MeGUI x64 - Page 16

Carpo · 6th January 2013, 16:39

Why discontinue it? The world is going 64bit - but it is your choice to stop development on it if you wish

Zathor · 6th January 2013, 16:59

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Originally Posted by Carpo

Why discontinue it? The world is going 64bit - but it is your choice to stop development on it if you wish

Because AviSynth x64 is discontinued as well. At least I do not see any progress in this area.

Carpo · 6th January 2013, 17:09

Well I suppose you can only develop for what is out there and supported

Wam7 · 6th January 2013, 23:21

Obviously I can't speak for everybody but I don't see the point in developing it any further. It is only marginally faster than x86, besides which you can enable 64 bit mode for x264 in x86 MeGUI. There have been some excellent advancements on MeGUI in the past few months so it is best to focus on just x86.

Carpo · 7th January 2013, 14:07

I wouldn't call 20fps more marginally faster, Just did an encode - with x86 megui i get about 26fps on 1080p encode, using x64 megui and x64 avisynth i was getting about 44-46fps, but it is up to the devs to support what they want, and if avisynth x64 is not being developed then there is no reason to support it

sneaker_ger · 7th January 2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Carpo

with x86 megui i get about 26fps on 1080p encode, using x64 megui and x64 avisynth i was getting about 44-46fps

Then you must have been doing something very differently. x64 does not explain such a huge speed-up.

Carpo · 7th January 2013, 14:40

same files, same drive, same settings

JoeH · 7th January 2013, 15:11

Personally I think you can discontinue it. It looks to me like if there is a secondary "future" version of MeGUI like this in development it should be a VapourSynth compatible MeGUI.

Carpo · 7th January 2013, 15:14

indeed, just make the x86 version better than it already is

sneaker_ger · 7th January 2013, 16:29

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Originally Posted by Carpo

same files, same drive, same settings

Something has to be different, you just have to look closer.

Kurtnoise · 7th January 2013, 18:01

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Originally Posted by JoeH

It looks to me like if there is a secondary "future" version of MeGUI like this in development it should be a VapourSynth compatible MeGUI.

This implies to rewrite it from scratch coz MeGUI is heavily dependent of Avisynth...

Groucho2004 · 7th January 2013, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Kurtnoise

This implies to rewrite it from scratch coz MeGUI is hardly dependent of Avisynth...

What???

I iz confuzed coz I thinks megui heavily depends on Avisynth.

Kurtnoise · 7th January 2013, 18:08

yeah, sorry..wrong word.

Carpo · 7th January 2013, 18:29

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Originally Posted by sneaker_ger

Something has to be different, you just have to look closer.

going to do a fresh install soon, then do some more tests, maybe with all the different files floating about something is causing it, fresh system might be a good bet

ZenMystic · 8th January 2013, 05:25

I came accross this post I use megui 64 a fair bit... am I now going to have to switch to 32 bit? I also use FFDShow 64 and MPC-HC 64 A LOT to play my videos I encode... Am I going to have to put all to 32 bit to get it all to work together? Just asking...

Kurtnoise · 8th January 2013, 09:56

You can stick with 64 bits for playback...but switch to 32 bits tools for transcoding files (avisynth + decoders).

Poutnik · 8th January 2013, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Carpo

.....and if avisynth x64 is not being developed then there is no reason to support it

Is AVS64 drop confirmed by AVS developers ?

Poutnik · 8th January 2013, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Kurtnoise

You can stick with 64 bits for playback...but switch to 32 bits tools for transcoding files (avisynth + decoders).

Some may use AVS based FFDShow 64b postprocessing....
Personally i did so in 32b only, even if I have x64,
but some users moved farther to AVS64 then me....

Carpo · 8th January 2013, 14:39

I just went by what Zathor said, hence the IF part of the sentence,

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Originally Posted by Zathor

Because AviSynth x64 is discontinued as well. At least I do not see any progress in this area.

and seeing as SEt said over in the Avisynth Development thread -

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Originally Posted by SEt

x64 support for 2.6 is unlikely.

It looks like we will have to wait for x64 Avisynth

8th January 2013, 16:26

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Originally Posted by ZenMystic

I came accross this post I use megui 64 a fair bit... am I now going to have to switch to 32 bit? I also use FFDShow 64 and MPC-HC 64 A LOT to play my videos I encode... Am I going to have to put all to 32 bit to get it all to work together? Just asking...

No, why would you? The encoded files are exactly the same regardless of whether the encoder was 32 or 64 bits.

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Carpo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: /dev/null Posts: 1,368	I wouldn't call 20fps more marginally faster, Just did an encode - with x86 megui i get about 26fps on 1080p encode, using x64 megui and x64 avisynth i was getting about 44-46fps, but it is up to the devs to support what they want, and if avisynth x64 is not being developed then there is no reason to support it __________________ The Internet: where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI Agents

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Wam7 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: U.K Posts: 116	Obviously I can't speak for everybody but I don't see the point in developing it any further. It is only marginally faster than x86, besides which you can enable 64 bit mode for x264 in x86 MeGUI. There have been some excellent advancements on MeGUI in the past few months so it is best to focus on just x86.

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JoeH Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 251	Personally I think you can discontinue it. It looks to me like if there is a secondary "future" version of MeGUI like this in development it should be a VapourSynth compatible MeGUI.

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ZenMystic Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 76	I came accross this post I use megui 64 a fair bit... am I now going to have to switch to 32 bit? I also use FFDShow 64 and MPC-HC 64 A LOT to play my videos I encode... Am I going to have to put all to 32 bit to get it all to work together? Just asking...

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Kurtnoise Swallowed in the Sea Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aix-en-Provence, France Posts: 5,191	You can stick with 64 bits for playback...but switch to 32 bits tools for transcoding files (avisynth + decoders).