AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version - Page 70

kostik · 9th July 2020, 20:13

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Originally Posted by VBB

Gonna wait for someone else to test this time around

Same as previous 451 drivers

tyguy · 9th July 2020, 22:23

Is there a bug in latest drivers regarding hdr playback? NV HDR is all grey and washed out, but my tv says HDR is on. Using OS HDR looks proper. I’m using madvr tonemapping with pixel shaders for what it’s worth.

VBB · 9th July 2020, 22:47

Yes, the last two do not work properly with madVR's HDR implementation. This is due to changes in the way Nvidia handles HDR, so not really a bug in the driver, but something that needs to be fixed in madVR.

tyguy · 9th July 2020, 23:06

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Originally Posted by VBB

Yes, the last two do not work properly with madVR's HDR implementation. This is due to changes in the way Nvidia handles HDR, so not really a bug in the driver, but something that needs to be fixed in madVR.

Okay thanks for letting me know. Im assuming it will be awhile before this is fixed in madvr since development seems to be on hold. Having to toggle HDR isn't the end of the world.

huhn · 10th July 2020, 00:33

a new test build is expected every day now. there is a good chance it will be complain with the API changes.

VBB · 10th July 2020, 00:42

As much as I'd like to see one, I wouldn't get my hopes up. Mathias is simply too busy with finalizing Envy. Once it ships, any further madVR development will also benefit Envy, so that should be good for us here. What I'd really like to see in addition to bug fixes is support for Dolby Vision, especially now that single layer rips without compromising audio are possible.

huhn · 10th July 2020, 00:58

i have bad news for you.
this may never ever happen without papers.
you need a decoder first to even output it to madVR.

SamuriHL · 10th July 2020, 01:33

There are decoders on the PC if you can figure out how to use them. And Dolby Vision has been added to the MKV standard in the past couple weeks. Things have been progressing quite nicely outside of the PC world for DV.

VBB · 10th July 2020, 03:32

Well, hopefully Nev will find it worthy of his time, but I know we've discussed this before. The problem with DV is that it's closed pretty tightly. It will happen eventually.

Klaus1189 · 10th July 2020, 05:24

@brazen1: I think I read somewhere that there is a new Audio driver version in recent Nvidia drivers, does that fix this issue?
https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...postcount=1319

SamuriHL · 10th July 2020, 13:51

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Originally Posted by VBB

Well, hopefully Nev will find it worthy of his time, but I know we've discussed this before. The problem with DV is that it's closed pretty tightly. It will happen eventually.

Some of the docs have been released. Still can't properly encode but the reason so much progress was made on mkv is because they got access to the profile docs and had the mp4 muxer Dolby released. They were able to piece everything together from that. All of my dv movies are sitting on my nas in ts format as profile 04.06 for playback on my shield. Those Intel drivers that were released in May have a decoder. And Nvidia drivers have had a beta decoder for a while... I'm guessing for games. So it's not impossible anymore. Just time consuming and difficult.

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fairchild · 11th July 2020, 00:55

Any testing done on 20.7.1 drivers, how can i help to test compatibility? I'm running them currently on my RX 56 Vega.

Klaus1189 · 11th July 2020, 11:41

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Originally Posted by fairchild

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I am glad you want to help, but sadly I don't understand what you mean with testing compatibility?

fairchild · 11th July 2020, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Klaus1189

I am glad you want to help, but sadly I don't understand what you mean with testing compatibility?

Well since that driver hasn't been verified, I was willing to run whatever test you do to check if the passthrough for HDR is working. I have an HDR MKV file I use.

LG Colors of Journey HDR UHD 4K Demo.mkv

Does show HDR passthrough working as my TV switches to HDR mode and appropriate Mode on my TCL Roku 4k TV with latest MadVR and 20.7.1 drivers

Klaus1189 · 12th July 2020, 10:07

Something like this would be really nice, since I don't have equipment or knowledge to do tests like this:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...44#post1865444

I use my RX 5700 XT to check if the passthrough works, but please keep on checking with your Vega (other generation Navi) if the HDR switch still works and if there is anything please report here.

solidservo · 13th July 2020, 15:53

so what is the recommended nvidia driver for madVR with HDR content?
442.74?

Klaus1189 · 13th July 2020, 16:53

For now with madVR I recommend one of the following:
Last working GRD: 446.14
Last working SD: 442.92
Please keep in mind the issue introduced in 445.xx drivers:
This version and all 445.XX and higher: Playback at greater than 8-bit drops back to 8-bit (and out of HDR) in FS windowed mode when player GUI is triggered, regardless of bit-depth of the file. Can be circumvented by using FSE mode or by setting madVR to 8-bit.

solidservo · 14th July 2020, 06:10

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Originally Posted by Klaus1189

For now with madVR I recommend one of the following:
Last working GRD: 446.14
Last working SD: 442.92
Please keep in mind the issue introduced in 445.xx drivers:
This version and all 445.XX and higher: Playback at greater than 8-bit drops back to 8-bit (and out of HDR) in FS windowed mode when player GUI is triggered, regardless of bit-depth of the file. Can be circumvented by using FSE mode or by setting madVR to 8-bit.

shouldn't I just used GRD 442.74 because of this? Or is there a good reason to go with 446.14 instead?

Klaus1189 · 14th July 2020, 11:01

I would go with SD 442.92 over GRD 442.74, but if you really want to go with GRD only and need/want prevent the 445.xx issue mentioned in my former post yes. Because there are workarounds mentioned but with drawbacks, like no player gui in exclusive mode.

Filmgeek47 · 16th July 2020, 07:40

I’ve got a frustrating issue that I’m hoping someone can help me with. I’m running a GTX 1660ti and I’m trying to get working 3D and 4k. I’m really close with the 425.31 driver. The only issue I’ve got is that every time I reboot, my bit depth settings reset back to the default of 8 bit, which on my projector makes everything go magenta. If I set the bit depth to 12 bit at 24hz, it’ll switch back and forth correctly between 24/60hz and 8/12bit, but on reboot I have to reset those bit depths again. Is there a solution to this? Was this a common issue with earlier drivers? The bit depth is persistent on the newer drivers, but then 3d doesn’t work.

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tyguy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 63	AMD, Intel and Nvidia driver issues and last recommended version Is there a bug in latest drivers regarding hdr playback? NV HDR is all grey and washed out, but my tv says HDR is on. Using OS HDR looks proper. I’m using madvr tonemapping with pixel shaders for what it’s worth. Last edited by tyguy; 9th July 2020 at 22:33.

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	Yes, the last two do not work properly with madVR's HDR implementation. This is due to changes in the way Nvidia handles HDR, so not really a bug in the driver, but something that needs to be fixed in madVR. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	As much as I'd like to see one, I wouldn't get my hopes up. Mathias is simply too busy with finalizing Envy. Once it ships, any further madVR development will also benefit Envy, so that should be good for us here. What I'd really like to see in addition to bug fixes is support for Dolby Vision, especially now that single layer rips without compromising audio are possible. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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SamuriHL Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,351	There are decoders on the PC if you can figure out how to use them. And Dolby Vision has been added to the MKV standard in the past couple weeks. Things have been progressing quite nicely outside of the PC world for DV. __________________ HTPC: Windows 11, AMD 5900X, RTX 3080, Pioneer Elite VSX-LX303, LG G2 77" OLED

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VBB Registered User Join Date: May 2016 Location: Long Beach, CA, USA Posts: 620	Well, hopefully Nev will find it worthy of his time, but I know we've discussed this before. The problem with DV is that it's closed pretty tightly. It will happen eventually. __________________ Henry \| LG OLED65C7P \| Denon AVR-X3500H \| ELAC Uni-Fi x7 \| ELAC Debut 2.0 SUB3030 x2 \| NVIDIA SHIELD TV Pro 2019 \| Plex

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	a new test build is expected every day now. there is a good chance it will be complain with the API changes.

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huhn Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 7,926	i have bad news for you. this may never ever happen without papers. you need a decoder first to even output it to madVR.

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	@brazen1: I think I read somewhere that there is a new Audio driver version in recent Nvidia drivers, does that fix this issue? https://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php...postcount=1319

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fairchild Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 321	Any testing done on 20.7.1 drivers, how can i help to test compatibility? I'm running them currently on my RX 56 Vega. __________________ MPC-HC/MPC-BE, Lav Filters, MadVR CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600, Video: AMD Radeon RX Vega 56 -> TCL S405 55", Audio: Audio-Technica M50S

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	Something like this would be really nice, since I don't have equipment or knowledge to do tests like this: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...44#post1865444 I use my RX 5700 XT to check if the passthrough works, but please keep on checking with your Vega (other generation Navi) if the HDR switch still works and if there is anything please report here.

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solidservo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 6	so what is the recommended nvidia driver for madVR with HDR content? 442.74?

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	For now with madVR I recommend one of the following: Last working GRD: 446.14 Last working SD: 442.92 Please keep in mind the issue introduced in 445.xx drivers: This version and all 445.XX and higher: Playback at greater than 8-bit drops back to 8-bit (and out of HDR) in FS windowed mode when player GUI is triggered, regardless of bit-depth of the file. Can be circumvented by using FSE mode or by setting madVR to 8-bit.

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Klaus1189 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Bavaria Posts: 1,667	I would go with SD 442.92 over GRD 442.74, but if you really want to go with GRD only and need/want prevent the 445.xx issue mentioned in my former post yes. Because there are workarounds mentioned but with drawbacks, like no player gui in exclusive mode.

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Filmgeek47 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 11	I’ve got a frustrating issue that I’m hoping someone can help me with. I’m running a GTX 1660ti and I’m trying to get working 3D and 4k. I’m really close with the 425.31 driver. The only issue I’ve got is that every time I reboot, my bit depth settings reset back to the default of 8 bit, which on my projector makes everything go magenta. If I set the bit depth to 12 bit at 24hz, it’ll switch back and forth correctly between 24/60hz and 8/12bit, but on reboot I have to reset those bit depths again. Is there a solution to this? Was this a common issue with earlier drivers? The bit depth is persistent on the newer drivers, but then 3d doesn’t work.