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Old 23rd December 2008, 22:16   #3501  |  Link
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Could you send me sample to www.mediafire.com. I will check if I have the same problem as you
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Old 23rd December 2008, 22:31   #3502  |  Link
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sorry if this sounds stupid, but what would you like a sample of?
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Old 23rd December 2008, 22:32   #3503  |  Link
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sample of source (.m2ts or .evo) 50MB will be ok
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Old 23rd December 2008, 23:30   #3504  |  Link
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ok I have my .m2ts file now (was having some trouble with tsmuxer before), how do i cut 50MB from it?
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Old 23rd December 2008, 23:41   #3505  |  Link
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http://neuron2.net/dgsplit/dgsplit10.zip
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Old 24th December 2008, 00:18   #3506  |  Link
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ok awesome. here's the 50MB sample: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7...db6fb9a8902bda

Edit: The sample I included was just the video as I had demuxed the DTS-HD MA and extracted the DTS core before. I decided to retry encoding it with the .m2ts and .dts files. I set everything up and surprisingly, it worked (it's doing pass 1 right now). The problem occurred before when I simply chose the .m2ts from the disc/bdmv/stream folder using RipBot264 and got it to demux the video/audio. Beats me why it happened, but since you're the RipBot264 creator maybe you'll have some strange desire to want to fix it or figure out why it did that... (we can all hope, I suppose)

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Old 24th December 2008, 00:29   #3507  |  Link
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Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps
I have always thought it just used the actual audio track in the m2ts when I select copy stream. I have so far used all AC3 640k and one DTS 768k on around 15 discs. What would happen if the track is AC3 640k and I used the AC3 640k setting? I haven't had any problems with low audio but I do use a DD/DTS amp.
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Old 24th December 2008, 00:47   #3508  |  Link
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Audio normalization is only available if you re-encode audio. if you don't have problems with volume you should always use COPY STREAM

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remux your 50 MB sample in tsmuxer and check if you can convert new .m2ts . it works on my pc.
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Old 24th December 2008, 00:49   #3509  |  Link
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Audio normalization is only available if you re-encode audio. if you don't have problems with volume you should always use COPY STREAM
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OK, good. I'll stick with copy stream then.
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Old 24th December 2008, 03:38   #3510  |  Link
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Hi all.

I've got the latest version of ripbot264 from the first page of this thread. I've downloaded the latest version of ffdshow (ffdshow_rev2527_20081219_clsid.exe - I have also tried ffdshow_rev2527_20081219.exe), and I keep getting the attached error:

The error occurs on each time when I:

Open ripbot264,
Select 'Add',
Browse to, and select a ripped Hd-DVD .evo file,
Select 'No Subtitles' in the 'Select Streams' screen.

Ripbot264, starts analysing the streams, demuxing goes to 2%, 'Gathering information' then appears in the bottom of the active screen, then I get the error. On checking the H drive, the file does not exist.

Appreciate any help to get past this.

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Old 24th December 2008, 05:52   #3511  |  Link
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Instead of Copy stream select AC3 640 kbps
solved the "low audio" problem doing this:

- disinstall ffdshow
- clean registry
- restart
- install ffdshow
- used 4.1 BD profile

now video and audio are perfect! finally

hope this'll help someone else.

(used the last ffdshow "ffdshow_prebeta6_rev2527_20081219" and no other codec installed, like k-lite etc..)
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Old 24th December 2008, 05:55   #3512  |  Link
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...about the True-HD problem,
i used tsmuxer with the "downcovert in AC3" in the audio track.
I know true-HD is better, but audio is good for me!
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Old 24th December 2008, 07:59   #3513  |  Link
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- used 4.1 BD profile
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Ripbot264, starts analysing the streams, demuxing goes to 2%, 'Gathering information' then appears in the bottom of the active screen, then I get the error. On checking the H drive, the file does not exist.
show me video - log.txt
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Old 24th December 2008, 08:03   #3514  |  Link
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hi Atak_Snajpera ..

i have this error when i run the program



what this mean ?

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Old 24th December 2008, 08:12   #3515  |  Link
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...about the True-HD problem,
i used tsmuxer with the "downcovert in AC3" in the audio track.
I know true-HD is better, but audio is good for me!
There isn't much support for dts-hd ma and truehd yet - at least if you're playing the file on your computer. AC3 @ 640kbps is good, but for bluray movies, I personally prefer DTS audio tracks. eac3to enables conversion from truehd to dts. You might want to check it out if you're interested.

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- disinstall ffdshow
By the way, it's uninstall, not disinstall.
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Old 24th December 2008, 08:26   #3516  |  Link
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show me video - log.txt
Hi atak. Thanks for taking the time to respond. Based on the following it looks like the issue relates to the Haali muxer. An alternative is offered. I'll give it a go tomorrow. Thanks again. Allan


eac3to v2.78
command line: "C:\Program Files\media players & editors\ripbot\Tools\eac3to\eac3to.exe" "D:\movies\reign of fire\FullDisc\DVD_VOLUME\" 1) 3:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\video.mkv" 4:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac" 2:"H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt" -progressnumbers
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EVO, 1 video track, 2 audio tracks, 2 subtitle tracks, 1:41:58
"pgm"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 12 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 2046kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB, -17ms
5: E-AC3, Japanese, 5.1 channels, 448kbps, 48khz, dialnorm: -25dB, -17ms
6: Subtitle, Japanese
7: Subtitle, Japanese
[a04] The Nero decoder doesn't seem to work, will use libav instead.
Creating file "H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\chapters.txt"...
[v03] This EVO/VOB file contains authoring faults. Will try to work around that. (263)
[v03] Extracting video track number 3...
[v03] Removing h264 pulldown...
[v03] Muxing video to Matroska...
[a04] Extracting audio track number 4...
[a04] Removing E-AC3 dialog normalization...
[a04] Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
[a04] Remapping channels...
[a04] Applying RAW/PCM delay...
[a04] Reducing depth from 64 to 24 bits...
[a04] Encoding FLAC with libFlac...
Loading white noise (needed for dithering)...
[a04] Creating file "H:\temp\RipBot264temp\job1\audio.1.eac3.flac"...
Unfortunately the Haali Muxer cannot handle this source file.
It doesn't contain enough seek/recovery points.
The "-seekToIFrames" option may work around that.
However, using this option may result in artifacts when seeking.
[v03] Waiting for DirectShow decoder thread to finish. Please wait...
Aborted at file position 309559296.
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Old 24th December 2008, 21:52   #3517  |  Link
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There isn't much support for dts-hd ma and truehd yet - at least if you're playing the file on your computer. AC3 @ 640kbps is good, but for bluray movies, I personally prefer DTS audio tracks. eac3to enables conversion from truehd to dts. You might want to check it out if you're interested.



By the way, it's uninstall, not disinstall.
If you're doing a 2-pass, I don't know why people keep the DTS or even 640kbps AC3. Maybe the difference it makes for the video is peanuts, but the video quality is much more important for me than the audio. In other words, I can tolerate even 128kbps AAC over a macroblocky, noisy picture.

But hey, one man's trash is another man's treasure
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Old 24th December 2008, 22:20   #3518  |  Link
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If you're doing a 2-pass, I don't know why people keep the DTS or even 640kbps AC3. Maybe the difference it makes for the video is peanuts, but the video quality is much more important for me than the audio. In other words, I can tolerate even 128kbps AAC over a macroblocky, noisy picture.
I agree with you at some point. I convert everything to 640 AC3 because I can't hear difference between 2Mbps DTS-HD and AC3 640kbps. I was testing using JLB speakers + Sound Blaster Fatality + Yamaha amplituner couple samples at my friends house and everything sound exactly the same. I really don't understand why some people are so obsessed with DTS-HD @ 2 Mbps or PCM (TrueHD or any lossless format). Backup does not have to be always 1:1 .

for 5.1 AC3@640 Kbps seems optimal for me. Everything below may not sound that good as original track. 128 AAC for stereo may sound as good as mp3 @ 192 kbps.
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Old 25th December 2008, 00:30   #3519  |  Link
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I agree with you at some point. I convert everything to 640 AC3 because I can't hear difference between 2Mbps DTS-HD and AC3 640kbps.
Well, you said you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p, either.

I, on the other hand, can hear a world of difference between 640Kbps AC3 and even 1536Kbps DTS (let alone TrueHD or DTS-MA). It's just a much fuller range, especially the HD audio. It's no comparision, really. I mean, I can listen to the AC3 track and find it quite acceptable, until I switch to the TrueHD track and am swept over by a sea of audio. I even bought a new amp for it, so I can convert the TrueHD and DTS-MA audio to LPCM, and stream em to my PS3 that way at their high bitrates.

I agree, of course, that video quality is more important than the audio. But audio is very important, too. And it's only with the advent of Blu-ray that the industry has finally acknowledged the importance of audio. And I'm the happier for it.
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I personally have very sharp hearing and prefer the DTS audio over AC3 especially with 720p/1080p. For example, when I compared the difference between AC3 640kbps and DTS 1.5 Mbit when watching The Dark Knight, it was a huge difference. The sound felt fuller, especially since I have a 5.1 surround sound system for my computer. For my 720p encodes, I like a balance between video and audio. The video at great quality is priority one, but it shouldn't diminish the fact that audio affects my movie watching experience. I guess each to his/her own - it's why we use video encoding programs - so we can create what we want.
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