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Old 23rd April 2022, 22:47   #31241  |  Link
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The video track is flagged as DV and tsMuxeR sees that
That is why there is no info under Vi
But, doesn't the stream info under the DV tab satisfy the spec that JD listed? The tsmuxer programmer strive to satisfy the specs. Are you saying they got this wrong?
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Old 23rd April 2022, 23:29   #31242  |  Link
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If my suspicions are half right tsMuxeR got it right
If there is no info to input, it can't set the info
Don't forget, in BD Dolby vision is "usually" a two track thing, standard 4K HDR track + DV track
The "failure" might be in the remuxing to MKV
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No. I'm saying that the video stream entry is listed under the DV section, not the Vi section. screengrab
The screengrab link doesn't seem to work.
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Old 24th April 2022, 00:12   #31244  |  Link
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But, doesn't the stream info under the DV tab satisfy the spec that JD listed? The tsmuxer programmer strive to satisfy the specs. Are you saying they got this wrong?
If I read the spec correctly, if a video stream exists -- the frame rate has to be set (in the video entry).
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Old 24th April 2022, 01:22   #31245  |  Link
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I did two remuxes of a DV movie, one with MakeMKV and the second with MKVtoolNIX

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makemkv
Code:
General
Unique ID                                : 51054395928025620456322350733546145217 (0x2668B80FCBF508D87377603C94BAC5C1)
Complete name                            : J:\No Time to Die\makemkv.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 2
File size                                : 66.2 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 43 min
Overall bit rate                         : 58.0 Mb/s
Movie name                               : No Time to Die
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-04-23 23:51:01
Writing application                      : MakeMKV v1.16.7 win(x64-release)
Writing library                          : libmakemkv v1.16.7 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)

Video
ID                                       : 1
ID in the original source medium         : 4113 (0x1011)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : Dolby Vision, Version 1.0, dvhe.07.06, BL+EL+RPU, Blu-ray compatible / SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 43 min
Bit rate                                 : 58.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.292
Stream size                              : 66.2 GiB (100%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 902 cd/m2
Original source medium                   : Blu-ray
mkvtoolnix
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General
Unique ID                                : 332274804988886377338244567194467391288 (0xF9F9CCB72174D9811EC018C8BF995738)
Complete name                            : G:\mkvtoolnix.mkv
Format                                   : Matroska
Format version                           : Version 4
File size                                : 66.2 GiB
Duration                                 : 2 h 43 min
Overall bit rate                         : 58.0 Mb/s
Movie name                               : No Time to Die
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-04-24 00:01:17
Writing application                      : mkvmerge v65.0.0 ('Too Much') 64-bit
Writing library                          : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Cover                                    : Yes
Attachments                              : cover.jpg

Video #1
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 43 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Content Light Level              : 1000 cd/m2
Maximum Frame-Average Light Level        : 902 cd/m2

Video #2
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
HDR format                               : SMPTE ST 2086, HDR10 compatible
Codec ID                                 : V_MPEGH/ISO/HEVC
Duration                                 : 2 h 43 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Default                                  : Yes
Forced                                   : No
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
Note that the mkvtoolnix report shows two tracks, video and DV layer
The makemkv report shows one track, a DV layer

I also remuxed to BD with tsMuxeR and the mkvtoolnix version shows all the info in BDedit while the makemkv version only shows the DV data
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Old 24th April 2022, 01:52   #31246  |  Link
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The screengrab link doesn't seem to work.
Do it again. Something is up with vidiot.com, while vidiot.net works. Both report to the same computer (same IP).
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Somehow, two of my DNS record's IP addresses were changed and they weren't changed by me. I've changed them back, but it will take a wee bit for the change to spread.
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Thinking about it, I didn't think that DV could be done with only one video track. I prefer not to have DV video as it is not displayable via projectors. If it is all I have, then the projector will just ignore it.

Now I know what to look out for. Maybe BDRB can put out a warning that these videos are not valid DV videos.

Learn something new every day.
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Thinking about it, I didn't think that DV could be done with only one video track. I prefer not to have DV video as it is not displayable via projectors. If it is all I have, then the projector will just ignore it.

Now I know what to look out for. Maybe BDRB can put out a warning that these videos are not valid DV videos.

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Wouldn't say not valid
Maybe not valid for BDs but is valid for mp4 and mkv
Problem is playing back these DV mp4 and mkv files
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Wouldn't say not valid
Because BDRB is being used for BD/UHD creation, then they would be invalid.
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Problem is playing back these DV mp4 and mkv files
My BD player has no problem with these files authored onto BDs.
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My BD player has no problem with these files authored onto BDs.
Players will do all kinds of things that they weren't supposed to

...until they don't.
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So true.
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I'm looking at making a change so that if the video entry is empty, BD-RB will gather info from the DV entry. It shouldn't have to... but this wouldn't be the first time BD-RB did something it shouldn't have to.

[edit] Ughh... I just looked at the code and this isn't going to be as easy as I'd hoped. Oh well...
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[edit] Ughh... I just looked at the code and this isn't going to be as easy as I'd hoped. Oh well...
But, it will be greatly appreciated.
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Somehow, two of my DNS record's IP addresses were changed and they weren't changed by me. I've changed them back, but it will take a wee bit for the change to spread.
Then you possibly may have been subject do DNS poisoning or an unauthorized change. Maybe look into DNSSec on your provider level
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I suspect it is something that I did. Hover is my domain name holder. I seriously doubt that they got hacked. Plus, only 2 of the 5 entries was incorrect. And, it wasn't a random IP address pointing to a nefarious location.
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Can you tell me how you create a structure that will cause the error you mentioned (DV has an entry but VID doesn't)? Here's what I did:

1. Use MKVMERGE to create an MKV file from an M2TS that has DV.
2. Use TSMUXER (UHD Version) to create a UHD/BD structure from the MKV file.

When I do it, it seems to create the structure fine, and I don't get the error.
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If you use MakeMKV and then create the BD structure with tsMuxeR you will get DV info only

EDIT
see my post above
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If you use MakeMKV and then create the BD structure with tsMuxeR you will get DV info only

EDIT
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Oh. I see. It requires that the MKV be created by MakeMKV. Interesting. If I use MKVMERGE, it creates an MKV with two video tracks which imports fine into an UHD-BD structure.
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If you use MakeMKV and then create the BD structure with tsMuxeR you will get DV info only

EDIT
see my post above
So the question would be... why take this circuitous route of creating a movie-only BD structure anyway? To run into this problem you have to:

1. Use MAKEMKV to decrypt/create an MKV from the original disc.
2. Use TSMUXER to create a BD structure from the MKV.
3. Use BD-Rebuilder to create a Movie-Only version that is smaller.

Why not just:

1. Use MAKEMKV to decrypt/copy the BD structure to your hard drive.
2. Use BD-Rebuilder to create a Movie-Only version that is smaller.

If you also want an MKV, BD Rebuilder can do that for you too.

Am I missing something?
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