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Old 27th December 2019, 12:31   #1061  |  Link
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Old 4th January 2020, 10:33   #1062  |  Link
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Old 9th January 2020, 21:20   #1063  |  Link
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How do the VS and XY differ, and how do they compare to MPC-HC internal?

In my simple tests the VS seems unstable for some reason and can crash, but it seems to work when XY messes up,
in one case XY shows the wrong subtitle when you jump in the video, it will show the previous (i think) for one subtitle, then when the next one comes it's in sync again.

MPC-HC has issue when jumping where it sometimes doesn't show any subtitles for awhile (i think it's in combination with madvr).
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Old 10th January 2020, 21:20   #1064  |  Link
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xy VSfilter renders the subs on the video so the quality can only be as good as the resolution of the video and they are usually sub sampled.

XY subfilter uses a custom API created by madshi these subtitles can be moved independent from the video be rendered at any resolution or color correct you name it.

the ISR in mpc-hc is vs filter based it is rendered on an extra surface just like xy subfilter but missed much of the features if you are using a 3D LUT for color correction it is not applied to the subtitles. it pretty similar to xy VSfilter still slower but not much.
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Old 15th January 2020, 15:01   #1065  |  Link
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The following archive contains updated and mostly stable versions of XyVSFilter and XySubFilter in both 32 and 64bit iterations.
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With over 500 downloads of the previously posted archive, the filters contained in this archive were updated on June 30th. 2020

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Old 17th January 2020, 05:58   #1066  |  Link
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xy VSfilter renders the subs on the video so the quality can only be as good as the resolution of the video and they are usually sub sampled.

XY subfilter uses a custom API created by madshi these subtitles can be moved independent from the video be rendered at any resolution or color correct you name it.

the ISR in mpc-hc is vs filter based it is rendered on an extra surface just like xy subfilter but missed much of the features if you are using a 3D LUT for color correction it is not applied to the subtitles. it pretty similar to xy VSfilter still slower but not much.
Ah, odd but mpc-hc seemed faster for me than xy-subfilter in heavy cases, i got framedrops with the latter and took awhile to figure out why.

I haven't touched any settings that i know of either when it comes to the subfilters.
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Old 18th January 2020, 04:44   #1067  |  Link
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it's supposed to be faster and i even multiply time reported cases where the ISR couldn't compete.
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Old 21st January 2020, 02:04   #1068  |  Link
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The following archive contains updated and mostly stable versions of XyVSFilter and XySubFilter in both 32 and 64bit iterations.
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can you share me link offical updated of it?
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Old 21st January 2020, 12:38   #1069  |  Link
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can you share me link offical updated of it?
No, I cannot share anything official. I just downloaded them from a publicly available distribution.
I can tell you that the author is a regular reader here and is aware that I posted these filters.
If he wants to share the patches that were applied, thats up to him.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 04:39   #1070  |  Link
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No, I cannot share anything official. I just downloaded them from a publicly available distribution.
I can tell you that the author is a regular reader here and is aware that I posted these filters.
If he wants to share the patches that were applied, thats up to him.
I found it, it in folder of k-lite codec pack 😂😂😂😂😂
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Old 23rd January 2020, 06:08   #1071  |  Link
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Shark007 and the K-lite codec pack? Ya don't say..
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Old 8th June 2020, 21:40   #1072  |  Link
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How do you update XySubFilter?
Is it enough to replace the .dll?
Do I need to re-register it afterwards?
Do I need to unregister the old one first?
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Is it enough to replace the .dll?
Yes
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Old 3rd July 2020, 16:28   #1074  |  Link
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Please Help - Performance XySubFilter.
I have dropped frames with 4K@60Hz and XySubFilter enabled (20-30 Frames/sec dropped)
with ISR(integrated subtitle renderer) i have no dropped frames (mpc-hc and mpc-be).
with XySubFilter the video is playing without droped frames until the first subtitle appears, and after that i have droped frames.
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Old 12th July 2020, 19:57   #1075  |  Link
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Please Help - Performance XySubFilter.
I have dropped frames with 4K@60Hz and XySubFilter enabled (20-30 Frames/sec dropped)
with ISR(integrated subtitle renderer) i have no dropped frames (mpc-hc and mpc-be).
with XySubFilter the video is playing without droped frames until the first subtitle appears, and after that i have droped frames.
onur, you can try using this build of XySubFilter which uses libass as a backend for ASS/SSA subtitles rendering: link.

I've built it based on the code found here:
https://github.com/jesec/xy-VSFilter/tree/cr-libass

The initial spike on rendering subs the first time, as well as subsequent ones are much lower than with the GDI based fonts rendering.

I've only uploaded the 64 bit binaries. Let me know if you need the 32 bit ones.

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Old 15th July 2020, 12:39   #1076  |  Link
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i had to install - Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable 2015-2019
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...al-c-downloads

But Your Filter has the same Problem.
the problem are not subsequent subs.
after first sub is displayed madvdr is dropping frames - doesn't matter if there are frames or not.

procedure:
Fim starts without dropped frames.
15 seconds later first sub is displayed, now frames get dropped (i could live with that).
Now frames are dropped permanent, even when there are no subs to display.
even when i seek back to start pos i have dropped frames.

i think, MadVR is rendering subs even when nothing is to display (Mixing empty Image).

I can send you a sample file(80MB) with WeTransfer if you want (mail adress with private message).
thanks, onur
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Old 15th July 2020, 22:43   #1077  |  Link
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as soon as madVR displays a sub it needs more time to renderer frames. that's why it like to drop frames the first time a sub is show to me this si a bug because it know this for a long time that it has to render the subs soon.

and even if subs are not renderd the shader that take the processing power are still run you can easily see this in the advanced render stats.

but i you didn't check the rendertimes there is no way to proof if this is the same problem.
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Old 16th July 2020, 11:55   #1078  |  Link
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integrated sub filter in mpc-be, mpc-hc have no problems.
when sub has to be rendered it gets rendered, without sub there is no perfomance waste.

XySubFilter or MadVR has a performance waste in that situation - which should be easy to fix.
Stop Rendereing subs when no sub is shown.
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Old 16th July 2020, 14:36   #1079  |  Link
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Use the internal sub renderer. There is no reason to use XySubFilter. The performance benefit it used to have long ago is mostly non-existent nowadays.
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Old 16th July 2020, 20:31   #1080  |  Link
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@clsid, by the way, thanks for keeping mpc-hc alive.
Unfortunately my player has no internal sub renderer. i only test with mpc-hc/mph-be.
and i think i am in the right forum to post problems with XySubFilter.


Is there nobody who can say, yes thats true, XySubFilter or MadVR is wasting performance when there is no subtitle to display.
I am glad that people post answers, but most of them are pointless.
if there is somebody to test, i can send(wetransfer to email) sample file (80MB 4K 59Hz HDR file).

thanks, onur
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