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20th July 2013, 18:24 | #61 | Link |
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A quick question:
I've noticed that people said xysubfilter can be used with DXVA native. However, I don't seem to be able to use DXVA native, in ZoomPlayer, when using LAV video for decoding H264, xysubfilter, and madVR v0.86.10. As soon as I unregister xysubfilter, DXVA native works (there are no other subtitle filters registered on the system). I have disabled "Smart play" in ZoomPlayer to be able to see subtitles. xy-vsfilter is unregistered, so only xysubfilter is registered. XYSubFilter is configured with the default settings. Are there any specific requirements to be able to use DXVA native (in ZoomPlayer) ? |
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ASS subs were the reason for style not working, would be nice to force a style on them in the future. Styles are working fine on other text subs.
Thinking way ahead would there be any consideration in resizing image based subs (sup, vobsub, etc.)? Bdsup2sub can do this but it seems like a lot more work than is necessary.
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20th July 2013, 23:33 | #66 | Link |
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Okay, I read up a bit and it looks like each subtitle is rendered as its own bitmap - didn't think anyone would do that as it seems horribly inefficient.
Maybe incorporate some on-the-fly character recognition and replacement? Or - slightly (a lot?) easier to do - force vobsubs to be rendered in black and white. What I hate most of all is the yellow colour, get it white and I'd be much happier. |
20th July 2013, 23:35 | #67 | Link |
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They are images so no chance to change font but the colors are controlled by a palette thats configurable in *vsfilter. I'm not sure it works, nothing handy to test atm but vaguely remember mpc isr working fine to change colors.
Scaling options move image subtitles, the only thing that's missing that should be possible is resizing/zooming.
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20th July 2013, 23:42 | #68 | Link |
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Are there any known plans to make more xySubFilter subtitle consumers? As I can't use madVR because of my intel integrated graphics I'm using latest MPC-HC with LAVFilters and EVR-CP as video renderer and I'd like to use xySubFilter.
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21st July 2013, 03:23 | #69 | Link |
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Just for the record --- there ARE people who think quite the opposite, i.e., "simple white fonts" do not have sufficient visual contrast, and we prefer yellow subtitles to white subtitles. No, we don't like to manually edit the color palette in the .IDX files, but this is what we have to do now and then.
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Have you tested our new style override dialog for ASS subtitles in XySubFilter? Quote:
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In the meantime, you could always force a custom style for VOBSUBs by enabling "custom colors" in the IDX file and editing the style to your preferences. This is something VSFilter has always supported, but rarely used for some reason. No known plans at the moment, but MPC-HC at least seems to be considering the possibility. Last edited by cyberbeing; 21st July 2013 at 03:57. |
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21st July 2013, 04:30 | #71 | Link |
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MPC-HC has merged a change into the latest nightly to allow both xy-VSFilter (VSFilter.dll) & XySubFIlter to co-exist a bit better. This change will block VSFilter.dll from being used with madVR when XySubFilter is installed, while still allowing VSFilter to remain installed and be used with other video renderers. MPC-HC nightly builds can be found here
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I kinda liked the older revisions better: just block xy-vsfilter under external filters if you want to use XySubFilter, or set to "prefer" if you do in fact want to use it. Now, if you want to quickly switch to xy-vsfilter for a test you have to actually un-register XySubFilter. Well, it's a good enough quick fix for beginners...
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He means real-time OCR, i.e. internally converting to text based subs and then rendering with whatever style (font, color,...) you want. Everyone who has some experience with converting bitmap based subs to text based ones will know that this would be a very ambitious feature - even the programs that are specifically designed for the job and have had years of development still require lots of user-interaction regularly, so it's not really suited for full automation/real-time (at least with existing free libraries). Last edited by sneaker_ger; 21st July 2013 at 07:34. |
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Maybe you could request that MPC-HC add a registry key to toggle this behavior, like the hidden key they use to toggle the ISR blocking VSFilter behavior. Quote:
We also have an advanced multi-level caching mechanism in xy-VSFilter/XySubFilter which makes rendering identical portions of text subtitle lines use nearly zero CPU time. This caching is what makes Libass so much slower than xy-VSFilter at times. Libass is forced to re-render identical computational heavy operations every frame, while we render once and then pull it from our cache for future frames. Quote:
From what I can tell, all image based subtitles formats (VOBSUB/PGS/DVB) have a color palette, but the hard part would likely be knowing which color of the palette to modify. Overall since our focus has mainly been on text subtitles, any features such as this would best be requested of MPC-HC or MPC-BE who actually work on improving the code for image based formats. Last edited by cyberbeing; 21st July 2013 at 08:15. |
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21st July 2013, 11:45 | #76 | Link | |
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Yeah vivan, as you discovered yourself in your edit, both .\sub unable to be created and the default path entries unable to be deleted are behaviors inherited from VSFilter which have never been fixed or modified.
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No idea why this is, but this was what Gabest set as the default behavior when he originally created VSFilter and nobody ever thought to change it. Eventually, this legacy search path behavior will likely be scraped and replaced with something more feature rich. Until then, it is how it is. |
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The argument is a lot stronger for live-action movies, but even there I find them too intrusive, and white wouldn't upset my viewing as much. But here I would also say that yellow could be a better option in many circumstances. Quote:
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Shame, didn't realise it was that difficult to do. |
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21st July 2013, 13:06 | #79 | Link |
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Can you please implement a feature to save & reopen last selected properties tab? It will be especially handy considering the current workaround for taking screenshots with subtitles. Timing corrections will also benefit from this.
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21st July 2013, 13:11 | #80 | Link |
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We'll look into it, I created Issue #158. In the future, feel free to make such feature requests directly on our bug tracker.
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