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30th December 2019, 11:27 | #1 | Link |
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What renderer does Windows 10's Movies & TV player use? Plays 10-bit videos great
My 4K UHD TV does not support HDR.
When I use PotPlayer with MadVR to play 10-bit 4K UHD mkv videos, there's significant banding and color problems. Here's an example: When I play the same file with Windows 10's Movies & TV player it looks perfect to my eyes: Here are my settings in MadVR: How do I get it to look "perfect" like in Windows 10 Movies & TV? Is there any way for PotPlayer to use the same renderer as Movies & TV, at least for 10-bit videos? |
30th December 2019, 11:41 | #2 | Link |
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Windows 10's Movies & TV player use DX11 Video Renderer and HDR->SDR conversion by the video driver.
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My TV is the LG 84LM9600, which happens to be one of the earliest 4K TVs ever sold. I have the HDMI 2.0/4K60P upgrade installed. |
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11th April 2023, 04:38 | #7 | Link |
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PotPlayer has a different implementation of "Direct3D 11 Video Renderer".
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11th April 2023, 09:54 | #8 | Link |
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@v0lt I found this: https://github.com/Microsoft/DirectX...MapPostProcess Could be used to get better quality tonemapping with D3D11 in MPCVR?
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11th April 2023, 14:17 | #9 | Link |
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the problem is improving worth it right now?
the current solution is fast and simply aims at bt 709 with a fixed brightness and that's fine it's easy to use. but if you want more you would start with brightness, gamut and gamma which you currently can't control in mpcVR. and that's a lot of work... the microsoft stuff doesn't seem to be able to aim at BT 709 but everything else even from BT 709. for transfer it has linear(what ever that means), SRGB and ST2084 where it talks about color primary where it would force bt 2020 gamut too. |
11th October 2023, 12:08 | #10 | Link |
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It's funny how Windows 10's native Movies & TV player often gets overlooked but can actually perform quite well in specific scenarios like this one. It could be that the native app uses some proprietary rendering techniques that are optimized specifically for Windows 10.
However, it's worth diving into PotPlayer's settings and tweaking some of the rendering options. You may get close to what you're experiencing in the native app. Last edited by tebasuna51; 10th November 2023 at 13:39. Reason: spam |
9th November 2023, 14:50 | #12 | Link |
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Upscaling with Windows 10's Movies & TV player is broken on my system, seems to be using nearest neighbor (fast but very ugly)...
I would add that the UI is rubbish, the feature set is non-existent, and the updates via Windows store are awful.
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