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Edit: there's a neat test on that page where they send an alternating 24p signal to the screen and take a long exposure photograph. If there is judder, it shows up in the photo as a bias towards one of the two frames. Neat! Last edited by wonkey_monkey; 21st March 2020 at 10:15. |
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Why do you say that? There were some very fine TVs sold in 2018.
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It pretty much is if you put two displays side by side. One with a 60Hz refresh rate and one with a refresh rate that's a multiple of 24Hz and show content with motion and pans in them they will quickly realize they don't look the same if told to compare them. They probably won't be able to tell you why, but they will see the difference. |
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because in 2018 samsung didn't produce a lot of 120 HZ panels and samsung is pretty much the biggest producer of VA panels leaving you with mostly 120 Hz IPS.
does that mean all TV are bad? no clue why you would come to the conclusion. |
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@markfilipak,
Out of interest... What device are you using to play your media files? And what's your Sharp TV's model number?
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Yes they do...
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You saying all TVs support 50Hz? Are you sure?
Very recent TVs do seem to support 50Hz most of the time but I would still not assume they all do. Maybe it is simply very cheap ones that don't care, and not some region locking nonsense. Using refresh rate support for region locking is hopefully out of date today.
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Well, of course! I was only talking about US TVs. Region locking by not supporting 50 Hz wouldn't make any sense with TVs sold in Europe.
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As far as I know... All 'smart' Panasonic and LG televisions sold worldwide are capable of supporting 50Hz. Although the feature might be locked out and will require a visit to the service menu.
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I have an el cheapo Panasonic TV with an Innolux MVA panel. My NV Shield is set to 24 FPS and when I switch to it, my TV reports 24 Hz. Not sure whether it is true 24 Hz or it upconverts. Regardless, all looks fine here
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panasonic well that's easy to test.
just actived pure direct mode and it can't do 24 HZ correctly anymore that's by design don't ask me why. cheap version are sometimes just that brand in name but produce by someone else but still relative easy test. there are other ways to test this but i'm not going into that. |
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I know that the budget models are produced by the Turkish Vestel but mine is actually made by Panasonic itself in the Czech Republic. I do not use Pure/Pixel Direct as it makes the picture worse. I'm not too concerned with doing native 24 Hz or not. As long as it looks good to me, I'm happy
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I meant accept the format as input and have an entry for it in their EDID. Sorry, I didn't think some TVs lacking support for 50Hz would be controversial. There used to be many TVs sold in the US that would not accept a 50 Hz signal at all, no attempt to display an image when provided with a 50Hz signal. Maybe this is no longer true, and all TVs sold in the US support 50Hz input, but I wouldn't assume that without first making sure if you need 50Hz. Historically 50 Hz support has been surprisingly bad in the US.
On that same note, I also would not be surprised if some TVs that do support 50Hz input end up displaying it with a 60 or 120 Hz refresh rate. I don't have any examples of this though, hopefully it isn't true.
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I may be wrong, but a panel with eg. 120Hz max refresh rate is not fixed to it (or doesn't have to). It can operate at anything lower as well. It's up to manufacture to give such an ability or not. It's even more true for monitors which support adaptive sync. If I'm correct this seems to be coming to TVs as well (not only gaming monitors).
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The organisations controlling the development and distribution of DVD including how their images are transported from player to display, were and still are... pretty anal!
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