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Old 4th March 2010, 04:59   #7121  |  Link
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^I honestly have no idea. And I don't have time to rent and watch the Groundhog Day BD, so I can't really investigate anything.

My suggestions.

1) Look at the videos and see what's different about each of them. Resolution, Framerate, audio track, etc.

2) Try creating a custom blu-ray with just the special feature video (recompressed, of course) and see if your player plays it. The problem may be the BD menu structure and not the video.
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Old 4th March 2010, 05:02   #7122  |  Link
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Batch Mode Language Problems

Using 0.32.05 I have English Language & English Subtitles selected by default to keep. Last night I ran Run Lola Run & La Femme Nikita in batch mode, selecting the German & French track & unselecting the English dubbed track on both. However the final output had the English track on both. These were Movie Only to BD5 output. I haven't tried them 1 at a time yet. Wonder if this is a batch mode problem.
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Old 4th March 2010, 05:31   #7123  |  Link
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Using 0.32.05 I have English Language & English Subtitles selected by default to keep. Last night I ran Run Lola Run & La Femme Nikita in batch mode, selecting the German & French track & unselecting the English dubbed track on both. However the final output had the English track on both. These were Movie Only to BD5 output. I haven't tried them 1 at a time yet. Wonder if this is a batch mode problem.
Hmmm... could be. The way I'm trying to keep the audio selections in batch is a little messy. I'll take a relook.
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Old 4th March 2010, 07:43   #7124  |  Link
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I'm a newbie to this stuff as well as this forum. So please try to be understanding if I am missing some things that seem elementary to you guys.

The video part of my backup of Batman, The Dark Knight is failing to play on both my PC and my PS3. (Interestingly, if I go to the working files and open the stream, the movie plays on VLC with no problems).

When inserted in the computer the, Power DVD 9 comes up, and the disc copy seems to start fine. But as soon as the WB Home Video logo, and Age Warning logo is over, the image becomes differant shades of gray and magnified and stretched so that only the far left half or so of the screen is shown on the monitor. Throughout the movie the entire image is differant shades of pale gray, with, sometimes some tints of light blue. This pale gray picture and partial image renders the movie unwatchable.

Frustratingly, audio remaions fine and all the special features as well as the disc menu and navigation controls seem to work, with the image being clear and the colors correct when I trigger the appropriate special feature. But, the playback of the actual movie stays pale gray and distorted.

When I try to play the same copy in the PS3 the audio comes through, but after all the pre-movie screens are over, instewad of pale gray, the screen goes completely dark. Similar to the computer playback, I get full audio.. but instead of a grayed out streched partial image I get on the computer, I get absolutely no video image (the screen remains dark). Just like the computer, on the PS 3 I can again pull up the navigation bar and jump around to differant scenes as well as the special features, but this time (unlike the computer) when I go to the "special features" I get the audio and a dark screen.

Incidently, when I went to the computer after the BD-R process was complete there was only a Windows message over the Power DVD 9 welcome screen saying something to the nature that "The DVD was stopped because the graphics card was not adequate". Also, if I go into the "working files" directory and pull up the movie stream, then everything plays fine in VLC!?!

I have tried reinstalling and so far have burned two disks.. only to get the same results.

My computer is a Gateway SX-2840 with an Intel Core i3 CPU (530@2.93 GHZ 4 MB L3 cache) and has 6GB of DDR3 Ram. The computer is new, and completely unmodified except for a Pioneer BDR-205 which I swapped into the old DVD tray.

I still need to learn about how to save these back-ups to hard disk array so I can set up my entertainment system properly and retrieve my media from a server, and I'm also interested in exploring other aspects of this program, like precisely which of the audio options need to be checked in order to preserve the true HD audio of the discs, but all I care about right now is getting the BD-25 to work. That, to me, would be quite an accomplishment.

Any help in non tech wording would be greatly appreciated by this novice.

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Old 4th March 2010, 13:19   #7125  |  Link
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Sorry I'm late with this jdobbs, but that was an AnyDVD rip. It did something i never saw before... asked me where i wante to save the files or something so i picked the same folder the rip was in.... i have my suspicions that it wiped the folder, and my rip, and thus failed. I am using different folders this time to see if i get a different result. Also, i did a DVDFab rip and my computer crashed every time i tried to convert that rip.
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Old 4th March 2010, 18:50   #7126  |  Link
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jdobbs, thanks, worked like a charm, but a have a problem with some extras in Fast and Furius, the video is black a here a red the subtitles but no video, Thanks mi amigo..

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[14:24:29] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
  - Source:  FAST_AND_FURIOUS
  - Input BD size: 45,33 GB
  - Approximate total content: [04:16:36.180]
  - Target BD size: 22,66 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[14:24:34] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [14:24:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00238]
 - [14:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00238 (1 of 36)
 - [14:24:34] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
 - [14:24:34] Reencoding: VID_00238, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:24:48] Video Encode complete
 - [14:24:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:24:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:24:48] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00236]
 - [14:24:49] Reencoding: VID_00236 (2 of 36)
 - [14:24:49] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
 - [14:24:49] Reencoding: VID_00236, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:24:57] Video Encode complete
 - [14:24:57] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:24:57] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:24:58] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00237]
 - [14:24:58] Reencoding: VID_00237 (3 of 36)
 - [14:24:58] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 191 frames
 - [14:24:58] Reencoding: VID_00237, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:25:06] Video Encode complete
 - [14:25:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:25:06] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:25:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00078]
 - [14:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00078 (4 of 36)
 - [14:25:09] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.128 frames
 - [14:25:09] Reencoding: VID_00078, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:26:07] Video Encode complete
 - [14:26:07] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:26:07] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:26:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00061]
 - [14:26:11] Reencoding: VID_00061 (5 of 36)
 - [14:26:11] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.296 frames
 - [14:26:11] Reencoding: VID_00061, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:27:18] Video Encode complete
 - [14:27:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:27:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:27:20] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00050]
 - [14:27:22] Reencoding: VID_00050 (6 of 36)
 - [14:27:22] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.465 frames
 - [14:27:22] Reencoding: VID_00050, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:28:37] Video Encode complete
 - [14:28:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:28:37] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:28:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00062]
 - [14:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00062 (7 of 36)
 - [14:28:44] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.560 frames
 - [14:28:44] Reencoding: VID_00062, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:30:06] Video Encode complete
 - [14:30:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:30:06] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:30:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00064]
 - [14:30:13] Reencoding: VID_00064 (8 of 36)
 - [14:30:13] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 1.978 frames
 - [14:30:13] Reencoding: VID_00064, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:31:52] Video Encode complete
 - [14:31:52] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:31:52] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:31:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00212]
 - [14:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00212 (9 of 36)
 - [14:32:01] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 7.530 frames
 - [14:32:01] Reencoding: VID_00212, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:33:48] Video Encode complete
 - [14:33:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:33:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:33:50] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00214]
 - [14:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00214 (10 of 36)
 - [14:33:55] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.064 frames
 - [14:33:55] Reencoding: VID_00214, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:36:11] Video Encode complete
 - [14:36:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:36:11] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:36:13] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00225]
 - [14:36:21] Reencoding: VID_00225 (11 of 36)
 - [14:36:21] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 2.532 frames
 - [14:36:21] Reencoding: VID_00225, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:37:50] Video Encode complete
 - [14:37:50] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:37:50] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:37:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00202]
 - [14:37:57] Reencoding: VID_00202 (12 of 36)
 - [14:37:57] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.616 frames
 - [14:37:57] Reencoding: VID_00202, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:40:11] Video Encode complete
 - [14:40:11] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:40:11] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:40:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00215]
 - [14:40:25] Reencoding: VID_00215 (13 of 36)
 - [14:40:25] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.144 frames
 - [14:40:25] Reencoding: VID_00215, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:44:00] Video Encode complete
 - [14:44:00] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:44:00] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:44:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00228]
 - [14:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00228 (14 of 36)
 - [14:44:16] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 3.924 frames
 - [14:44:16] Reencoding: VID_00228, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:46:29] Video Encode complete
 - [14:46:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:46:29] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:46:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00216]
 - [14:46:40] Reencoding: VID_00216 (15 of 36)
 - [14:46:40] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 3.192 frames
 - [14:46:40] Reencoding: VID_00216, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:50:08] Video Encode complete
 - [14:50:08] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:50:08] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:50:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00221]
 - [14:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00221 (16 of 36)
 - [14:50:26] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.342 frames
 - [14:50:26] Reencoding: VID_00221, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:52:54] Video Encode complete
 - [14:52:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:52:54] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:52:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00217]
 - [14:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00217 (17 of 36)
 - [14:53:12] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 5.340 frames
 - [14:53:12] Reencoding: VID_00217, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:56:15] Video Encode complete
 - [14:56:15] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:56:15] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:56:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00224]
 - [14:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00224 (18 of 36)
 - [14:56:31] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.634 frames
 - [14:56:31] Reencoding: VID_00224, Pass 1 of 1
 - [14:59:09] Video Encode complete
 - [14:59:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [14:59:09] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:59:11] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00223]
 - [14:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00223 (19 of 36)
 - [14:59:25] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.681 frames
 - [14:59:25] Reencoding: VID_00223, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:02:03] Video Encode complete
 - [15:02:03] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:02:03] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:02:04] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00220]
 - [15:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00220 (20 of 36)
 - [15:02:22] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.763 frames
 - [15:02:22] Reencoding: VID_00220, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:05:04] Video Encode complete
 - [15:05:04] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:05:04] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:05:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00226]
 - [15:05:21] Reencoding: VID_00226 (21 of 36)
 - [15:05:21] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 4.855 frames
 - [15:05:21] Reencoding: VID_00226, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:08:06] Video Encode complete
 - [15:08:06] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:08:06] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:08:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00211]
 - [15:08:29] Reencoding: VID_00211 (22 of 36)
 - [15:08:29] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 5.250 frames
 - [15:08:29] Reencoding: VID_00211, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:11:28] Video Encode complete
 - [15:11:28] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:11:28] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:11:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00219]
 - [15:11:51] Reencoding: VID_00219 (23 of 36)
 - [15:11:51] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.106 frames
 - [15:11:52] Reencoding: VID_00219, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:15:17] Video Encode complete
 - [15:15:17] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:15:17] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:15:19] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00207]
 - [15:15:43] Reencoding: VID_00207 (24 of 36)
 - [15:15:43] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 6.900 frames
 - [15:15:44] Reencoding: VID_00207, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:19:39] Video Encode complete
 - [15:19:39] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:19:39] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:19:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [15:20:07] Reencoding: VID_00011 (25 of 36)
 - [15:20:07] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 9.000 frames
 - [15:20:08] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:25:09] Video Encode complete
 - [15:25:09] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:25:09] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:25:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00205]
 - [15:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00205 (26 of 36)
 - [15:25:39] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 8.970 frames
 - [15:25:39] Reencoding: VID_00205, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:30:40] Video Encode complete
 - [15:30:40] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:30:40] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:30:42] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00204]
 - [15:31:28] Reencoding: VID_00204 (27 of 36)
 - [15:31:28] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 12.450 frames
 - [15:31:28] Reencoding: VID_00204, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:38:29] Video Encode complete
 - [15:38:29] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:38:29] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:38:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00227]
 - [15:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00227 (28 of 36)
 - [15:39:20] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 13.209 frames
 - [15:39:20] Reencoding: VID_00227, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:46:48] Video Encode complete
 - [15:46:48] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:46:48] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:46:51] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00222]
 - [15:47:45] Reencoding: VID_00222 (29 of 36)
 - [15:47:45] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 13.948 frames
 - [15:47:46] Reencoding: VID_00222, Pass 1 of 1
 - [15:55:37] Video Encode complete
 - [15:55:37] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [15:55:37] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:55:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00218]
 - [15:56:43] Reencoding: VID_00218 (30 of 36)
 - [15:56:43] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 14.780 frames
 - [15:56:44] Reencoding: VID_00218, Pass 1 of 1
 - [16:05:05] Video Encode complete
 - [16:05:05] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [16:05:05] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:05:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00206]
 - [16:06:15] Reencoding: VID_00206 (31 of 36)
 - [16:06:15] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 17.700 frames
 - [16:06:16] Reencoding: VID_00206, Pass 1 of 1
 - [16:16:13] Video Encode complete
 - [16:16:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [16:16:13] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:16:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00208]
 - [16:17:22] Reencoding: VID_00208 (32 of 36)
 - [16:17:22] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 17.610 frames
 - [16:17:23] Reencoding: VID_00208, Pass 1 of 1
 - [16:27:18] Video Encode complete
 - [16:27:18] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [16:27:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:27:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00209]
 - [16:28:39] Reencoding: VID_00209 (33 of 36)
 - [16:28:40] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 19.830 frames
 - [16:28:40] Reencoding: VID_00209, Pass 1 of 1
 - [16:39:51] Video Encode complete
 - [16:39:51] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [16:39:51] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:39:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00210]
 - [16:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00210 (34 of 36)
 - [16:41:24] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 20.460 frames
 - [16:41:24] Reencoding: VID_00210, Pass 1 of 1
 - [16:52:54] Video Encode complete
 - [16:52:54] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [16:52:54] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [16:52:56] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00203]
 - [16:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00203 (35 of 36)
 - [16:53:57] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 29.328 frames
 - [16:53:57] Reencoding: VID_00203, Pass 1 of 1
 - [17:30:24] Video Encode complete
 - [17:30:24] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [17:30:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:32:27] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
 - [17:43:33] Reencoding: VID_00010 (36 of 36)
 - [17:43:33] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: VC-1, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 153.744 frames
 - [17:43:33] Performing CRF Prediction...
   - Analyzing 18,76 34,38 24,17 21,37 21,07 [21,04]
 - [18:06:15] Encoding using constant rate factor.
 - [23:21:45] Video Encode complete
 - [23:21:45] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:21:45] Multiplexing M2TS
[23:32:43]PHASE ONE complete
[23:32:43]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [23:32:43] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[23:33:58] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[23:33:58]JOB: FAST_AND_FURIOUS finished.

Last edited by ftb32; 6th March 2010 at 21:16. Reason: no work in ps3???
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Old 4th March 2010, 18:54   #7127  |  Link
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jdobbs;
I have tested BD-RBV03205 on a full backup to BD-25 of The Matrix, Region A, with some interesting results. It has Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD and PiP/DDPlus secondary audio, many subtitle tracks and 4 audio commentary tracks.
Test 1 was to keep only the Dolby Digital 5.1 main audio, all four commentary tracks and all subtitle tracks, and the PiP/DDPlus secondary audio. Removed only the non-english audio tracks.
Play back on TMT3 from folders and image has the mixed/garbled audio, as if it is trying to play both main and secondary audio at the same time. The original rip does not do this.
( Not a big deal to me, just reporting the find ) All subtitles work properly, including the secondary video/audio subtitle track.
PowerDVD 7.3 plays back fine.

Test 2 was to keep only the TrueHD and the secondary DDPlus audio, and only the two english subtitle tracks, the main and the secondary PiP video/audio subtitles, removing all non-english audio and the four audio commentary tracks as well as the many non-english subtitle tracks. ( about 700+MB of subtitle tracks and 748MB; four x 187MB ea. audio tracks )
Tested again with same software players and this time TMT3 plays audio perfectly for main audio track but when playing the secondary track, no sound is heard. Also, no secondary subtitle track displays.
PowerDVD, when played from image, works fine though for the main audio and the secondary video/audio! However, there are no secondary subtitles displayed regardless if I turn them on/off manually.

I know software players are buggy, and I do no more than test on them before burning to disc. But what I am wondering is by removing several subtitle tracks after the kept english main track but before the secondary video/audio subtitle track, from its original order, it appears BD-RB did not re-adjust the subtitle order or re-associate the secondary video/audio subtitle track to its new position when I select to play the In-Movie experience from the menu!
When all subtitles were kept, it worked properly.
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Old 4th March 2010, 20:23   #7128  |  Link
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I have tested BD-RBV03205 on a full backup to BD-25 of The Matrix, Region A, with some interesting results. It has Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby TrueHD and PiP/DDPlus secondary audio, many subtitle tracks and 4 audio commentary tracks.
Test 1 was to keep only the Dolby Digital 5.1 main audio, all four commentary tracks and all subtitle tracks, and the PiP/DDPlus secondary audio. Removed only the non-english audio tracks.
Play back on TMT3 from folders and image has the mixed/garbled audio, as if it is trying to play both main and secondary audio at the same time. The original rip does not do this.
( Not a big deal to me, just reporting the find ) All subtitles work properly, including the secondary video/audio subtitle track.
PowerDVD 7.3 plays back fine.

Test 2 was to keep only the TrueHD and the secondary DDPlus audio, and only the two english subtitle tracks, the main and the secondary PiP video/audio subtitles, removing all non-english audio and the four audio commentary tracks as well as the many non-english subtitle tracks. ( about 700+MB of subtitle tracks and 748MB; four x 187MB ea. audio tracks )
Tested again with same software players and this time TMT3 plays audio perfectly for main audio track but when playing the secondary track, no sound is heard. Also, no secondary subtitle track displays.
PowerDVD, when played from image, works fine though for the main audio and the secondary video/audio! However, there are no secondary subtitles displayed regardless if I turn them on/off manually.

I know software players are buggy, and I do no more than test on them before burning to disc. But what I am wondering is by removing several subtitle tracks after the kept english main track but before the secondary video/audio subtitle track, from its original order, it appears BD-RB did not re-adjust the subtitle order or re-associate the secondary video/audio subtitle track to its new position when I select to play the In-Movie experience from the menu!
When all subtitles were kept, it worked properly.
wonder if its worth adding dummy blank sub tracks in place of the removed ones. That will save space and keep everything aligned?
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^I honestly have no idea. And I don't have time to rent and watch the Groundhog Day BD, so I can't really investigate anything.

My suggestions.

1) Look at the videos and see what's different about each of them. Resolution, Framerate, audio track, etc.

2) Try creating a custom blu-ray with just the special feature video (recompressed, of course) and see if your player plays it. The problem may be the BD menu structure and not the video.
Hi Revgen,

I did the first part of your suggestion using BDInfo. I will post the results here. Maybe you can help me make some sense of it.

Main Movie - MPEG4 AVC 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/ High Profile 4.1. Movie works great.

Special feature 1 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17737 kbps
Special feature 2 - MPEG 2 480i/29.970 fps/4:3/5796 kbps
Special feature 3 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17749 kbps
These special feature freeze the menu when selected. Subsequently the features don't ever play.

All testing done on original movie rip using AnyDVD (not transcoded).

I don't know if any of this info will help to detemine the problem I have but I appreciate you (or anyone else) looking at it and offering a solution.

And not sure how to do the second part of your suggestion.

Thanks!

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wonder if its worth adding dummy blank sub tracks in place of the removed ones. That will save space and keep everything aligned?
I could do that, and possible get this disc to work, but more important is why BD-RB doesn't make the necessary corrections. If jdobbs is made aware of instances like this, he will likely make the fix so all of us beta testers can benefit.
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Hi Revgen,

I did the first part of your suggestion using BDInfo. I will post the results here. Maybe you can help me make some sense of it.

Main Movie - MPEG4 AVC 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/ High Profile 4.1. Movie works great.

Special feature 1 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17737 kbps
Special feature 2 - MPEG 2 480i/29.970 fps/4:3/5796 kbps
Special feature 3 - MPEG 2 1080p/23.976 fps/16:9/17749 kbps
These special feature freeze the menu when selected. Subsequently the features don't ever play.

All testing done on original movie rip using AnyDVD (not transcoded).

I don't know if any of this info will help to detemine the problem I have but I appreciate you (or anyone else) looking at it and offering a solution.

And not sure how to do the second part of your suggestion.

Thanks!
If the special features are freezing and the main movie is not, then it may a problem with the MPEG-2. Pehaps you could re-encode them to X264?
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If the special features are freezing and the main movie is not, then it may a problem with the MPEG-2. Pehaps you could re-encode them to X264?
Thanks for the reply Revgen.

I am going to open a new thread for my issue. Can you respond to my questions there?

Thanks!

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Receiving Error when ripping Movie Only on Sin City (BD - Region 1).

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BD Rebuilder experienced an error  1605[21:24:49] ExtractedAudioSubs() 00053 1605
I only flagged the DTS HD XLL audio track.

Here is the BD-Rebuilder "Program Window Log":
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[21:04:03] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
  - Source:  SIN_CITY_D1
  - Input BD size: 26.87 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
  - Target BD size: 58.59 GB
  - Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:04:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:04:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
   - Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
 - [21:24:49] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053  1605
 - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
 - Muxing time: 20 min 44 sec
[21:36:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
Any thoughts?
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Receiving Error when ripping Movie Only on Sin City (BD - Region 1).

Code:
BD Rebuilder experienced an error  1605[21:24:49] ExtractedAudioSubs() 00053 1605
I only flagged the DTS HD XLL audio track.

Here is the BD-Rebuilder "Program Window Log":
Code:
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[21:04:03] BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 (beta)
  - Source:  SIN_CITY_D1
  - Input BD size: 26.87 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:04:03.685]
  - Target BD size: 58.59 GB
  - Windows Version: 5.1 [2600]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[21:04:03] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:04:03] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00614]
   - Extracting A/V to M2TS [VID_00614]
 - [21:24:49] ExtractAudioSubs() 00053  1605
 - Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
 - Muxing time: 20 min 44 sec
[21:36:10] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
Any thoughts?
Why are you trying for 58.59GB Target Size?
It looks like this movie is only slightly over a BD-25, so unless you plan to burn to BD-R DL, why not change to a target size of BD-25, remove any unnecessary audio tracks and try again.
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Why are you trying for 58.59GB Target Size?
It looks like this movie is only slightly over a BD-25, so unless you plan to burn to BD-R DL, why not change to a target size of BD-25, remove any unnecessary audio tracks and try again.
I choose 60GB to ensure there is no compressed video. I'm using BD-Rebuilder instead of ClownBD to rip movies to a server. I'm not burning to BD-R or BD-R DL.
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Is there going to be an option to use ImageBurn to ISO? Currently I only see ImageBurn to Disc.
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Is there going to be an option to use ImageBurn to ISO? Currently I only see ImageBurn to Disc.
This is not really a BD-RB issue. If you do not want to reduce the size of the movie, just rip to image with AnyDVDHD. Or, as an alternative, rip to folders with AnyDVDHD then just use IMGBurn to create an image of those folders. Either way, it will be original quality and take less time.
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This is not really a BD-RB issue. If you do not want to reduce the size of the movie, just rip to image with AnyDVDHD. Or, as an alternative, rip to folders with AnyDVDHD then just use IMGBurn to create an image of those folders. Either way, it will be original quality and take less time.
Either I'm way ahead of the curve or people drank some bad Kool-Aid.

I want the Movie Only with 1 Audio Track, and English Subtitles. I do not want to compress the video of the movie which is why I put my custom size higher to 60GB to *ensure* there is no compression of the movie video.

Then to make things nice and tidy, I would like to have the movie stored as an ISO. With my technique I am saving 9-20GB of space while preserving the movie and English audio track quality.

So instead of having approximately 40 BD movies (AnyDVD ISO only) on a 2.25TB Raid 5 NAS vs. approx 70-80 BD movies (AnyDVD+BD-Rebuilder ISO).

When played back with a Dune Player, the movie starts within 5 seconds. No waiting, no menus, just watching the movie.
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I can add that easy enough. It's virtually the same command line. I'll make the output always go to the working directory.
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Hi, I’ve just done a full backup of District 9 on Bd-25 with settings, quicker encode for extras, custom target size 23900mb. The file size that BD Rebuilder created was 22.9 GB; the film size was 10.5 GB and the extras 12.4 GB, is this normal as the extras on the District 9 rip are about 13 GB, hardly any compression. I’m using BD Rebuilder v0.32.05 with ffdshow 3133
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