xy-VSFilter Project (High Performance VSFilter Compatible Subtitle Filters)

[sneaker_ger]

Maybe it is expecting UTF-8?
Try UTF-8 version: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9t63rz

[a8213711]

Originally Posted by sneaker_ger

Maybe it is expecting UTF-8?
Try UTF-8 version: https://www.sendspace.com/file/9t63rz

Thank you, that worked, but how did you convert it? How can I know if the next file require this conversion? Can I ask to implement a way to support file like this like in VLC?

[sneaker_ger]

There are different ways to encode text files. It seems like VLC has some kind of clever automatic detection while xy-vsfilter/XySubFilter do not. You can of course ask for a more clever detection but the development seems to be stalled so I would not expect much.

To detect such files you can open them in an editor like Notepad++. Click "Encoding"->"Encode in UTF-8 without BOM" and then see if diacritic and other special characters are displayed correctly. If yes, you do not need to do anything. If they are not displayed correctly, try "Encoding"->"Encode in ANSI" (or one of the other encodings, there are a lot to choose from). Once you have found an encoding that results in diacritics being displayed correctly, you click "Encoding"->"Convert to UTF-8 without BOM" and save the file. Now it should work.

P.S.: Just "UTF-8" is UTF-8 with a BOM. That's basically a small info at the beginning of the file that marks the encoding. Some software can read it and use it for better detection, other software has problems with it. xy-vsfilter/XySubFilter can probably handle both variations just fine so it does not really matter whether you save with or without BOM.

[SecurityBunny]

Does anyone happen to know if development will ever kick back up again or whether a suitable replacement is in the works? I've got a file that lags at certain parts with XySubFilter but not with MPC-HC's built-in subtitle renderer.

[amayra]

Originally Posted by SecurityBunny

Does anyone happen to know if development will ever kick back up again or whether a suitable replacement is in the works? I've got a file that lags at certain parts with XySubFilter but not with MPC-HC's built-in subtitle renderer.

you can try AssFilterMod i think this what you need

[clsid]

Originally Posted by SecurityBunny

but not with MPC-HC's built-in subtitle renderer.

I think you answered your own question...

[SecurityBunny]

Originally Posted by amayra

you can try AssFilterMod i think this what you need

While AssFilter doesn't lag in the part XySubFilter does, subtitles do not appear to be smooth when they are scrolling / moving across the screen. It appears to stutter, whereas Xy and built-in renderer do not.

Originally Posted by clsid

I think you answered your own question...

Perhaps, but the built-in renderer does not appear to be as smooth for heavily stylized and typesetted subtitles in the background. As well as drops the render queue size from a stable 8/8 to 3-5/8 when heavy typesetting occurs. Doesn't fix itself until you pause and play again. XySubFilter, besides lagging in a specific part in my test, does not. It is basically a toss-up for which is better in certain scenarios.

I'm just wondering if there is a definitive 'best' filter to use out of all options and whether or not XySubFilter development will be continued.

[amayra]

Originally Posted by SecurityBunny

While AssFilter doesn't lag in the part XySubFilter does, subtitles do not appear to be smooth when they are scrolling / moving across the screen. It appears to stutter, whereas Xy and built-in renderer do not.

can you give me the test file ?

[SecurityBunny]

Originally Posted by amayra

can you give me the test file ?

Sure, will send you a PM.

[Tanuki]

I have a strange bug : I use xysubfilter latest beta (3.1.0.746 Beta but I tried the previous beta too) in zoom player (tried several versions) in windows 7 and 10, and subs are sometimes rendered lower or higher than the previous sentence. The problem happens with srt, vobsubs and ass.
The problem started several months back, and I don't recall doing or installing something before it happened.

[amayra]

Originally Posted by Tanuki

I have a strange bug : I use xysubfilter latest beta (3.1.0.746 Beta but I tried the previous beta too) in zoom player (tried several versions) in windows 7 and 10, and subs are sometimes rendered lower or higher than the previous sentence. The problem happens with srt, vobsubs and ass.
The problem started several months back, and I don't recall doing or installing something before it happened.

did this happen only with zoomplayer ?
and how about reset settings ?
PS: try MPC

[Tanuki]

Originally Posted by amayra

did this happen only with zoomplayer ?
and how about reset settings ?
PS: try MPC

Even after resetting settings (with the .reg file), the problem is still there.

Same problem in MPC-HC latest nightly...

[huhn]

are you sure the subtitles are created correctly?

[Tanuki]

Originally Posted by huhn

are you sure the subtitles are created correctly?

I'm not sure to understand the question, but the subs themselves are not the problem : they are playing fine in MPC-HC with internal subtitles renderer.

I reset MadVR settings too, but it didn't change anything.


PS : I noticed a strange thing yesterday while playing with MPC-HC, but it's not related : I have an anime OP video with karaoke subtitles that seem to be harder to render than average that I keep because it lags at one point with MadVR default settings. Thing is that with the same filters and settings (LAV, MadVR and xysubfilter), it doesn't lag in MPC-HC and still lag in Zoom player.

[jmartinr]

Originally Posted by Tanuki

I have a strange bug : I use xysubfilter latest beta (3.1.0.746 Beta but I tried the previous beta too) in zoom player (tried several versions) in windows 7 and 10, and subs are sometimes rendered lower or higher than the previous sentence. The problem happens with srt, vobsubs and ass.
The problem started several months back, and I don't recall doing or installing something before it happened.

Your subtitle rendertimes might be overlapping. Causing a shift when the second subtitle is shown while the first is not finished yet.

[Tanuki]

I tried what I should have done before posting : I only tried recently the 2 latest releases (744 and 746 BETA3), but there's no problem with the 705 BETA2.

I attached an example of vobsubs (for a video with a resolution of 853x480) that don't work correctly with BETA3. The first minute with both lyrics and dialogues at the same time is enough.

[ChronosAI]

Originally Posted by SecurityBunny

Does anyone happen to know if development will ever kick back up again or whether a suitable replacement is in the works? I've got a file that lags at certain parts with XySubFilter but not with MPC-HC's built-in subtitle renderer.

I had some video freezing/subtitle blinking problems with XySubFilter with heavy karaoke/ass typeset videos but managed to avoid those by increasing the cache sizes from within XySub control panel's "More" tab and "Cache Options" segment there.

[amayra]

Originally Posted by ChronosAI

I had some video freezing/subtitle blinking problems with XySubFilter with heavy karaoke/ass typeset videos but managed to avoid those by increasing the cache sizes from within XySub control panel's "More" tab and "Cache Options" segment there.

can anyone explain to me the Xy-Sub control panel i dont get it

[ChronosAI]

Originally Posted by amayra

can anyone explain to me the Xy-Sub control panel i dont get it

If you mean the values, just try increasing them (double 'em), the LV1/2/3/4 fields have an upper limit what I tried and the cache size field probably works on automation (-1), try setting it higher than what you have with the problematic/choppy typeset.

If you don't know how to access the filter control panel, open up a video that relies on it with say, mpc-hc and double-click on the video frame and you should see a menu with path like this:

Filters > XySubFilter (=> madVR) > Properties...

Mind you this is just a workaround I found to fix my problems and setup (mpc-hc, madvr, lav, xysub). The performance/cache issues with heavy-weight karaoke/typeset might get addressed if xysub development resumes.

[kirakami]

xy-vsfilter no longer being developed? Nothing since last release in 2014.