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View Poll Results: Do you still use MPEG2 in 2019? | |||
Yes | 26 | 44.83% | |
Yes, for simple content (tv shows, etc) | 4 | 6.90% | |
No | 30 | 51.72% | |
I don't know what MPEG2 is... | 3 | 5.17% | |
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13th July 2019, 08:12 | #1 | Link |
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x262: 2019 updates?
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Adding a poll, not site-wide, but just anyone who happens to stumble upon the MPEG2 section in this day and age. Main Entry: I'm just curious: Has anyone ever done any updates on their own, or even mirrored updates, for x262? I don't always make DVD backups from DVD, but when I do... I like to keep my options open? I currently use HCenc with AVS2DVD, a lot. And got curious with x262, but would like to know if it got any recent updates lately since the last post in the main thread. I just got a BD-RW drive, but I'd still like to explore MPEG2 options for SD content on BD discs. Eventually... when discs go a little more down in price. This would be great for TV series on BD without having them on multiple DVD's. tl;dr: Anything more recent for x262? (besides the main thread posts with external links) EDIT: I voted for everything. Multiple choice, no closing date, public stats, etc.
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13th July 2019, 12:15 | #2 | Link |
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Physical media is going the way of the dodo bird. A much better way would be to copy or compress your media onto a NAS i.e. a bunch of hard drives attached to your network from which you then view the files on your choice of screen. And using mpeg-2 to compress anything these says is a laughable concept. x262 seemed more like a hobbyist project that now seems to have been abandoned since Mar 16, 2015.
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I think with DVDs it is pretty much the same as with Audio CDs:
They have been pronounced dead many times, but still they exist and will continue to exist for a long time to come. Of course movie sales on physical media are declining due to streaming, but for the physical media which are sold today DVDs are far ahead of BluRay. And BluRay is not closing the gap now, and I believe it never will. The DVD format has a lot of advantages over the "modern" formats. It is the most compatible format by far, a DVD structure (maybe in an ISO file) will play everywhere. An AVC or HEVC video in an MKV or MP4 container may or may not play on a current TV (depending on the philosophy of the manufacturer). How often have I sent an MKV or MP4 to a friend who complained that the player will not honor the chapter points? Many many times. This just does not happen with a DVD. And finally it is easy for a DVD to author it with nice looking menus using free tools. For BluRays you need to spend big bucks to get menus (with the possible exception of MultiAVCHD, but this is not BluRay compliant). Not to speak about the huge learning curve until you master creating BluRay menus. So please stop bashing the MPEG2 video format and DVDs. Just don't use it if you think that this format has no right to exist in 2019... Cheers manolito Last edited by manolito; 13th July 2019 at 20:52. |
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13th July 2019, 23:46 | #8 | Link |
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I actually did have to use MPEG-2 a couple months ago when re-authoring a DVD from PAL->NTSC. Of course, I also did a separate HEVC Main10 encode for desktop playback, but I still used HCenc to prepare it for AVStoDVD. Aside from that, I hadn't had a need to do so in several years. Most of my need for using MPEG-2 and authoring DVDs in the past was related to my computer at the time being too old to handle H.264 in nearly any configuration; I bought a mini-PC in October 2015 that was more than capable of playing back 1080p H.264, even 10-bit, and my need to transcode stuff so I could watch it on my TV pretty much evaporated.
Blank BD-Rs are fairly inexpensive, though. At least if you want just 25GB and nothing special; of course, you still have to pay a premium for M-Discs, but run-of-the-mill ones? You can get a 50pk spindle of single layer BD-Rs for ~$20. I use them for data archives, but with the single-file playback capabilities of some Blu-ray players, you might be able to get away with it from a disc instead of a flash drive. I played around with x262 a couple times, and it was promising, but I never moved to using it in any grand fashion. |
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My brother owns a very recent TechniSat DVB-S2 receiver and an even newer LG LCD TV. Both have built-in video players, and both are unable to skip to the next chapter point when using AVC/AAC videos in an MKV container. Needless to say that these chapter points were created using current versions of MKVToolNix, and every software player I use as well as my old Xtreamer Sidewinder streaming box have no problems recognizing these chapter points.
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I am aware of the shortcomings of "media players" built into TVs, I had the very same problem with my relatively modern Panasonic LCD. So, I just got a dedicated streaming device for a few bucks and the problem was solved.
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Would love to see x262 polished, as I am still asked to make DVDs.
I can help with binaries r2421, r2433, r2443, r2508, r2615, r2633.
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I admit it is pretty outdated codec to use with so many options.
I'm still fascinated by it, even today. A bunch of my mom's stuff can be archived to SD x264, but I haven't found a totally reliable method of delivery for her. I got her a ROKU Ultra and a portable external, but when that external drops (especially being a SeaGate), I'm to square one. I like to try keep backups of her stuff on DVD-9s for extra insurance. I'd rather she not keep using the original discs as she can get lazy and leave the discs lying around when she goes to change them. Dexter is incomplete from this habit. Quote:
Do you host on github? Something where we can see the commits?
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15th July 2019, 16:29 | #17 | Link |
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I think this is the most up to date repo (which I think is the same as this repo). I'll post a build later today.
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Going to bookmark the videolan and follow the github.
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15th July 2019, 18:59 | #20 | Link |
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Here are the r2633 builds (32 & 64 bit). Input is Avisynth or stdin.
Standard disclaimer: I have not tested these at all and take no responsibility if your computer blows up or you grow excessive nose hair using these binaries.
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