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Old 10th September 2018, 13:21   #52341  |  Link
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Yeah I tried 385.28 but I find 23p is way off and MadVR can't create a custom res that will work well. Latest couple of drivers seem much better in that regard and MadVR can create a custom 23p res with no drops / repeats for over 20 hours
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Old 10th September 2018, 13:25   #52342  |  Link
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There doesn't seem to be a reliable way to switch bit depth inside the control panel either lol, always reverts back to 8 bit after a reboot or waking up from sleep, or at least it does for me...bloody Nvidia!

I did manage to create a custom res with CRU by putting in the info from MadVR (custom res listed under 'PC' in the Nvidia control panel), and I can switch between 8 bit and 12 bit no problem (apart from the 12 bit setting not surviving a reboot), but for some reason I can't get MadVR to use it, so if anyone knows a workaround for that, please let me know :-)
If set to 12bits at 30p or less before selecting the custom res, the driver displays 8bits when the custom res is applied, but it actually outputs 12bits (at 30p or less). I checked this with a Vertex.

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The way that works for me with 385.28 is to set it to 12 while watching a video when madVR has changed the refresh rate, it sticks then.. I'm not using any custom madVR created custom res modes.
I might give the new drivers a shot, but the problems with all versions after 385.28 have always left me wondering why I even bothered.
The main motivation for me to leave 385.28 behind was the better 3D. 13mn between frame drops vs 3mn between frame drops is significant.

If you're not a gamer and don't need 3D, 385.28 is the best version to use IMHO, especially if you need Asio4All with Win 10 build 1803.
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Old 10th September 2018, 13:39   #52343  |  Link
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AMD can't do HDR in windowed mode.

use whatever you like more.

AFAIK all entry level samsung HDR TV with 60 Hz panels are native 10 bit what ever that is worth.
no problem here autoswitch hdr in windowed mode.
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Old 10th September 2018, 13:45   #52344  |  Link
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- Once the 23p custom res is selected, the driver shows 8bits and can't be changed, but the output is actually 10bits. I check this with my Vertex.
Odd, my Receiver is reporting 8bit
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Old 10th September 2018, 13:57   #52345  |  Link
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no problem here autoswitch hdr in windowed mode.
can you make me a screen of the OSD.
my information are from the time madshi released a version supporting the AMD HDR API which is quite old now.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:04   #52346  |  Link
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are you talking about windows overlay mode in MADVR or windowed mode in your movieplayer, I use windowed mode in KODI DS player and HDR switch works fine, I dont have windows overlay ticked in MADVR.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:08   #52347  |  Link
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i'm talking about windowed d3d11 not windowed fullscreen not FSE and overlay is d3d9 only and doesn't work on AMD.

my information about AMD HDR using there API is that it needs either.
d3d11 10 bit windowed fullscreen
or d3d11 10 bit fullscreen exclusive.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:13   #52348  |  Link
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can you make me a screen of the OSD.
my information are from the time madshi released a version supporting the AMD HDR API which is quite old now.
opsss, i didn't understand that you mean something different from d3d11 10 bit windowed fullscreen.

so i don't know for other windowed modes I use windowed fullsceen. but i can try , if you can explain exactly what mode you refer and how to get it.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:33   #52349  |  Link
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i'm not really sure what you mean either now, as far as I know there are two prerequisites for AMD cards with HDR / MADVR - 1. tick use Direct3D11 for presentation ticked and 2. 10 bit set in properties\native display bit depth.

other than that I'm not aware of anything else makes any difference beyond send meta to display.

Happy to be re-educated though.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:35   #52350  |  Link
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the naming is confusion to say it friendly.

i can easily misunderstand him too i don't know if he mead fullscreen windowed or just "windowed"

windowed is the mode where the player isn't filling the screen.

maybe fullscreen windowed should be renamed to boarderless windowed that's used by games.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:36   #52351  |  Link
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Odd, my Receiver is reporting 8bit
I'll double check later today and I'll report back.
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Old 10th September 2018, 14:43   #52352  |  Link
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In KODI DS player there is full screen, full screen windowed and just windowed, HDR doesnt work in just windowed, has to be full screen or full screen windowed to work, although that didnt for my NVIDA 1050 card either but I havent bothered to try that for months so that must have changed.

Not sure i'f have a use for none full screen mode though.
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Old 10th September 2018, 16:56   #52353  |  Link
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Hi folks. I'm humbled to request your help. I know it's off topic somewhat. Please don't rip me new one for asking here. I'm desperate! I've sought confirmations for months in the appropriate forums elsewhere and it fell on deaf ears. I know many of you are testers and perhaps in the same boat, so to speak, and I value your conclusions. Here is the problem and why it's related to madVR somewhat:

Presently using official KODI v.17.6 with external players including MPC players with LAV and madVR and all is well. I want to start using official KODI v.18 and all is not well anymore. I want to present the problem to its bugtracker so it can be addressed before v.18 releases or goes release candidate (RC). I've been using nightlies since the 1st one up to the last.

An nVidia resolution change needs to occur when a 3D MVC frame packed (iso) title is called played via MPC, LAV, and madVR. I use a native refresh rate of 2160p for everything in my full chain 4k setup. Resolution needs to change from 2160p to 1080p for 3D compliance. madVR provides this change as it always has. KODI v.18 crashes when it does. v.17.6 does not and never did. I have no idea if it's my problem exclusively or widespread? No one has been willing to confirm or deny after asking many times, many different ways, in many different threads. So I'm here... begging and infringing.

What is required:
4k display.
nVidia GPU for certain or perhaps an AMD. ( I am unable to determine if other GPU's are affected) Also, I've tried with various drivers which made no difference.
Official KODI v.18 beta or nightly. No amount of settings fiddling made any difference such as fullscreen, windowed, fullscreen windowed, etc.
*note* You do not need 3D capability or even a title for that matter.

How to reproduce:
Open GPU control panel and set native resolution to 2160p. No other settings matter afaik.
Open KODI v.18 and leave it open. (no particular settings required afaik except that the GUI is set to 2160p which will be automatic since it matches GPU setting)
Window or any other method KODI so you can access your open GPU control panel.
Change resolution in GPU control panel to 1080p. You may have to change it back to 2160p before KODI crash happens but I didn't.

Either all is well with KODI and the crash is all my own or you too will notice KODI has resized, the GUI looks primitive, and it is unresponsive leading to a MS error report the moment you try to interact with the GUI.

Sorry to intrude. Please confirm or deny if possible and thank you in advance...
P.S. Reply here if acceptable and/or to thread linked in my signature and thank you again.
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Old 10th September 2018, 17:00   #52354  |  Link
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turn on logging and scroll through the created file in appdata kodi folder
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Old 10th September 2018, 17:13   #52355  |  Link
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Log was 1st diagnostic I did. Nothing to indicate in it. Advanced debug log can't create either. Crashes.
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Old 10th September 2018, 17:30   #52356  |  Link
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if you start KODI with your desktop in 1080p mode and setup KODI gui as 1080p does it still crash?
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Old 10th September 2018, 17:38   #52357  |  Link
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Of course not but using 1080p with a 2160p chain is not very appealing for desktop use and/or KODI GUI usage. Again, 17.6 works perfectly and always has. V.18 is a different story. Just seeking tester(s) duplicating exactly what I asked so I can submit a bug report on the bugtracker. Without a confirmation, it's futile. To make matters worse, there is only one Windows dev and he doesn't have any 4k test bed afaik. Thanks for your input though...
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Old 10th September 2018, 17:48   #52358  |  Link
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I have a bug when using MADVR refresh rate switching from 4k to 1080p when playing MVC 3D stuff, this is why i was asking. Try turning off refresh rate switching in MADVR and have your external player do it maybe?
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Old 10th September 2018, 18:09   #52359  |  Link
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I'm using official KODI. DSPlayer has your problem (built on 17.6 which is not version problem for me at all in any way). Turning off refresh rate in official KODI has nothing to do with external player refresh rates, only KODI internal VideoPlayer (which in your case is DSPlayer). Fwiw, I did turn it off/on just for kicks when testing but made no difference. I ran into problems in the past using match refresh rates in MPC external player(s) with no refresh rate control in madVR. Switching to allowing madVR to control them instead of the player(s) worked perfect and always has been since.

The variable here is v.17.6 (working perfect) vs v.18 (problematic). Unless someone actually tests and denies my results. Hoping for a confirmation because if it's my very own problem and not widespread, I will never (fix) my setup because I've no idea what is to blame and will never know tbh.
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Old 10th September 2018, 18:36   #52360  |  Link
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or you too will notice KODI has resized, the GUI looks primitive, and it is unresponsive leading to a MS error report the moment you try to interact with the GUI.
I get this sometimes when I close a 4k HDR film, no problem going to HDR but when I close the player (MPC-BE as external player) and go back from HDR to SDR , Kodi (17.6) is resized to a 4:3 format and looks extremely low res with big icons. I have to kill it through task manager and as soon as its killed, the desktop is back to normal. This only happens going from HDR back to SDR, and not all the time. No problem when not using Kodi.
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