madVR - high quality video renderer (GPU assisted)

[iopq]

Originally Posted by huhn

try reset to defaults. but this sounds strange did you update madVR while it was still running?

Already tried, didn't help. I did update madVR while it was running, but it didn't let me replace the files so I couldn't do it. I replaced the files again and I think I found the problem:

the settings are dropdowns, you need to click on the little < for them to actually show something

I have another issue:

When I launch Brood War (which has a resolution of 640x480 so it changes screen resolution) and alt tab back out, MPC says

madVR reports:

- creating Direct3D device failed (80070005)

[huhn]

well doubling clicking works too just to let you know.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by iopq

I have another issue:

When I launch Brood War (which has a resolution of 640x480 so it changes screen resolution) and alt tab back out, MPC says

madVR reports:

- creating Direct3D device failed (80070005)

This is normal, the game destroys the Direct3D device when it changes the resolution so madVR fails.

You cannot do anything like this with madVR running, e.g. sleeping the computer has a similar result.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by iopq

I can't adjust any settings with the newest version

Use the batch file in the installation directory and reset madVR to default settings.

[iopq]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

This is normal, the game destroys the Direct3D device when it changes the resolution so madVR fails.

You cannot do anything like this with madVR running, e.g. sleeping the computer has a similar result.

It might be normal, but it's undesirable that MadVR doesn't handle this gracefully.

[huhn]

well maybe this is the place to add this: http://bugs.madshi.net/view_all_bug_...d=4&dummy=bla/

it is just me saying that but i don't think this is a high priority issue

[XTrojan]

New windows beta build supports HDR and native rec2020 colorspace, Madshi might wanna take a look?

[clsid]

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx

[dansrfe]

Could NVIDIA's default optimal power vs adaptive power be causing this reboot on madvr paused + display idle/off?

[burfadel]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

This is normal, the game destroys the Direct3D device when it changes the resolution so madVR fails.

You cannot do anything like this with madVR running, e.g. sleeping the computer has a similar result.

Actually sleeping the computer (or at least, having the monitors turned off and therefore video as well) doesn't result in that. If there isn't buggy code for the architecture in the driver related to this when you wake it up again you simply have to double-click back to windowed mode and then again back to full screen to reset it. I believe this also works for full screen windowed mode, but I doi t for full screen exclusive mode.

With my R9-280X it worked, when I first got the RX480 it didn't (possibly requiring a cold restart of the computer), but now with 16.12.1 it works again.

[Oguignant]

I do not find a good setup to see old remastered movies 2k to 4k. They are very noisy. Can somebody help me?

I'm using the latest version of madvr with this configuration:

luma: very high
chroma: let madvr decide
upscaling/downscaling: let madvr decide.

Without any upscaling refinement

I would appreciate any help.

Thks

[Asmodian]

For old movies I suggest:

NNEDI3 128
luma: doubling: 128 neurons, quadrupling: 32 neurons
chroma: let madVR decide
upscaling/downscaling: let madvr decide

NNEDI3 is great for older video content while NGU is great for native HD content.

[adhara]

Hi,

When looking at HDR (10 bits, HEVC) video on MadVr(Jriver), I get a black screen.
My display is full 4k / HDR / HDCP 2.2 compliant and my graphic card too (Nvidia GTX1070).

Is there any recommanded settings or user guide (MadVr/Nvidia control pannel) for watching a HDR video on my HTPC ?

Thx

[Oguignant]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

For old movies I suggest:

NNEDI3 128
luma: doubling: 128 neurons, quadrupling: 32 neurons
chroma: let madVR decide
upscaling/downscaling: let madvr decide

NNEDI3 is great for older video content while NGU is great for native HD content.

I'll try the configuration you recommend. I'll tell you later.

Thks

[Oguignant]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

For old movies I suggest:

NNEDI3 128
luma: doubling: 128 neurons, quadrupling: 32 neurons
chroma: let madVR decide
upscaling/downscaling: let madvr decide

NNEDI3 is great for older video content while NGU is great for native HD content.

Nnedi3 128 for chroma upscaling, right?

Update

I tried it. It looks a little better. But the render time is high. 40ms. Is a remux file of 30 gb with bit rate 41.6mb/s. I use gtx 1080 g1 oc.

[Asmodian]

Originally Posted by Oguignant

Nnedi3 128 for chroma upscaling, right?

Update

I tried it. It looks a little better. But the render time is high. 40ms. Is a remux file of 30 gb with bit rate 41.6mb/s. I use gtx 1080 g1 oc.

No, I never use over NNEDI3 64 for chroma upscaling, and that is for SD where the performance hit is almost non-existent as any improvement is unnoticable. NNEDI3 32 would be my max for HD, especially remastered content.

I meant NNEDI3 128 for luma doubling to 4K, but of course that depends on which GPU you have. NNEDI3 128 runs at about the same speed as NGU veryHigh for me so I hoped you could run it as well. I can run NNEDI3 256 for 1080p24 -> 2160 so I might be overestimating what is possible.

[Oguignant]

Originally Posted by Asmodian

No, I never use over NNEDI3 64 for chroma upscaling, and that is for SD where the performance hit is almost non-existent as any improvement is unnoticable. NNEDI3 32 would be my max for HD, especially remastered content.

I meant NNEDI3 128 for luma doubling to 4K, but of course that depends on which GPU you have. NNEDI3 128 runs at about the same speed as NGU veryHigh for me so I hoped you could run it as well. I can run NNEDI3 256 for 1080p24 -> 2160 so I might be overestimating what is possible.

My gpu is nvidia gtx 1080 gaming g1 (oc 2150mhz) All with the same mkv remux file (30gb bit rate 40mb/s) without compressiono...

Chroma upscaling nnedi3 32
Image upscaling NNEDI3 doubling 256 quadrupling 32
Render time 58 ms
Others option let madvr decide

Chroma upscaling nnedi3 32
Image upscaling NNEDI3 doubling 128 quadrupling 32
Render time 40 ms
Others option let madvr decide

Chroma upscaling nnedi3 32
Image upscaling NNEDI3 doubling 64 quadrupling 32
Render time 24 ms
Others option let madvr decide

Chroma upscaling NGU high
Image upscaling NGU high
Render time 19 ms
Others option let madvr decide

Chroma upscaling NGU high
Image upscaling NGU very high
Render time 40 ms
Others option let madvr decide

Render times are very bad. I do not understand why.
This gpu is the fastest I found.

[ryrynz]

Fired up the 30th anniversary of Transformers the Movie tonight (It looks amazing) and I'm quite happy with super-xbr 150 AR
being used for chroma upscaling for this type of content.

There's a number of scenes like this and they all show similar benefit. NGU doesn't do too good here, thinning lines and being softer than super-xbr 150 AR (even NGU very high SR4!)
Where as super-xbr 150 is keeping the same line thickness but giving it some nice line darkening. Can post more scenes if anyone would like to see them.

Check it out.

[Werewolfy]

I'm interested to see more screenshots. It's a great example to show that chroma does count.

Could you post screenshots of this scene with Jinc or NNEDI3 32/64 neurons just to see the results? I didn't expect that super-xbr was so good actually, I aslo find it better than NGU very high in this example.

[ryrynz]

Originally Posted by Werewolfy

I'm interested to see more screenshots. It's a great example to show that chroma does count.

Could you post screenshots of this scene with Jinc or NNEDI3 32/64 neurons just to see the results? I didn't expect that super-xbr was so good actually, I aslo find it better than NGU very high in this example.

Thanks. This isn't just limited to red scenes either, but this scene really does look to be a good test for comparisons of chroma scalers and is a full quality rip of the blu-ray.

As you'd expect based on what I've said previously NNEDI3 32 neurons and 64 neurons are almost identical, 64 is a waste of resources IMO :P
I think NNEDI3 has the edge here but it's slight.

Jinc AR vs NNEDI3 64 neurons.
NNEDI3 32 neurons vs NNEDI3 64 neurons.