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Old 1st December 2020, 20:26   #60881  |  Link
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The other option is to buy a 1080ti, or even a 3080/3090.

And you won't have to do any of this stuff, just max setting the whole lot.
I already have the 1080ti and I certainly can not max the settings out on SD, HD or HDR.
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Old 1st December 2020, 20:53   #60882  |  Link
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I already have the 1080ti and I certainly can not max the settings out on SD, HD or HDR.
3090, It's time.
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Old 1st December 2020, 21:32   #60883  |  Link
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Guys thank you so so much for the help on the script after years of not having the changes I need for 24,25 & 60 in SD, HD and HDR I finally have it all working and switching just like magic!!!
Wow Im over thew moon..
Thank you Asmondian, chros and QBhd for going to the time to help me, Im so happy!
My 1080ti does it all and I don’t have tyo go and buy the 3090 now.
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Old 2nd December 2020, 09:29   #60884  |  Link
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No worries, enjoy!
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If it's of any help, try win10-radeon-pro-software-enterprise-20.q3.1-sep11.
How does the RX 5700 XT perform with madvr? Can you use NGU very high settings?

I run a RX 480 at NGU high and I am considering the RX 5700 XT. Any advice?
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Old 3rd December 2020, 01:25   #60886  |  Link
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Can some of the experts tell my what NGU settings do they prefer for DVD rips on a screen say 120", with upscaling to 4K with the 1080ti card?
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Old 3rd December 2020, 01:51   #60887  |  Link
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120" DVD rips?!

NGU AA as high as you can set it, and do not expect too much.
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Old 3rd December 2020, 01:57   #60888  |  Link
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120" DVD rips?!

NGU AA as high as you can set it, and do not expect too much.
I dont expect much from them and hardly ever use them. But using NGU AA doesnt allow x4 upscaling so is that still better with NGU AA without x4?
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Old 3rd December 2020, 02:04   #60889  |  Link
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I only use NGU sharp (for chroma as well) with everything, I don't see the point of AA. Compare the 2, see the link in my signature
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I find that when upscaling DVDs or lower res stuff in general, it can help quite a bit to add some grain. Otherwise some stuff can look highly artificial. I also prefer AA to sharp in this case, for the same reason.
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And you guys that use NGU AA for DVD dont mind not being able to use x4 upscaling as you can with the other NGU settings? Do you think x4 upscaling is work it to help impove things or just sounds like its better?
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Old 3rd December 2020, 08:47   #60892  |  Link
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4x is supposed to be faster not really better.

not sure why NGU sharp is even considered for chroma or a DVD. for NGU to work best you need an relative error free and sharp image both are not really given on a DVD or chroma.

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How does the RX 5700 XT perform with madvr? Can you use NGU very high settings?

I run a RX 480 at NGU high and I am considering the RX 5700 XT. Any advice?
why would you consider a 5700 xt now. they are so over priced compared to a 3060 ti or the upcomming 6700.
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Old 3rd December 2020, 09:01   #60893  |  Link
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@HillieSan - given the current landscape, Huhn makes a valid point.

As far as the 5700xt is concerned, it does what I want it to do.
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Yeah I love my 5700 XT... but it is still almost the same price as I paid a year ago... so unless you are getting a great deal on the used market, it makes no sense to buy one now.

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Do you think x4 upscaling is work it to help impove things or just sounds like its better?
I agree with huhn. x4 is faster but x2 twice is higher quality. I always use x2 twice for quadrupling even for NGU Sharp, it is noticeably better than x4.

It can get complicated trying to find the optimal options if you are performance limited, comparing x4 at a higher quality to x2x2 at lower qualities.
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why would you consider a 5700 xt now. they are so over priced compared to a 3060 ti or the upcomming 6700.
I am asking because I expect that the prices of the 5700 xt will be dropping. A 3060 is at least €100 more then the 5700 xt. The 5700 xt already drops under the €400. For me around €450 for a graphics card is more than enough for HT.

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I am looking at the 5700 xt and the 3060 ti. Is the 3060 ti a much better choice then the 5700 xt for madvr? Is it worth it to pay €100 more? I am not playing games.

5700 xt MSI MECH OC 8G is €399
5700 xt ASRock Challenger 8G is €379.90
3060 ti GIGABYTE Gaming OC 8G is €499.

EDIT: I have found a few more 3060 ti cards within my budget.

It looks like the price difference between 5700 xt and 3060 ti is less €50-€100. Interesting. Of course the GPU clock determines the price at well.

What I like about AMD cards is the right refresh rate for HT out of the box. With NVIDIA I had to tweak the refresh rate in the past. Is this still the case?

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Ampere has lots of FLOPS, this could/should be helpful for pure shader workloads like madVR. Navi 10 die size also is also not much bigger than Polaris 10, but it consumes more power under high load. Thus I expect that you need a bigger heatsink to get a comparable level of temperatures and noise vs. the 3060 Ti.
While my 5700 XT MSI Gaming is hardly audible after some tweaking, its typical price is rather unattractive vs. the 3060 Ti (let's pretend shops were stocked and the whole market wasn't broken).
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the msrp is 400 for the 3060 ti and i'm even seeing them from time to time for that price and it massively faster than a 5700 xt this is not a comparison is a slaughter.

and yes 5700 XT could fall in price in a couple of months or get extreme expensive because they will soon not be produced anymore there is simple no point.

AMD has to follow up with a card in the same price range too.
the msrp for AMD card is at best a lie which is very disappointing.
a even cheaper 3060 will be available "soon" too which should still be faster than a 5700 XT.
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The RX 480 gets really hot. The fans turn on most of the time and sound like a turbo engine. It's annoying and it has become a problem since I have moved the HTPC closer.

The other problem with the RX 480 is that if the TV and projector are switched on in an incorrect sequence then it takes the card lost of time to switch hdmi and display port. Sometimes it fails and I need to reboot the system.

The RX 480 and madvr with NGU sharp high looks fine. But I think the image on the projector could be better in very high mode and with additional tweaks settings. The RX 480 has no room to experiment. For example I want to experiment with smooth motion on a higher frame rate on the projector. I have used Bluesky Frame Rate Converter in the past and it was amazing. The panning at 60 Hz is so much better than on 24Hz.

The 3060 ti are out of stock. I guess I have to wait until next year.
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