Welcome to Doom9's Forum, THE in-place to be for everyone interested in DVD conversion. Before you start posting please read the forum rules. By posting to this forum you agree to abide by the rules. |
24th April 2014, 21:21 | #20103 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,368
|
Quote:
And you do know that you're shrinking a 20GB of data onto a format that can only hold 4.36GB right. In order to achieve that, bdrb has to shrink to a format 5x less the original size. So the bitrate has decrease immensely |
|
24th April 2014, 22:33 | #20105 | Link |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
I think that's fair. I've done movies in that size range to BD-5 before using X264. They're not comparable to the quality you'd get on a BD-25, but they're pretty good. The notable thing is that, once again, the HW mode creates a mess.
Last edited by jdobbs; 24th April 2014 at 22:35. |
25th April 2014, 08:16 | #20106 | Link |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Within the main Source.
Posts: 895
|
Cloud Atlas Subtitle/Chapters Bug?
Code:
[04/24/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.14 (beta) [21:55:20] Source: CLOUD_ATLAS_00100 - Input BD size: 34.67 GB - Approximate total content: [02:51:57.432] - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601] - MOVIE-ONLY/ALTERNATE OUTPUT mode enabled - Mode: MKV, Intact Video, DTS2AC3 or Keep AC3 - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way] - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640 [21:55:22] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [21:55:22] Processing: VID_00057 (1 of 2) - [21:55:22] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00057] - [22:02:47] Reencoding video [VID_00057] - [22:02:47] Keeping original video (no reencode) - [22:02:47] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3... - [22:06:48] Processing: VID_00058 (2 of 2) - [22:06:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00058] - [22:07:13] Reencoding video [VID_00058] - [22:07:13] Keeping original video (no reencode) [22:07:13]PHASE ONE complete [22:07:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started - [22:07:13] Building ALTERNATE OUTPUT Structure [22:41:57] - Encode and Rebuild complete [22:41:57] JOB: CLOUD_ATLAS finished. Noticing a SUP has a 0 size might have something to do with it? Code:
04/24/2014 10:41 PM <DIR> . 04/24/2014 10:41 PM <DIR> .. 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 27,109,525,867 00057.track_4113.264 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 1,946,125,176 00057.track_4352.dts 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 41,571,513 00057.track_4608.sup 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 31,296,814 00057.track_4609.sup 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 37,301,387 00057.track_4610.sup 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 1,235,212,226 00058.track_4113.264 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 0 00058.track_4608.sup 04/24/2014 09:55 PM 614 AUD_00057.meta 04/24/2014 10:06 PM 825,395,200 AUD_00057_4352.AC3 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 291 AUD_00057_4352.AVS 04/24/2014 10:06 PM 196 AUD_00058.meta 04/24/2014 10:23 PM 936 mChapters.chp 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 243 MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 232 VID_00057.AVS 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 197 VID_00057.CHP 04/24/2014 10:01 PM 5,278,154 VID_00057.DGI 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 232 VID_00058.AVS 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 22 VID_00058.CHP 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 288,860 VID_00058.DGI Code:
04/24/2014 10:02 PM 27,109,525,867 00057.track_4113.264 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 1,946,125,176 00057.track_4352.dts 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 41,571,513 00057.track_4608.sup 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 31,296,814 00057.track_4609.sup 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 37,301,387 00057.track_4610.sup 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 1,235,212,226 00058.track_4113.264 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 0 00058.track_4608.sup 04/24/2014 09:55 PM 614 AUD_00057.meta 04/24/2014 10:06 PM 825,395,200 AUD_00057_4352.AC3 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 291 AUD_00057_4352.AVS 04/24/2014 10:06 PM 196 AUD_00058.meta 04/24/2014 10:23 PM 936 mChapters.chp 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 243 MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 232 VID_00057.AVS 04/24/2014 10:02 PM 197 VID_00057.CHP 04/24/2014 10:01 PM 5,278,154 VID_00057.DGI 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 232 VID_00058.AVS 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 22 VID_00058.CHP 04/24/2014 10:07 PM 288,860 VID_00058.DGI
__________________
Life is not a journey to the grave; but rather to skid out broadside, thoroughly used, torn and warn and loudly proclaim; WOW; What a ride!!! Soon, I'm going to do it AGAiN in different skin!! Last edited by AmigaFuture; 25th April 2014 at 09:18. |
25th April 2014, 22:26 | #20107 | Link |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Help
Just have reencoded a source (My Monsters, inc BD - SD extra video)using 3:2 pulldown (MPEG-2, 480i, 29,97fps, 153MB) getting the following results:
- converted to 1920x1080i (upresized), CRF=20, without IVTC and deinterlacing, 84,2MB - played back fine in powerdvd and popcorn-hour - converted to 1920x1080i (upresized), CRF=20, with IVTC enabled, 40,7MB - video played back stalling while the audio was continuous through the timeline in powerdvd and popcorn-hour - converted to 1920x1080p (upresized), CRF=20, without IVTC, SmoothDeinterlace enabled, 42,8MB - video played back very similarly as the previous - converted to 1920x1080p (upresized), CRF=20, with IVTC and SD_PROGRESSIVE enabled, 40,4MB - video played back very similarly as the previous 2 ones. I am a little bit confused about the similar "stalling effect" with all the last 3 results. If someone has an idea, it would be really appreciated. Thank you! |
26th April 2014, 00:30 | #20108 | Link |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
What are you using for decoding? I've done hundreds of encodes from DVD to BD using iVTC, most with DGDecodeNV, and have had no problems. In fact, I just encoded 40 episodes from a series that were MPEG-2, 480i, 29.97 with iVTC today (resulting in 23.976 output).
Can you post the AVS file of the source that is causing the issue? Last edited by jdobbs; 26th April 2014 at 01:21. |
26th April 2014, 10:06 | #20109 | Link |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Within the main Source.
Posts: 895
|
I haven't done any testing of FIRMEncode/Decode because I thought it is for 3D only. I skipped some of the chatter because I have some 3D+2D movies, but since I don't watch anything in 3D. But, JDobbs, yours comment about 2D is intriguing. So, I'll try it with my i7 930. I've never agreed with the saying, "If it isn't broke, don't modify/fix it." Talk about a recipe for stagnation and same ol' same ol'... ;-) So, on that note...I'll report soon.
__________________
Life is not a journey to the grave; but rather to skid out broadside, thoroughly used, torn and warn and loudly proclaim; WOW; What a ride!!! Soon, I'm going to do it AGAiN in different skin!! |
26th April 2014, 10:34 | #20110 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Quote:
I do not use DGdecNV because I do not have a CUDA enabled video card (AMD Firepro V4900). Please find all the four avs files as a zip attachement from which 3 causes very similar playback errors in all the 2 player devices I currently have. (PC with Powerdvd and Popcorn-hour C200 with it's own playback software). I really appreciate your efforts! |
|
26th April 2014, 12:32 | #20111 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Quote:
DirectShowSource results = stalling video, audio OK LAVF = cannot be used for frameserving by such sources DGdecNV = cannot be used for frameserving because not owning an Nvidia with CUDA video decoding support FRIMSource = plays fine, but I will never want to use ABR in my encodes.... |
|
26th April 2014, 13:59 | #20112 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Quote:
DirectShowSource enabled for frame serving + set IVTC_TELECIDE=0 in the ini. file + "IVTC sources with 3:2 pulldown" checkbox selected, however the avs script (attached) says nothing about IVTC... |
|
26th April 2014, 14:04 | #20113 | Link | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
Quote:
If you are getting jerky motion with these AVS files, only one of three things might be the reason. 1) The source isn't telecined; 2) The source is hybrid; 3) The players have issues. |
|
26th April 2014, 14:08 | #20114 | Link | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
Quote:
Do you have "IVTC_480i=1" set in your INI file? If so that's the issue. That should only be set when you have a hard-telecined source. It can really screw with non-telecined sources. Last edited by jdobbs; 26th April 2014 at 14:12. |
|
26th April 2014, 14:53 | #20115 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Quote:
telecined and BD-RB automatically started the IVTC process on this source by selecting the IVTC checkbox in the setup dialogue. |
|
26th April 2014, 16:36 | #20116 | Link | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
Quote:
|
|
26th April 2014, 23:30 | #20118 | Link |
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Within the main Source.
Posts: 895
|
FRIMEncoder is at FPS: 31.xx to 33.xx.
Code:
[04/26/14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta) [02:46:55] Source: CLOUD_ATLAS_00100 - Input BD size: 34.67 GB - Approximate total content: [02:51:57.432] - Target BD size: 23.14 GB - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601] - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled - Quality: High-Speed Option (BD-25+), Two Pass - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMSource - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640 [02:46:58] PHASE ONE, Encoding - [02:46:58] Processing: VID_00057 (1 of 2) - [02:46:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00057] - [02:54:44] Reencoding video [VID_00057] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 233,455 frames - Bitrate: 16,352 Kbs - [02:54:44] Reencoding: VID_00057, Pass 1 of 2 - [02:54:44] Reencoding: VID_00057, Pass 2 of 2 - [04:52:37] Video Encode complete - [04:52:37] Processing audio tracks - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio - [04:52:37] Processing: VID_00058 (2 of 2) - [04:52:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00058] - [04:53:07] Reencoding video [VID_00058] - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080 - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 13,916 frames - Bitrate: 13,286 Kbs - [04:53:07] Reencoding: VID_00058, Pass 1 of 2 - [04:53:07] Reencoding: VID_00058, Pass 2 of 2 - [04:57:59] Video Encode complete [04:57:59]PHASE ONE complete [04:57:59]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started - [04:57:59] Rebuilding BD file Structure [05:10:49] - Encode and Rebuild complete [05:10:49] JOB: CLOUD_ATLAS finished. Next test (2D)...I've switched BD-RB to x264 Encoder. Nothing else changed. With the same parts x264 is getting ~46 FPS. This is for single pass only. More tests to do.. A side note to my previous post about "Cloud Atlas" with English PGS showing as 5+ hours long, I had BD-RB imported the MKV to create a BD. Then played the BD with PowerDVD 12 and my LG. Both showed the move as being 5+ hours. For your information. Again, only way it shows it the correct play time is without the English PGS. I'll try with French or Spanish without English, soon.
__________________
Life is not a journey to the grave; but rather to skid out broadside, thoroughly used, torn and warn and loudly proclaim; WOW; What a ride!!! Soon, I'm going to do it AGAiN in different skin!! |
27th April 2014, 03:17 | #20119 | Link | |
Moderator
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 20,975
|
Quote:
SD_PROGRESSIVE=1 If it is set to "0" (as in your INI). When you change it BD-RB is told to insert pulldown flags (via X264) in the output. TSMUXER can't handle 3:2 pulldown (even in MPEG-2), I think it's a PTS/timing issue, but I've never looked at it closely enough to say for sure. That's why the SD_PROGRESSIVE default is "1". The "0" setting is really only useful for output to MP4 or MKV. I'm pretty much positive that's the source of your problem. [Edit] Interestingly I just noticed that the HIDDENOPTS.TXT file incorrectly states that the default is "0". That is incorrect -- the default is "1" -- I've updated HIDDENOPTS for the next release. Last edited by jdobbs; 27th April 2014 at 03:33. |
|
27th April 2014, 10:42 | #20120 | Link | |
Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 577
|
Quote:
when IVTC_TELECIDE=0, and with the other IVTC attempts when IVTC_TELECIDE=1 and each other settings were unchanged was around 40,5MB. So, much bigger filesize couples with fine playback while the smaller one with a jerky one. |
|
|
|