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My goal is I want to get these TrueHD format BD movies I back up from my HTPC to my pre-amp. I did not finish the threads since most of the posts are talking about how to do it. I just want to see is this the right tool for me before I convert the BD audio stream. So to sum up: This is a tool to convert TrueHD audio format to LPCM, WAV or FLAC and output to our receivers. Right? If it is the case, I guess this is not for me since I want to get the TrueHD to my pre-amp using HDMI 1.3, right? Yes, I realize as of today there is nothing can output TrueHD to pre-amp from our HTPC yet. From best of my knowledge, in the future x-tension card from Auzentech or Intel G45 MB will be the hardewares we need in order to output the TrueHD format from our HTPC to receiver. |
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What is your video format? Do you plan to use the BD's as they are or have you convert them to mkv?
HDMI 1.3 is useful if you need to transfer TrueHD, DTS-HD or LPCM (and decoded FLAC) audio. Otherwise you can use spdif for AC3 and DTS or analog for all the previous. |
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hi guys I'm quite new to this burning blu-ray thing and i seem to be having way to much problems with the audio. I've followed many of the tutorials and am stuck with the audio not being liked by a eac3to. I've started with evodemux and got the audio (ddp) and video (vc1) fine. video works fine ran it with vc1conv and ran muigenerator and works fine with scenarist. the audio on the other hand gives me a problem when i try to run it with eac3to says
"eac3to v2.45 command line: eac3to d:\temp\vc1\audio1.ddp d:\temp\vc1\audio.wavs -sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ AC3, 2.0 channels, 1:49:00, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB Removing dialog normalization... The Sonic (E-)AC3 Decoder applies DRC. Decoding with DirectShow (Sonic Audio Decoder)... DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 16 bits, 48khz Writing WAVs... Creating file "d:\temp\vc1\audio.R.wav"... Creating file "d:\temp\vc1\audio.L.wav"... This track is not clean. Processing aborted. Please clean the track with delaycut and then retry eac3to. Aborted at file position 2424832. " so i use delaycut and i get this in my logfile "[Input info] Bitrate=1087 Actual rate=1087.000000 Sampling Frec=48000 TotalFrames=108247 Bytesperframe=1450.0000 Filesize=156959019 FrameDuration= 10.6716 Framespersecond= 93.7069 Duration=00:19:22.659 Channels mode=2/0: L+R LFE=LFE: Not present [Target info] StartFrame=0 EndFrame=108246 NotFixedDelay= 0.0000 Duration=00:19:15.165 ====== PROCESSING LOG ====================== Time 00:00:00.000; Frame#= 1. Crc error SILENCED: read = DDDD; calculated=6DB0 Time 00:00:00.010; Frame#= 2. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 682 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.021; Frame#= 3. Crc error SILENCED: read = DDDD; calculated=1BDF Time 00:00:00.032; Frame#= 4. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 682 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.042; Frame#= 5. Crc error SILENCED: read = DDDD; calculated=5FB5 Time 00:00:00.053; Frame#= 6. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 682 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.064; Frame#= 7. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #1 and this frame Time 00:00:00.064; Frame#= 7. Crc error SILENCED: read = 6108; calculated=BC0F Time 00:00:00.074; Frame#= 8. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2556 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.085; Frame#= 9. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #7 and this frame Time 00:00:00.085; Frame#= 9. Crc error SILENCED: read = 5369; calculated=F18A Time 00:00:00.096; Frame#= 10. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2594 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.106; Frame#= 11. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #9 and this frame Time 00:00:00.106; Frame#= 11. Crc error SILENCED: read = F33F; calculated=2029 Time 00:00:00.117; Frame#= 12. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2368 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.128; Frame#= 13. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #11 and this frame Time 00:00:00.128; Frame#= 13. Crc error SILENCED: read = 4967; calculated=4827 Time 00:00:00.138; Frame#= 14. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1122 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.149; Frame#= 15. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #13 and this frame Time 00:00:00.149; Frame#= 15. Crc error SILENCED: read = F9F3; calculated=0748 Time 00:00:00.160; Frame#= 16. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 848 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.170; Frame#= 17. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #15 and this frame Time 00:00:00.170; Frame#= 17. Crc error SILENCED: read = 73ED; calculated=D95D Time 00:00:00.181; Frame#= 18. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1098 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.192; Frame#= 19. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #17 and this frame Time 00:00:00.192; Frame#= 19. Crc error SILENCED: read = 956B; calculated=556A Time 00:00:00.202; Frame#= 20. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2818 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.213; Frame#= 21. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #19 and this frame Time 00:00:00.213; Frame#= 21. Crc error SILENCED: read = BD43; calculated=1C7C Time 00:00:00.224; Frame#= 22. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 340 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.234; Frame#= 23. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #21 and this frame Time 00:00:00.234; Frame#= 23. Crc error SILENCED: read = 9136; calculated=5577 Time 00:00:00.245; Frame#= 24. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 638 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.256; Frame#= 25. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #23 and this frame Time 00:00:00.256; Frame#= 25. Crc error SILENCED: read = 1709; calculated=8263 Time 00:00:00.266; Frame#= 26. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2442 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.277; Frame#= 27. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #25 and this frame Time 00:00:00.277; Frame#= 27. Crc error SILENCED: read = 6734; calculated=7FA9 Time 00:00:00.288; Frame#= 28. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 608 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.298; Frame#= 29. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #27 and this frame Time 00:00:00.298; Frame#= 29. Crc error SILENCED: read = 000A; calculated=9DC4 Time 00:00:00.309; Frame#= 30. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 460 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.320; Frame#= 31. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #29 and this frame Time 00:00:00.320; Frame#= 31. Crc error SILENCED: read = 9F3E; calculated=DBC1 Time 00:00:00.330; Frame#= 32. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1606 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.341; Frame#= 33. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #31 and this frame Time 00:00:00.341; Frame#= 33. Crc error SILENCED: read = C235; calculated=BDE2 Time 00:00:00.352; Frame#= 34. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 742 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.362; Frame#= 35. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #33 and this frame Time 00:00:00.362; Frame#= 35. Crc error SILENCED: read = ACC2; calculated=A802 Time 00:00:00.373; Frame#= 36. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 3028 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.384; Frame#= 37. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #35 and this frame Time 00:00:00.384; Frame#= 37. Crc error SILENCED: read = E02F; calculated=8C7F Time 00:00:00.394; Frame#= 38. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 428 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.405; Frame#= 39. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #37 and this frame Time 00:00:00.405; Frame#= 39. Crc error SILENCED: read = 7D0B; calculated=7D78 Time 00:00:00.416; Frame#= 40. Unsynchronized frame...SKIPPED 716 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.426; Frame#= 41. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #39 and this frame Time 00:00:00.426; Frame#= 41. Crc error SILENCED: read = 9F3E; calculated=5FC6 Time 00:00:00.437; Frame#= 42. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 98 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.448; Frame#= 43. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #41 and this frame Time 00:00:00.448; Frame#= 43. Crc error SILENCED: read = F9F3; calculated=4D21 Time 00:00:00.458; Frame#= 44. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2426 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.469; Frame#= 45. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #43 and this frame Time 00:00:00.469; Frame#= 45. Crc error SILENCED: read = 256D; calculated=0F85 Time 00:00:00.480; Frame#= 46. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1738 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.490; Frame#= 47. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #45 and this frame Time 00:00:00.490; Frame#= 47. Crc error SILENCED: read = C1B0; calculated=1DD6 Time 00:00:00.501; Frame#= 48. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2842 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.512; Frame#= 49. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #47 and this frame Time 00:00:00.512; Frame#= 49. Crc error SILENCED: read = 7CF9; calculated=5FB1 Time 00:00:00.522; Frame#= 50. Unsynchronized frame...SKIPPED 654 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.533; Frame#= 51. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #49 and this frame Time 00:00:00.533; Frame#= 51. Crc error SILENCED: read = 51DB; calculated=D9A1 Time 00:00:00.544; Frame#= 52. Unsynchronized frame...SKIPPED 154 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.554; Frame#= 53. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #51 and this frame Time 00:00:00.554; Frame#= 53. Crc error SILENCED: read = 9671; calculated=4954 Time 00:00:00.565; Frame#= 54. Unsynchronized frame...SKIPPED 102 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.576; Frame#= 55. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #53 and this frame Time 00:00:00.576; Frame#= 55. Crc error SILENCED: read = F099; calculated=6DFE Time 00:00:00.586; Frame#= 56. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1178 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.597; Frame#= 57. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #55 and this frame Time 00:00:00.597; Frame#= 57. Crc error SILENCED: read = 4FFB; calculated=1418 Time 00:00:00.608; Frame#= 58. Unsynchronized frame...SKIPPED 90 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.618; Frame#= 59. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #57 and this frame Time 00:00:00.618; Frame#= 59. Crc error SILENCED: read = 7E92; calculated=759D Time 00:00:00.629; Frame#= 60. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 2686 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.640; Frame#= 61. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #59 and this frame Time 00:00:00.640; Frame#= 61. Crc error SILENCED: read = 986F; calculated=02B0 Time 00:00:00.650; Frame#= 62. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1060 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.661; Frame#= 63. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #61 and this frame Time 00:00:00.661; Frame#= 63. Crc error SILENCED: read = 007B; calculated=50A2 Time 00:00:00.672; Frame#= 64. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1932 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.682; Frame#= 65. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #63 and this frame Time 00:00:00.682; Frame#= 65. Crc error SILENCED: read = E069; calculated=53D2 Time 00:00:00.693; Frame#= 66. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1268 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.704; Frame#= 67. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #65 and this frame Time 00:00:00.704; Frame#= 67. Crc error SILENCED: read = E7CF; calculated=2E1C Time 00:00:00.714; Frame#= 68. Unsynchronized frame...REWINDED 1618 bytes. Found new synch word Time 00:00:00.725; Frame#= 69. Some basic parameters changed between Frame #67 and this frame Time 00:00:00.725; Frame#= 69. Crc error SILENCED: read = C328; calculated=441F Too Many Errors. Stop Logging. Number of written frames = 202844 Number of Errors= 607898 " then when i run it into eac3to again i get this "eac3to v2.45 command line: eac3to d:\temp\vc1\audio1_fixed.ddp d:\temp\vc1\audio.wavs -sonic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The format of the source file could not be detected. " I have searched for days now for answers and I am stumped if anyone can help me out i would really appreciate it. i also have my main audio file available from rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/114658575/audio1.part1.rar http://rapidshare.com/files/114652825/audio1.part2.rar |
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@OHB, your audio file is AC3 and not E-AC3. You can trust in what eac3to tells you about it. But you named the file "*.ddp". Now ddp stands for Dolby Digital Plus which is another term for E-AC3. That means you've named the file incorrectly. That doesn't matter for eac3to cause eac3to (mostly) ignores the file extension of source files. However, delaycut depends on the file having the correct file extension. So take the original audio file (*not* the one delaycut produced!), rename it to something.ac3 and then run it through delaycut again.
P.S: Furthermore you shouldn't really use Sonic for AC3 and E-AC3 decoding. Sonic is a bad decoder to use for that format (see first post of this thread). Use Nero or libav instead. Or just leave the decision to eac3to instead of forcing a specific decoder. |
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Is there a way you can leave the last end of sequence code in the file at the very end of the movie? I am asking because I like to let my istar hd 1.3 play a file right through then repeat and now where the end of sequence code is removed when encoding to mkv it just plays a black screen without audio or video after the movie finishes. ( I do this to make sure the movie plays all the way though before I watch anything with my wife. Too many bad movie nights with the 169time mod for directv for her to ever trust any high definition playback)
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Thanks for your reply. Yes, I intended just for the BD movies. But I still don't get the idea behind and I believed I must miss something here... So with this tool, I will able to convert the TrueHD audio to the format I mentioned before via SPDIF out to our receiver, right? So this is probably a solution for interim means before we are fully able to send TrueHD via HDMI 1.3 to receiver or someone just prefer without TrueHD receiver, right? Also, after the conversion completed, do we need to do another conversion to convert it back in order to send the TrueHD out? Thank you. |
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Audio conversion is needed for pc playback for 2 reasons:
1. No available directshow decoders for e-ac3, truehd, dts-hd 2. It's impossible to transmit these formats through spdif for decoding by the receiver. If you want to play your Blu-ray movies (either backed up on your hard disc as they are or directly from the discs) you don't need any conversions. Simply use powerdvd or another player and set audio output to hdmi. If you want to back up your blu-rays as a different format (matroska .mkv) and play them from your htpc, you need to use eac3to. If you just want to back up your blu-rays and also strip the extras from them (or unwanted audio streams) use tsmuxer (no audio conversions needed). If you want to create movie back ups with blu-ray structure from whatever source also use tsmuxer (perhaps you need to do some audio conversions). Last edited by nautilus7; 13th May 2008 at 22:54. |
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thanks for the help guys i got audio to ac3 using the main evo file. Thanks beastie boy. now im facing another little problem with getting audio to sync up with video in scenarist. im following the steps thoroughly changing the audio to 23.976 for vc1 but the output m2ts file has syncing issue
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Madshi,
I know Nero 8 has been discussed here previously, but I was wondering why eac3to is not able to use it's codecs. I am able to use them in GraphEdit to render most hidef files (like vc1, h264 - some times I have to change the extension to mpeg2). I just use 'File Source (Async)' -> 'Nero Video Decoder HD' -> 'Video Renderer'. The filter is located at 'Nero\DSFilter\NeVideoHD.ax". So why can't eac3to utilize Nero 8 filter's? Also, this may not be of interest to anyone, but a feature that I would like is an option to convert to wmv utilizing the Windows Media Video 9 Avanced Profile instead of mkv. I can find no use for mkv, whereas, wmv allows me to use Zune or WMP11 to play hi-def movies over my 802.11n wireless network with no degradation from my computer to my Xbox 360s. Right now converting mkv to wmv using Windows Media Encoder takes 12-16 hours for a single hi-def movie. I found another tool that can do it in 3-4 hours, but it costs $40 plus it is an additional step plus they will not allow me to move my license to another computer without paying for it again (). The WM SDK is free so it is just the time for coding it into eac3to. Any thoughts on this? Finally, the new changes for vob seem to be working well, but I am having a lot of issues with gaps and the audio being out of sync on various movies and TV shows. I have tried with and without gaps for the following DVD movies to no avail: Blade Runner, Escape from New York, RoboCop, Terminator and also TV show Stargate SG1 Season 6. Oddly, I had no problems with Stargate SG1 Season 5,8,9 (DVD structure looks the same as season 6) where gaps were detected and I reran eac3to to add them in. Just as a note Nero Recode was able to read and recode Season 6 with no problem, but it is 15x slower than eac3to. Thanks for all your work on a great and useful tool!
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By default, eac3to removes dialog normalization.
I convert my Audio-Files to AC3 5.1. The Source Files have dialnorm: -27db. For what is the remove? In my created AC3 the Dialog has other Volume? Why not take the default? |
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eac3to "path to movie folder" Find the titleset you want to demux from. eac3to "path to movie folder" #) Replace # with the number of the titleset you want. Now find the tracks listed you want to demux. eac3to "path to movie folder" #) #: movie.mkv -options #audio.ac3 -options #: chapters.txt Replace the new # with the number beside the tracks you want. Those should get you the tracks you want without having to type out the path and file names for the individual evo files. |
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If you go from eac3to to mkv, is the audio and video in sync? Are the times then reported correctly? |
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I just demuxed Nine Inch Nails: Ghosts I-IV and noticed that eac3to downsampled the audio from 96kHz to 48kHz when it was encoded to FLAC.
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When I last tried Nero 8, the audio decoder was not accessible outside of Nero ShowTime. Not in eac3to and also not in GraphEdit. If things changed then that is nice! But I'd like to have confirmation from at least 2 different persons about that before I take the time to install Nero 8 again... Quote:
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The log you posted does not indicate that downsampling was done. Why do you think that eac3to downsampled the audio? eac3to normally doesn't downsample unless you ask it to. Is the final FLAC file signaled as being 48kHz? If so, that's most probably a bug. And in that case probably the FLAC doesn't play correctly? |
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