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But it does effect the validation (after you exit from calibration mode). I don't like DTM either. I even made comparison images which show that DolbyVision and HDR10 look much closer to each other than DV and HDR+DTM. Most of the time, DTM simply makes everything brighter (especially dark scenes). If you need mental support for the task, just keep in mind that HDR10 and DV need the exact same 1DLUT but CalMAN won't allow you to copy it. |
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Oh that just stung! It created a really nice one for HDR. Oh well. Let's see it do it again. LMAO
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Well, CalMAN gives us the 1DLUT in a CSV file after DV calibration, so we could theoretically copy that to HDR10 with DeviceControl after some external formatting. Last edited by janos666; 20th November 2019 at 14:47. |
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That's true I suppose. The whole thing is moot at the moment as no matter what I do I can't get it into dv with anything but a black screen. I'm going to post some screen shots later off my integral 2 gui and see if you can see what I'm doing wrong. No matter what I try I just get a black screen. Sigh.
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Yep, it needs to be turned off during calibration/verification.
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Hmm... If you find out how to experiment with this *without* Calman (only using free utils), don't hesitate to let us know Thanks!
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By no-op, I mean it doesn't do anything when you activate the Calibration (bypass/passthrough) mode with the DDC control. So, SamuriHL doesn't have to repeat the calibration process.
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That's my interface to the Integral 2. It's not hooked up in those pictures but I'm wondering what options I need to set and where to get DV to work. Any help?
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The manual claims you just set the DV Force Metadata checkbox in auto and it should work. That so far has not been the case for me. Sadly. I'm on the latest firmware, latest GUI and it's just not working. Which sucks. That's one of the big reasons I decided to buy one. I have other uses for it but that's why I decided to get it now rather than wait.
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I see no reason why I don't get Rec2020 with 1080p24 but do get it with 2160p30. Or why 2160p60 doesn't work at all with AMD... So, experiment and ask around... |
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Trust me, I went through all the resolution/refresh rate combinations I could think of and I couldn't get it to work. I asked in the thread you sent me to for the HD Fury and no answer. I also asked in the Calman for LG thread and no answer. So at this point it just seems like I'm SOL. I can keep trying but it doesn't seem to want to work. My SHIELD and UB820 pass through DV just fine so I know DV is working for devices that support it. I've tried capturing the EDID info from that and passing that using the res they set...nada. I'm at a loss on this. And it's frustrating as hell.
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Incidentally, I don't think LG DTM is a noop in calibration mode, unfortunately. I was curious so I ran another calibration with it off. And that area that it struggled with yesterday within the curve was almost dead on. I'm of the opinion that the stupid thing should be permanently disabled. I know some of you like it, but, man it REALLY screws with the middle of the curve...whether it needs to or not.
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BAHAHAHA, you are a mad genius, sir. I took my 3dlut from my last HDR calibration, went into Calman and reset the Dolby Vision Home Cinema profile. And then I loaded the 3dlut from my HDR calibration. Now, the beauty of what I did next is that I can cheat to compare the two. I have the Spears and Munsil UHD demo disc and a UB820. I played the Dolby Vision 10k nit version on the UB820 and then immediately ran the HDR 10k nit version in tonemapped madvr. The results are strikingly similar. LOL What an absolutely gorgeous picture this is now. I like calibration! That'll suffice for now. Obviously I want to solve the DV metadata issue with the fury but for now I'm pleased with the result.
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But when I updated to 05.10.35 I did a factory reset and tried these scenes with default technicolor, cinema and cinema home presets (just dynamic tone mapping turned off) and the issues with cyan/magenta were still there. By the way the pics I posted just had 2P WB adjustments made via service menu, everything else was default, no CMS and no 20P adjustments... |
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Why didn't you go for the cheaper models, e.g. gz950? (SoC should be the same, note that I don't know anything about Panasonic OLEDs) If you'll have the time and in the mood, can you test PC mode thoroughly with the Panasonic and gather up the result in a post like this? Thanks!
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-The GZ2000 apparently has some custom cooling solution, which is basically just a metal plate attached directly to the backplane I think. This allows it to clear temporary image retention much faster than standard Oled panels, there are youtube videos about this. I think this might make it more stable for 3D Lut profiling and maybe it also somewhat increases panel lifetime. - The build quality is better, the panel is much stiffer and thicker than the standard Oled panels. I'm using a rollable TV stand and often roll it around and have it forward tilted when I want to watch from bed. The C8 panel is very wobbly in comparison. Also this is my first Oled that doesn't have a slightly bent panel, none of the LG's I had were perfectly straight.... - I didn't pay anywhere close to MSRP, it was only slightly above what my C8 cost. - It is also a bit brighter than the lower range GZ TVs, I don't care too much about this but why not... Quote:
Also as you know there is 3:2 pulldown so I would have to use 60Hz and enable madVRs smooth motion and this for some reason causes very noticeable flicker on scrolling credits when watching HDR movies. But maybe some time when I feel like it I'm gonna test it more thoroughly.. Last edited by j82k; 21st November 2019 at 13:46. |
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