right channel while doing -mono? thanks
You can't do it, with stereo input the output is the left channel (with multichannel the output is the center channel).

If you need only the right channel use the output to .wavs and discard the left channel.
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You can't do it, with stereo input the output is the left channel (with multichannel the output is the center channel).

If you need only the right channel use the output to .wavs and discard the left channel.
thanks, i never noticed .wav and .wavs.......
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1. "normal" (not "strange setup") DTS-HD MA 7.1 has the following channel layout:



which in the way how Microsoft (and thus eac3to) named the channels is the same as:



or DTS channel names mapped to Microsoft channel names are as follows:

DTS channel name <---> Microsoft channel name

L <---> L
R <---> R
C <---> C
LFE <---> LFE
Lsr <---> BL
Rsr <---> BR
Lss <---> SL
Rss <---> SR
Hello,

Is this DTS <---> Microsoft channel map correct?

I thought that if demuxing a DTS-HD 7.1 track and then encode it again in DTS-HD Master Suite I should use SL for LSS and SR for RSS (surround channels) and BL for LSR and BR for RSR (back channels). And similary with a DTS-HD 7.1 strange setup I thought SL is LS, SR is RS, BL is LSR and BR is RSR.

According to the Microsoft channel layout image it should be as I've said, but then in the text table DTS channel name <---> Microsoft channel name BL and BR seem to be exchanged with SL and SR.

Thanks

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...I should use SL for LSS and SR for RSS (surround channels) and BL for LSR and BR for RSR (back channels).
OK.

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And similary with a DTS-HD 7.1 strange setup I thought SL is LS, SR is RS, BL is LSR and BR is RSR.
By your text seems you talk about Other Setup (see image 2), then is OK, but I never see a DTS like this.
The Strange Setup, than I see more often (see the image 1), table maybe can be:

Left <---> ? FrontLeft of Center
Right <---> ? FrontRight of Center
Center <---> FrontCenter
LFE <---> LFE
Leftwide <---> ? FrontLeft
Rightwide <---> ? FrontRight
Leftsusrround <---> don't exist, in 5.1 can be BackLeft (old) or SideLeft (now)
Rightsurround <---> don't exist, in 5.1 can be BackRight (old) or SideRight (now)

But like nobody have the speakers in the correct position, the table used is like the standard 7.1:

Left <---> FrontLeft
Right <---> FrontRight
Center <---> FrontCenter
LFE <---> LFE
Leftwide <---> SideLeft
Rightwide <---> SideRight
Leftsusrround <---> BackLeft
Rightsurround <---> BackRight

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... in the text table DTS channel name <---> Microsoft channel name BL and BR seem to be exchanged with SL and SR.
The text table for Standard Setup (see image 3) is OK for me:

Leftsurroundrear <---> BackLeft
Leftsurroundside <---> SideLeft
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The Strange Setup, than I see more often (see the image 1), table maybe can be:

Left <---> ? FrontLeft of Center
Right <---> ? FrontRight of Center
Center <---> FrontCenter
LFE <---> LFE
Leftwide <---> ? FrontLeft
Rightwide <---> ? FrontRight
Leftsusrround <---> don't exist, in 5.1 can be BackLeft (old) or SideLeft (now)
Rightsurround <---> don't exist, in 5.1 can be BackRight (old) or SideRight (now)
Thanks, I thought that the strange setup was this:

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Thanks, I thought that the strange setup was this:
I never see a DTS like this (in commercial movies of course, not created by you), you can upload a sample?
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I never see a DTS like this (in commercial movies of course, not created by you), you can upload a sample?
In fact I don't know how to test if the strange setup is your image 1 or your image 2, but as in the DTS-HD Encoder Suite version I have apart from the standard setup, the only other 7.1 config available is the one shown in your image 2, I thought that was the strange setup.

Here you have a sample of the original track I'm using: https://www.upload.ee/files/11326828/sample.dtshd.html

EDIT: I've seen that there's an option to show all 7.1 layouts and then the one in your image 1 (among others) appear... Is then an easy way to know the config used in the original DTS-HD 7.1 track to use it again in the new edited track?

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eac3to have some limits decoding eac3 streams, but if you have UsEac3to and a recent ffmpeg.exe version in the same folder you can use the 'A/V Recode' button.

1) Load the same file and 'A/V Recode'

2) Select track (first track for ffmpeg is '0' video, then '1' for first audio track)

3) Select decode to w64 (we expect a big file)

4) 'Run' (or 'Enqueue')

5) Load the .w64 output and now 'Output' to .wavs
Thank you very much for the information.
the file "ffmpeg.exe" which download Shared or Static?
Thank you

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the file "ffmpeg.exe" which download Shared or Static?
The Static, only one file without need *.dll's
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