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27th July 2015, 16:12 | #32161 | Link |
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Thats not an option users need to worry about, its only for players that want to show an interactive OSD with madVR.
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Symantec keeps detecting mvrsettings32.dll after each new release. You can submit a false positive report here (if you haven't done so already): https://submit.symantec.com/false_positive I have already done it for the current version.
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SuperRes in Upscaling Refinement got more expensive in v0.88.21 compared to v0.88.20, because that was the only way to make higher radius settings work without artifacts. SuperRes is still a work-in-progress. Performance might change from one version to the next. When all is said and done, maybe we can squeeze some more performance out of SuperRes. Makes no sense to do time consuming optimizations right now, when things are not in their final state yet.
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well then at least use the scaling factors which refer to the scalings of the resolutions I suggested. also, using resolutions with which you are still able to recognize changes of course.
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I'll give you that I didn't mention "softness" in .15 but then again it shoulda been called "bluriness", this knob is beyond useless IME. 1) Refute the following claims you made a few days ago: Quote:
It's not quite the end-user's fault if you've changed the SR logic in a way that makes LQ useless in .20. Again, it's the middle of summer and many ppl are on vacation......still, not every mVR tester has gone AWOL and someone else would appear to see things the same way I do(God forbid ^^): Quote:
2) You've decided to only provide on single strength knob in .20, being your own very personal homebrew experimental recipe of a mix between the number of the passes and strength(as known in .15). This cannot work IME and it definitely doesn't in .20 as even a strength of 1 is way too sharp to be of any use huh(and again, I'm not the only one thinking so). On one hand you refuse to provide knobs in order to finetune sxbr and on the other LQ SR with a strength of 1 is über-sharp and HQ is blurry as hell, major show stoppers at work here. 3) Show that sxbr125 with 3@0.41LQ in .15 looks better than anything HQ could ever provide in .15 or .20. 4) Allow me to see that NEDI has been superseded by sxbr125, once the SR settings are finetuned in order to counterbalance its sheer sharpness. Quote:
I did use both builds with the sole features they provide, stop hiding knobs from the end-user and you'll get your fair comparison. As I said, in .15 I don't like 4@0.41 or 3@0.42, I'm not sure such tiny differences would be visible on screenshots at all ....the same way most of the chroma suboptions would be mostly invisible too, yet users are allowed to pick one over another.......if they all look "roughly the same", you might as well ditch most of them and only keep one or two for all I know. I really wasn't aware that mVR was going towards a "more or less the same ya know the deal" route, good to know. Quote:
Lemme know what screenshots might possibly change your mind then? Would a comparison of 2@1.0LQ against 3@0.41LQ with the former being sharper and less detailed make your day? I should fairly easily be able to make that happen. BTW, I also really like 3@0.41(0.00 softness eventually) SR on chroma with sxbr125+AR...PQ stunningness never ends hah! I did check eventually and it is not, I can even rename PotP's folder without a itch. W7 is prolly keeping your DLL locked for some reason, this very DLL would appear to be related to networking. Last edited by leeperry; 28th July 2015 at 01:04. |
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Well, some process must still have it loaded. Maybe madHcCtrl.exe is still running? Maybe you've changed the madVR tray icon setting to have it always visible? |
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By the way, are there any known issues with "use Direct3D 11 for presentation" or "use separate device for presentation" with HD4000 IGPs? On my laptop using either of these options leads to major presentation issues (frames jumping about all over the place). Not a big deal since I can disable both options, just wondering if you knew.
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Reality is that 99.9999999% of mVR users watch good ole SD/HD movies and will either go cheap coz they have to, J3AR due to its high bang/bucks ratio or NNEDI3/sxbr if they wanna go all the way sharpness-wise. Seriously, if anything is bound to confuse new users it's for instance the ability to upscale chroma using that many different algorithms, I mean who would ever use Spline for this job? No one, yet this useless option is here confusing the hell out of newbies. The whole point of two separate knobs for SR is the ability to finetune the final picture sharpness based on the end-user personal taste, display native sharpness(due to blurry/grainy anti-reflective coatings for instance, especially on TN computer screens that look hazy compared to mineral glass Plasma's), viewing distance(the farther the sharper), the MTF/OTF sharpness of the end-user prescription eyewear lenses(organic glass and even worse polycarbonate come with very poor constringence and have to be counterbalanced), how the TV applies its RGB/YcBcR back and forth conversions, how sharp the image doubling algorithm is and so on. Botttom line is that mVR is in dire need of a very subtle sharpness knob IMO and you are against it as of now. Quote:
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As for me, it's not important if this gets fixed or not, I am not using fullscreen mode, as it's too annoying that lag which happens when I try to display the context menu in MPC-HC to switch the audio or subtitle track. With windowed mode, and therefore no 10 bit per channel output, there are no issues, even with D3D11 (and the framerate does not matter in this case, either). As an additional note, the sudden frame skips that happen with 0.80.20 when turning the OSD on/off and that people reported, I have also seen them - and they also happen only when using D3D11 and fullscreen mode (did not see them when using windowed mode, or D3D9). I have not yet tested 0.88.21, so I don't know if these frame skips are still present. Who knows, maybe the issue is in the way MPC-HC interacts with madVR, since the issue happens only after two or more switches between fullscreen and windowed mode. Or it could be something weird with the nvidia driver. Last edited by KoD; 27th July 2015 at 20:14. |
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Agreed, 2 or even 3 sec would be better.
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With 353.49 Hotfix drivers, my OSD shows "Chroma > NNEDI64" and below "Image > Catmull-Rom AR" . It doesn't say NNEDI3 64, but just NNEDI64. Does that mean NNEDI3 is being used or not? |
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You should all really stop speculating on things that don't have a shred of proof that it matters. NNEDI clearly still works. If you want to test something, check if its slower or something.
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28th July 2015, 00:42 | #32180 | Link |
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maybe im too stupid, but how can i change lq / hq super ress?
i know i read it somewhere but cant find it anymore.. i cant see teh setting HQ/LQ . or did i miss something? greetz also, i cant see any difference with super ress on or off.. what do i have to look for? its one of the only settings i dont understand yet.. |
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