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17th December 2016, 03:24 | #25361 | Link | |
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Take that same DVD and play it in your computer and I'll bet that it won't have any problem being displayed, no mater the resolution or frame rate. The only issue could possibly be the damn region coding. Overseas you will find it really difficult to find a DVD player that will not play both 480i and 576i DVDs. It has been that way for ages, because people imported a lot of US releases and basically forced the selling of multi-standard DVD players. Many TVs/monitors were also multi-standard. That said, I have an older DVD player that will handle all regions and both frame rates. Because it is sold in the U.S., it outputs the video as NTSC. Only because multi-standard TVs were not the norm here. I now have a Blu-ray/DVD player that is all region (BD or DVD) and will play all resolutions. |
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Since DVD encryption was hacked ages ago, software became available that not only allowed for the copying of DVDs, it also allowed for the ignoring of the region codes. That allowed people to play 576i region 2,4 DVDs on their computers. No such thing as PAL/NTSC when playing DVDs on a computer system. Quote:
I will always try and point out that NTSC and PAL no longer exists in the mainstream. Yes, there are still those that only have DVD players and possibly only analog TVS. But, the main stream these days is digital, either HD or SD (for those damn subchannels). Ever since Jan 1, 2014, Blu-ray players could no longer be manufactured with analog outputs, HDMI only (there were execptions). No more NTSC, or PAL, analog outputs. No more NTSC, or PAL, period. The HDMI display device needed to be able to handle the frame rates of the user's discs. Hard to believe, but there seem to be display devices that do not handle 576i50. While looking for a computer display device (VGA/DVI/HDMI), it was hard find those that listed the complete specs. Most were generic listings. I hope you all can see where I am coming from. |
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17th December 2016, 14:35 | #25366 | Link |
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3D source with several 3D clips:
a. When selecting Full backup mode all 3D clips are reencoded/remuxed in MVC format b. When selecting Full backup mode and selecting "Enable SBS/OU 3D Movie-Only output", all clips are encoded as 2D only, and none as 3D SBS. Would it be possible to have all 3D clips encoded SBS/OU for case b. (=Full backup in SBS/OU format)? |
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There have been people who have labeled 1080i/p 59.94/29.97 as NTSC and 1080i50 as PAL. Impossible. DGDecNV's status column on the left used to label HD video as NTSC as well. Several versions ago after I posted on his forum that NTSC/PAL HD doesn't exist, he removed the label. I do not remember if he still labels SD video as NTSC/PAL, since I haven't sent 480i, or 576i, thru the program in ages.
What started all of this off was a poster wanted to convert 576i to 480i Blu-ray. I should run a test with a Doctor Who DVD to see if just repackaging the MPEG-2 files onto a Blu-ray will play in one of my older Blu-ray players. I know it will play in the newest player as it will play the DVD itself just fine. If the Samsung player that I have does, it wouldn't mean that every other manufacturer's Blu-ray player will. It isn't mandatory that U.S. players play 25/50. Now I'm curious to see if it will work, or not. |
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Either way -- let's get back on topic. This is a bug thread. If we want to discuss it more, let's open another thread for it. Last edited by jdobbs; 17th December 2016 at 17:31. |
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Table 6.4 General Characteristics of BDMV Presentation Data Frame rate: 24/23.976 fps (film) [sic!] 29.97/59.94 fps (NTSC) [sic!] 25/50 fps (mandatory in PAL regions only) |
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OH...the irony!!! Last edited by gonca; 17th December 2016 at 22:59. |
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You need to read the book. NTSC/PAL is used correctly in many places in referring to the terms with television standard. It is unfortunate how the author used the terms in that particular table.
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OK, my test of creating a BD with content from a 576i50 DVD is complete. First off, the new feature to allow menu creation with a single menu item works. Thanks for that.
The video played just fine in my pre-Cinavia infested Blu-ray player. But, that doesn't mean that it will in all players. My guess is that it will. It seems rather dumb that a Blu-ray player has to play 1080i50 and not be able to play 576i50 MPEG-2 videos. So, there is no need to convert 576i50 to 480i59.94. You just need to copy the VOB files on the DVD into one big TS file (VOB files are TS files). In the case of the DVD in my test, there are three episodes on the disc, so there are three separate VOB groups, one for each episode. You can then import the TS files from all the DVD VOBs that you copied to TS files. By copy I actually mean concatenate. When you import the TS files in BDRB, you will first edit the menu. Then you will let it import the files. When the importing and menu creation is completed, do not hit the backup button. At this point, burn the BDMV and CERTIFICATE directories onto a BD. I do suggest burning a test BD on BD-RE media first. There is one big issue with the above method and that is that there are no chapter marks. Because I have the VideoReDo program, I can extract stuff from DVDs and keep the chapter marks. By having VRD output a MKV file, the chapter marks are intact and BD-RB will use those chapter marks. I do not know of any other way to keep chapter marks. Other forum members might have ways of doing it. Last edited by MrVideo; 18th December 2016 at 08:25. |
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