Need help with strong halos, color bleed (EP16, Neon Genesis Evangelion) - Page 3

Katie Boundary · 11th October 2017, 18:55

I find it odd that there is no mention of the Renewal box set that was released in 2003. Seeing as how this was the "version" of the episode from which the Blu-Ray release was upscaled, why not upscale the Renewal release yourself using something like Spline144? That would solve the issue mentioned earlier...

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Originally Posted by jpsdr

Don't you think, instead of trying to fix the result of the upscale, it could be interesting to see if you can "revert" the upscale, and then after upscale with a better method ?
To see if you can revert the upscale, can't these fabulous filters of mine here be of any interest ?

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Originally Posted by sephirotic

Not a stupid question at all!

Those are a nice collection of filters. I actually tried using the famous Debilinear in different set of assumed original resolutions for the "BD" upscale of episode 16, results were pretty sharp but they were not free of artifacts so I assumed it wasn't a pure bilinear upscale and that the artifacts would do more harm than good.

If you don't have the Renewal box, I can send you the raw VOBs.

real.finder · 12th October 2017, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Katie Boundary

I find it odd that there is no mention of the Renewal box set that was released in 2003. Seeing as how this was the "version" of the episode from which the Blu-Ray release was upscaled, why not upscale the Renewal release yourself using something like Spline144? That would solve the issue mentioned earlier...

even if they don't have that edit (maybe they have it), I don't think it will be any better in this ep, Spline144 is not the best upscale btw

anyway, post some sample of the vob here to check

pwnsweet · 12th October 2017, 03:10

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Originally Posted by Katie Boundary

I find it odd that there is no mention of the Renewal box set that was released in 2003. Seeing as how this was the "version" of the episode from which the Blu-Ray release was upscaled, why not upscale the Renewal release yourself using something like Spline144? That would solve the issue mentioned earlier...

I can answer this one. We have the Renewal release but, like the Blu-ray release, it too has severe halos. The Blu-ray release and Renewal are the same, except the Blu-ray has slightly more detail so it makes sense to use it instead of the Renewal.

But there is another reason we chose to use Blu-ray and that is convenience. Before this project, Sephirotic ran a project to color correct and filter the Blu-ray release with the help of Fussoir, a well-known anime encoder. The script Fussoir wrote for the episode was extraordinary and accounts for primary and secondary halos, color bleed, aliasing etc - all on a per-scene basis. It's truly amazing. The end result is a highly tailored script resulting in a near-perfect image for basically every shot of the episode. Examples of this work are in the sample file linked in the OP (target 1-6). Sadly, contact with Fussoir has been lost and so we cannot ask him to write us another amazing script to filter the Archive which is why I've created this thread.

In light of this and with all the filtering work already done for the Blu-ray it doesn't make sense to use the Renewal.

Katie Boundary · 13th October 2017, 00:33

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Originally Posted by pwnsweet

The script Fussoir wrote for the episode was extraordinary and accounts for primary and secondary halos, color bleed, aliasing etc - all on a per-scene basis. It's truly amazing. The end result is a highly tailored script resulting in a near-perfect image for basically every shot of the episode.

So then why do you need Archive...?

pwnsweet · 13th October 2017, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Katie Boundary

So then why do you need Archive...?

The comment regarding 'near-perfect image' refers to halos and color bleed being nearly completely eliminated. However the BD/Renewal still suffers greatly from crushed blacks and other issues. That said, some scenes from the BD are still better than the Archive, but only some scenes. For the majority of scenes the Archive is better. So we need a good script to filter the Archive so that it matches the quality of Fussoir's filtered BD as closely as possible so that the final spliced result is as consistent in overall quality as possible.

jpsdr · 10th April 2018, 07:48

So, what is the actual status of this project ?

pwnsweet · 10th April 2018, 07:52

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Originally Posted by jpsdr

So, what is the actual status of this project ?

Basically finished. Just waiting on Sephi to apply the finishing touches and then we're done.

manofkuwait · 16th May 2019, 03:36

did you ever get those finishing touches?

gugglu · 16th May 2019, 11:44

hi , maybe this can help.

MCaWarpSharp3: by zee944.
This is a bit of all but it can be included in the line enhancer category.
It is perfect for those footages that look like seen through a lens (i.e. blurry, chroma aberrations, halo, etc) but it can also work for only blurry footage.
It is a bit extreme so use with caution.
It's also slow so my modification was mainly for speed improvements although I also reorganized everything a bit.

It's from Dogway slight mods

DL Link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ty30no...WarpSharp3.zip

jpsdr · 18th May 2019, 09:26

Yes, what the status of the project ?

pwnsweet · 24th May 2019, 16:13

Very close to completion and release. Thanks for your patience everyone!

henryperu77 · 16th June 2019, 03:53

where will be released it?

lansing · 26th June 2019, 18:46

I just started to watch this series in blu-ray yesterday and I noticed that the color of the characters are so inconsistent, for example, Asuka's hair color was changing every other scene as well as Misato's. I have a notion that maybe you guys can start a new project after this one to match all of them.

pwnsweet · 8th July 2019, 03:36

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Originally Posted by henryperu77

where will be released it?

The usual places

henryperu77 · 9th July 2019, 23:32

so its out? maybe you can tell where :P

manofkuwait · 22nd February 2020, 23:03

is this out now? would really love to finally have an ep.16 that doesn't look like trash

hagane003 · 3rd October 2020, 01:56

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Originally Posted by pwnsweet

The usual places

hello. thanks for doing this.

what do you mean by "the usual places"?

i think that maybe a lot of people has been stumbling upon this project without knowing where you're at.

or maybe i'm late and it's been released already. idk where to find info about this.

jpsdr · 3rd October 2020, 08:56

"usual places" will not be told here, several rules violations.
I have the feeling that unfortunately the project is dead...

ISmileAtYouuu · 3rd October 2020, 19:18

this is what i use for halos and color bleed might help you too:

Code:

video3 = SmoothD2(video1, ZWlmDark = 50, Qtype = 2, Matrix = 4, quant = 4)
video3 = DeHalo_alpha (video3, rx = 2.2, ry = 2.2, lowsens = 1, highsens = 2)
video3 = LSFmod (video3)
video3 = MCTemporalDenoise(video3, settings="medium")
video3 = LSFmod (video3, strength = 50)
video3 = AiUpscale (video1, Luma = "HQ", Width = 5760, Height = 2880)
video3 = DeHalo_alpha (video3, rx = 2.2, ry = 2.2, lowsens = 1, highsens = 2)
video3 = LSFmod (video3)

you could change this if the above smoothd2 isn't helping much:

Code:

SmoothD2(video1, ZWlmDark = 50, Qtype = 2, Matrix = 9, quant = 5)

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=181854

ognirats · 5th February 2022, 16:13

Any updates on the project?

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jpsdr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: France Posts: 2,316	"usual places" will not be told here, several rules violations. I have the feeling that unfortunately the project is dead... __________________ My github.

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manofkuwait Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2	did you ever get those finishing touches?

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gugglu Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nottingham Posts: 44	hi , maybe this can help. MCaWarpSharp3: by zee944. This is a bit of all but it can be included in the line enhancer category. It is perfect for those footages that look like seen through a lens (i.e. blurry, chroma aberrations, halo, etc) but it can also work for only blurry footage. It is a bit extreme so use with caution. It's also slow so my modification was mainly for speed improvements although I also reorganized everything a bit. It's from Dogway slight mods DL Link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ty30no...WarpSharp3.zip

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pwnsweet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 101	Very close to completion and release. Thanks for your patience everyone!

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henryperu77 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49	where will be released it?

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lansing Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,657	I just started to watch this series in blu-ray yesterday and I noticed that the color of the characters are so inconsistent, for example, Asuka's hair color was changing every other scene as well as Misato's. I have a notion that maybe you guys can start a new project after this one to match all of them.

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henryperu77 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 49	so its out? maybe you can tell where :P

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manofkuwait Registered User Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2	is this out now? would really love to finally have an ep.16 that doesn't look like trash

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ognirats Registered User Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 30	Any updates on the project?