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Old 24th April 2020, 15:09   #29381  |  Link
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demux 0006.m2ts with tsmuxer, demux the file with the track you want, then remux vid from 0006 and the audio from the file you want the audio back to m2ts ??
I tried that already. It does not work because there are more tracks on the same playlist.

I am hoping on a hidden option to show all the streams

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Old 24th April 2020, 20:41   #29382  |  Link
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I tried that already. It does not work because there are more tracks on the same playlist.
Then place 0006 in the muxer and remove an audio track from the list. Add the wanted track and place it in the sequence from which you deleted the audio. Now, when you mux that you'll have the correct number of audio streams. Be sure to keep any and all sub-title streams.
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Old 25th April 2020, 11:36   #29383  |  Link
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Then place 0006 in the muxer and remove an audio track from the list. Add the wanted track and place it in the sequence from which you deleted the audio. Now, when you mux that you'll have the correct number of audio streams. Be sure to keep any and all sub-title streams.
That does not work. When I play the updated bluray it skips the track I messed with. Because of that I wanted to make the audio switch in BD_RB so BD_RB could repair the playlist.

Is there a hidden option to make BD_RB list all the tracks in the stream window? Just as it shows all the tracks when I setup for a small target size?

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Old 25th April 2020, 18:56   #29384  |  Link
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That is what the two options that CraigWally posted are supposed to do. No idea why they didn't work.

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That does not work. When I play the updated bluray it skips the track I messed with. Because of that I wanted to make the audio switch in BD_RB so BD_RB could repair the playlist.

Is there a hidden option to make BD_RB list all the tracks in the stream window? Just as it shows all the tracks when I setup for a small target size?
You need to replace the .clpi files too and fix any discrepancy using BDEdit.
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Old 25th April 2020, 21:20   #29386  |  Link
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You need to replace the .clpi files too and fix any discrepancy using BDEdit.
I did replace the .clpi file and there is no discrepancy between the old and new audio file, only a sync difference. And I don't know what must be done with BDEdit. I find that program very difficult to use. Because of that I tried to solve it with BD_RB.
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Old 27th April 2020, 11:51   #29387  |  Link
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I have a problem with converting to MKV so stubbornly the application forces bdrebuilder settings for blu-ray despite the fact that I do not want to

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[04.27.20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.04
[12:34:50] Source:  07_ZGLOS_SIE_DISC_8_00000
  - Input BD size: 22,45 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:43:08.000]
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled
  - Mode: MKV Container, 1920x1080, 640Kbs DD5.1
  - Quality: Ultra-High (Extremely Slow)
  - Automatic cropping of borders enabled
  - X264 Tweak(s) enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:34:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [12:34:52] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
 - [12:34:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [12:38:39] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 25,000fps, 154 700 frames
 - [12:38:39] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 1
   - Analyzing 11,00 30,50 26,31 23,87 23,28 [23,29]
bdrebuilder.ini
Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.4
ENCODER=0
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
TARGET_SIZE=24250
MULTIPROCESS=1	
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;pol;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;pol;
SD_CONVERT=0
ALTERNATE_BLURAY=1
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=3
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24250
TWEAK_PASS_TWO= --deblock -3:-3 --bframes 9 --b-pyramid strict --ref 5 --no-mbtree --rc-lookahead 60 --aq-mode 2 --merange 32 --me umh --direct auto --subme 9 --partitions all --trellis 2 --psy-rd 1.0:0.05 --no-fast-pskip --mvrange 512 
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=10
ALTCRF=23
ALT_TARGET=1024
ALT_CRF_TARGET=6750
ALTMETHOD=3
ALTAUTOCROP=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=\\NASTS328HOSSA\DOWNLOAD\07 ZGŁOŚ SIĘ (1976-1987) - REKONSTRUKCJA CYFROWA D08\B2507ZGL8SE6688750\07_ZGLOS_SIE_DISC_8\
WORKING_PATH=C:\TEMP\
DGIndexNV=C:\BD\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\x32 Binaries\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\BD\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\x32 Binaries\DGDecodeNV.dll
and mediainfo output file:

Wideo
Format : AVC
Format/Informacja : Advanced Video Codec
Profil formatu : High@L4.1
Ustawienia formatu : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Ustawienia formatu, CABAC : Tak
Ustawienia formatu, poklatkowy : 4 klatki
Rodzaj przepływności : Zmienna
Przwpływność maksymalna : 15,0 Mb/s
Szerokość : 1.508 pikseli
Wysokość : 1.080 pikseli
Proporcje obrazu : 1,396
Szybkość wyświetlania klatek : 25,000 kl/s
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bitów
Rodzaj skanu : Progresywny
Biblioteka zapisująca : x264 core 158 r2984 3759fcb
Ustawienia kodowania : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.05 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=fake / bluray_compat=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=48 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=48 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=23.3 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=15000 / vbv_bufsize=15000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=2:1.00

its possible to disable bluray-compat?

even though I set it in x264, twak 0 makes compatible blurk mkv anyway
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Old 28th April 2020, 13:22   #29388  |  Link
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Hello
sorry for my English
I have a problem with converting to MKV so stubbornly the application forces bdrebuilder settings for blu-ray despite the fact that I do not want to

its possible to disable bluray-compat?

even though I set it in x264, twak 0 makes compatible blurk mkv anyway
From HIDDENOPTS.TXT:
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ALTERNATE_BLURAY=n	n = 0/1   Default "1", if set to "0" --bluray-compat setting not used for ALTERNATE encodes
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Old 28th April 2020, 16:54   #29389  |  Link
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its possible to disable bluray-compat?
There really is no need. Having the H.264 file with that compile flag will not make the file play any differently than if it was not there.
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Old 29th April 2020, 22:57   #29390  |  Link
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ALTERNATE_BLURAY=n	n = 0/1   Default "1", if set to "0" --bluray-compat setting not used for ALTERNATE encodes
thank you for your reply, unfortunately, despite adding the entry to bdrebuilder.ini still doing restrictions (due to the bluray-compat option enabled) and both vbv-bufsize and vbv-maxrate sets rigidly to 15000 and bframes to 3

ps

after removing bdrebuilder.ini from the disk and adding exactly the same options to the newly created bdrebuilder.ini, the bluray-compat option has finally turned off, but still after CRF it introduces restrictions as for AVCHD i.e. vbv-maxrate and vbv-bufsize 15000 and bframes 3 knot that in the case of CRF if there is a dynamic scene, these restrictions reduce the quality of the scenes themselves (instead of e.g. 35Mbps it is only 15Mbps)
adding manually in tweak as if bdrebuilder skips

Code:
Ogólne
Pełna ścieżka                           : C:\Temp\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.3.264
Format                                  : AVC
Format/Informacja                       : Advanced Video Codec
Rozmiar pliku                           : 34,2 MiB
Rodzaj całkowitej przepływności bitów   : Zmienna
Biblioteka zapisująca                   : x264 core 158 r2984 3759fcb
Ustawienia kodowania                    : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.05 / 
mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=24 /
 lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 /
 b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=48 / keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 /
 rc_lookahead=48 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=19.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=15000 / vbv_bufsize=15000 /
 crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00
do you have any idea?

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to make it more interesting the temp that bdreuiblder uses to find the right CRF for the given size, say that it normally encodes

Code:
Ogólne
Pełna ścieżka                           : C:\Temp\WORKFILES\TEMP.264
Format                                  : AVC
Format/Informacja                       : Advanced Video Codec
Rozmiar pliku                           : 65,2 MiB
Rodzaj całkowitej przepływności bitów   : Zmienna
Biblioteka zapisująca                   : x264 core 158 r2984 3759fcb
Ustawienia kodowania                    : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=9 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.05 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=32 /
 chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=24 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 /
 decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=24 /
 keyint_min=1 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=19.1 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=35000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 /
 crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=vbr / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00
he understands nothing more

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Old 30th April 2020, 04:07   #29391  |  Link
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thank you for your reply, unfortunately, despite adding the entry to bdrebuilder.ini still doing restrictions (due to the bluray-compat option enabled) and both vbv-bufsize and vbv-maxrate sets rigidly to 15000 and bframes to 3
Why do you care? Are you having issues playing the MKV files?
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Why do you care? Are you having issues playing the MKV files?
I have no problem with playback only as it comes out, for example CRF set 16 on bdrebuilder theoretically uses bitrate up to 15 Mbps (vbv-bufsize and vbv-maxrate ) and at dynamic scenes you should bitrate up to 40Mbps
Temp CRF is ok vbv-bufsize=30000 and vbv-maxrate=35000 (30 and 35Mbps - standard bluray?) but finished encode set vbv-bufsize=15000 and vbv-maxrate=15000 a large discrepancy in encoding
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Has FRIMSource and FRIM Encode ("Intel Quicksync") some disadvantages in the quality of the encoded material over the another options as LAVF and FRIMSource?
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I have a problem with importing MKV - I make BD25 from Remux MKV:
If there is an audio delay (1 sec) to the video (I check in mediainfo), after building pseudo-BD structure, the audio will be delayed with 1 sec.
The BD-RB does not take into account the delay time or what is the problem?

I observed the importing procedure step-by-step:
1. Copy the source file to Tempimport folder, there is a few Mb's difference. Why need this? Less compatibility problems during playback?
2. Demux into video, audio, subs.
3. Building pseudo-BD structure
It takes approx. 1 hour.
With TSMuxerGui it takes approx. 20 mins (I think it performs only the 3. step?)
What is the main difference? I just want to know how it's works...

The resulting BD structure cannot be played on my BD player due to blocking, and other playback problems (the MKV compressing method is the problem I think)
I always recompress with BD-RB. Sometimes the pseudo-BD file size will be smaller than the BD25, and the source image bit rate will be larger than it was after rebuilding with BD-RB. This is interesting.

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The resulting BD structure cannot be played on my BD player due to blocking, and other playback problems (the MKV compressing method is the problem I think)
MKV is a wrapper. It does not do compressing of any sort.

I have no clue as to why the BDRB recoded video won't play correctly on your BD player. If the H.264 video is not recoded, then it might not play correctly. Not all H.264 video provided within MKV files are necessarily recoded correctly, i.e., not Blu-ray compliant.

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Old 12th May 2020, 19:01   #29396  |  Link
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One question

Is it possible to read a guide for every option ?
Because bdrebuilder is a wonderful software but i have fear that i dont use it in the best way because i dont know the effects if a set all the option on or off

Thanks guys
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Is it possible to read a guide for every option?
No. Only what is written within the hidden options text file and this thread.
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Old 13th May 2020, 01:43   #29398  |  Link
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My wording was bad. Not compress -> only encode to other bitrate.
The MKV is a wrapper as the M2TS.
As you said the Blu-ray compatibility will be the key.

Returning to the other question, I adjusted the audio delay (1 sec) to the movie in directly the TSMuxerGui.
I get the same result with TsMuxerGui as in the BD-RB import function in 1/3 time.
Played in PC I think is OK, but I would still be wondering if the BD-RB does anything else extra, thinking from the longer processing time?
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Your BD_RB log would be helpful to see if BD_RB did demux -> remux or demux -> decode -> reencode -> remux.
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My wording was bad. Not compress -> only encode to other bitrate.
Encoding is the same thing as compressing, especially if you take the higher bitrate of a Blu-ray file and recode to a lower bitrate, you are definitely compressing.

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