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Old 21st September 2014, 16:34   #21201  |  Link
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Listen. You don't want to post logs, you don't want to post INSPECT results -- in other words you don't want to help. All you want to do is complain and post nonsense trying to make it seem as if you are right.

Here's a news flash for you: You're not.

I, and the others here, have no time for this nonsense. Either do what I say to correct your issue... or go away. Reinstall the apps I said.

It's simple. Your issue is YOUR issue. It affects no one else. C'mon -- a little logic wouldn't hurt, don't you think? All the "sighing" in the world doesn't make you any less wrong. It just makes you look more foolish.

My testimonials are the logs in its own right, but you and the likes don't seem to accept or care what i have found out about bdrb !!

Posting logs have done lil to no good in the past for me, been there done that !!

It alway's comes down to user error to you poeple !!

Well, iam done wasting time to search for logs everywhere just to get ignored / disregard by you and the like eventually !!

No, be glad i took atleast the time to post my bdrb experience/results so that you and others that may be in the same boat like me might learn something from my experience ...

Its not about right or wrong, but about comon sense !!
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To whom it may concern (Toilet Duck)
Using latest BD_RB ... no issues
reporting issues -- I have reported issues in the past with the appropriate logs and jdobbs responded appropriately.
Is this a new user name your using because your writing style looks familiar, like the person who kept bringing up old change logs for DVD_RB to prove that it still has issues with multi angle titles
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My testimonials are the logs in its own right, but you and the likes don't seem to accept or care what i have found out about bdrb !!

Posting logs have done lil to no good in the past for me, been there done that !!

It alway's comes down to user error to you poeple !!

Well, iam done wasting time to search for logs everywhere just to get ignored / disregard by you and the like eventually !!

No, be glad i took atleast the time to post my bdrb experience/results so that you and others that may be in the same boat like me might learn something from my experience ...

Its not about right or wrong, but about comon sense !!
Your posts are useless. Your attitude sucks. You want to help in any way except post what is needed. Logs ignored? You've made a total of 5 posts -- all worthless rants -- and have never posted a single log.

Happy to see you go. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
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Old 21st September 2014, 23:09   #21204  |  Link
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I hope this isn't too off topic but I wanted to apologize to jdobbs for the crass behavior of Toilet-Duck. He seems incapable of following directions from people who are trying to [I]help[I] him. If he isn't willing to take their advice then why bother asking for help? In every case where I have had a problem with BD-RB it was self inflicted and jdobbs bends over backwards to assist with problems. Then to be treated like he is some clueless noob. Have some respect for this very talented individual who has given of himself and created a brilliant program, not once, but twice in BD-RB and DVDRebuilder. Believe me, in every sense this is your problem. If you aren't going to take his advice then leave him alone!
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Old 22nd September 2014, 00:50   #21205  |  Link
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Also, if the app is so perfect why i do read many posts from members which not the least of all "chevron" stating that he/she went back to an previous beta release because of problems that has occured and couldnt be resolved unless he went back to an older build to accomplish an succesfull project.

Weird enough, i didn't read any reply from you @chevrons telling that his/her misconfigured system must be causing this !!



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I stated NO SUCH THING. I said something on YOUR system was causing the out of sync issues, not on mine. I also never said i went back to an older version to "fix" things, going back doesn't fix things, it avoids issues. Wanna know why i never said that, perhaps because i don't have out of sync issues and never have gone back.

Jdobbs doesn't have to tell me it might be because of my misconfigured system, because my system ISNT misconfigured. Don't twist my words mate. My helper aps are the correct versions, properly configured as per instructions, no additional codec packs installed and BDRB runs flawlessly. You'll end up on the losing side.

Now i'll say this one last time.

If you have sync issues then

1) post a log from an encode that has those issues
2) post the inspect results from BDRB > Help > Inspect

We can't help you until you provide us with the info we need to do it. If you still don't want to, well. Then as Jdobbs said, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Cause you'll have to update to a version beyond 47.07 eventually. It won't last forever.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 01:57   #21206  |  Link
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Just a quickie... Out of curiosity, I opened the vid.avs file during the first pass of an encode (perennially curious, what can I say ) Anyway, in that it says that it has loaded the frimsource.dll...??? Is that something that BDRB just does every time? I'm not processing a 3D film; it's just an old 2D Blu-ray. I'm not resizing or doing anything out of the ordinary; I was just really curious as to why it loaded this dll.

Oh, and I almost ALWAYS use internal LAVF for everything.

I guess I should add this too, just for clarity:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.48.05 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\EXECUTABLES\BD-RBV04805\BD_Rebuilder\tools\frimsource.dll")
FRIMSource(codec="h264",filename="C:\_______MEDIA\__TSMUXER\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",
container="ts",platform="sw",num_frames=182568,cache=24)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

Thanks!

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Just a quickie... Out of curiosity, I opened the vid.avs file during the first pass of an encode (perennially curious, what can I say ) Anyway, in that it says that it has loaded the frimsource.dll...??? Is that something that BDRB just does every time? I'm not processing a 3D film; it's just an old 2D Blu-ray. I'm not resizing or doing anything out of the ordinary; I was just really curious as to why it loaded this dll.

Oh, and I almost ALWAYS use internal LAVF for everything.

I guess I should add this too, just for clarity:

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.48.05 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\EXECUTABLES\BD-RBV04805\BD_Rebuilder\tools\frimsource.dll")
FRIMSource(codec="h264",filename="C:\_______MEDIA\__TSMUXER\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts",
container="ts",platform="sw",num_frames=182568,cache=24)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(24000,1001)

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BD-RB always creates an AVS, even if it isn't used. When LAVF is selected, it is created with FRIM. That's because LAVF is the default encode method when Directshow isn't installed. But... unless you are doing some kind of special resizing (like 16:9 conversion or widen) the AVS isn't used at all.

Just for the sake of better encoding, I'll look at changing it so that it uses Directshow when it is available and only FRIM when it isn't. Either way it doesn't matter 90% of the time -- because LAVF mode doesn't use it anyway.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 05:23   #21208  |  Link
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Update to last post about my SSD. It seems to be related to heat(?). Usually my SSD is cool, but it is between 2 HDDs and I was keeping it pretty active... If repeatable, I'll update.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 05:54   #21209  |  Link
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Batch Process Bug?- Issue with Quality Setting

Hello,

When I add to the batch queue one or more jobs with the same quality settings, I see no issues. What I am having issues with if I add to the batch queue one quality setting, but then add another job with a different quality setting. The quality setting for one does not stick.

For example,

I added Ghostbusters with a Full backup, BD-25, Highest Quality to the batch. It started on the correct quality setting. See log (I aborted on purpose):

[22:33:13] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
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[09/21/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[22:33:14] Source: GHOSTBUSTERS
- Input BD size: 32.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:31.454]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]

>>> - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), ABR

- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:33:14] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [22:33:14] Processing: VID_00002 (1 of 3)
- [22:33:14] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
- [22:33:36] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 6,863 frames
- Bitrate: 5,906 Kbs
- [22:33:36] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 1
[22:33:38]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
[22:33:38] BATCH ABORTED...
==========================
[22:33:39] END - BATCH SEQUENCE

But then I added another job for another blu-ray with Automatic settings, which sets it to Good Quality.
Batch tab looks like this:

+ GHOSTBUSTERS, Full-Backup, BD-25, Highest Quality
+ GODZILLA_1988, Full-Backup, BD-25, Good Quality

When I start the Batch Backup Ghostbusters starts encoding on Good Quality settings and not Highest Quality (I aborted):

[22:34:19] PROCESSING BATCH FILE [1]
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[09/21/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.05 (beta)
[22:34:19] Source: GHOSTBUSTERS
- Input BD size: 32.45 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:59:31.454]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
>>> - Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
- Encoding cancelled.
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Posting logs have done lil to no good in the past for me, been there done that !!
Are these your old logs? Zzzzzzzz...
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Old 22nd September 2014, 09:28   #21211  |  Link
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@jedihyte

Just a thought, maybe a bit awkward, but have you tried this:

--> Save each job to "Save Project" file (.epr)
--> Open project one by one and "Add Current Project to Batch Queue"
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Old 22nd September 2014, 11:30   #21212  |  Link
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If he isn't willing to take their advice then why bother asking for help?
I never asked for help, nor did i expect help from this place !!
I just wanted to tell the people what to expect from certain builds!!

Hell, i have pretty much solved every darn issue i have had with bdrb myself pretty much !!

Thanks but no thanks


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I stated NO SUCH THING. I said something on YOUR system was causing the out of sync issues, not on mine. I also never said i went back to an older version to "fix" things, going back doesn't fix things, it avoids issues.
You never EVAR went back to an older build to avoid issues with the last build you dare to say !!? ...

Here's is what you NOT ONLY HAVE SAID/WROTE but have DONE to workarround an isue .. and i direct quote ↓

And pay attention to the line "swapped to 48.02" !!!

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well it refuses on my end with 48.03 nothing changed except replacing the folder contents with that of the zip by copy/paste&replace. Copying the folder to like C:\ root doesn't help. Same trying a different ISO. Same thing reading directly from optical drive. Swap to 48.02. Problem solved on both iso reading and optical drive.
↑ be it as it may, one can cleary deduce from the logs you went from 48.03 to 48.02 for whatever reason may be !!


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Hello,

When I add to the batch queue one or more jobs with the same quality settings, I see no issues. What I am having issues with if I add to the batch queue one quality setting, but then add another job with a different quality setting. The quality setting for one does not stick.

For example,

I added Ghostbusters with a Full backup, BD-25, Highest Quality to the batch. It started on the correct quality setting. See log (I aborted on purpose):
Now , i dont have any logs to back it up ! But same happend to me with bdrb 48.xx, i just forgot to add it to an long list with issues !!!

just happened to have done this same movie "ghost busters" in batch mode allong with 4 other movies using bdrb 47.07 succesfully .

The quality settings depending on the content (extras etc) of the bluray disks variated from high CQ to Highest and did stick in batch ..

Only thing is when you change any settings in option menu, you have to redo the whole thing and add new batch queue's !!

Stick to 47.07 for the time beeing i suggest..



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I warned you not to twist my words, or you'd end up on the losing side. So without further adue lets get started shall we?

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Here's is what you NOT ONLY HAVE SAID/WROTE but have DONE to workarround an isue .. and i direct quote ↓

And pay attention to the line "swapped to 48.02" !!!
Twist 1: If you had actually bothered to read the previous & followup replies by me and jdobbs you would have read that that issue was caused by a change JDOBBS made to BDRB by making frim the default rendered. IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE WITH MY SYSTEM

DING DING DING: you lose

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↑ be it as it may, one can cleary deduce from the logs you went from 48.03 to 48.02 for whatever reason may be !!
A REPLY is NOT A LOG. A log is what BDRB output's during encoding. Here's a small example

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[09/01/14] BD Rebuilder v0.48.02 (beta)
[23:30:55] Source: DIVERGENT
- Input BD size: 44,69 GB
- Approximate total content: [04:34:45.388]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.0 [6002]
- MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
- Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
- Output folder: C:\BDRB Rebuilds\
- Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [2-way]
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
Hmmz, what's that. Oh wait, an ENCODING LOG. Where did i find that? Oh wait in the file called BD-REBUILDER.LOG


DING DING DING. You lose AGAIN

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Now , i dont have any logs to back it up ! But same happend to me with bdrb 48.xx, i just forgot to add it to an long list with issues !!!
Yes you do. Every disc you run BDRB writes the encoding output in a file called BD-REBUILDER.LOG which is located in your directory you specified under "Working Path"

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Only thing is when you change any settings in option menu, you have to redo the whole thing and add new batch queue's !!
That's because those changes have an impact on disc output. They don't change any values on projects already added to the batch queue, only on NEW jobs you add to the queue

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Stick to 47.07 for the time beeing i suggest..
Bad suggestion, 48.05 works just fine if your system's helper tools are correctly configured.

But then again we don't know yours are do we? As you still havent provide a single encoding log or inspect results so we can verify they are. If your helper tool settings would be correctly configured and you had sync issues with 48.05 THEN it could potentially be a bug (or in most cases usually a corrupt rip). However we can't verify they are or arent until you provide that encoding log and inspect results.


So quit beating around the bush and ranting.

Provide that encoding log, (from any version that "makes" you have sync issues) and the inspect results. Then come back, until you do. Quit polluting the debug thread with an issue that's likely not even a bug.

* closes door behind you *
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Typical response. I've seen a hundred times.

I'm wrong and everyone knows it, so instead of admitting it I'm going to start writing multiple long diatribes explaining how right I am. I may even make up things or modify the facts to support me. No matter what, I have to somehow make it seem as if I'm right. The entire world may disagree with me but I'm obviously right. I didn't post any logs or useful information -- so I'll start calling my "testimonials" logs. I know my system is misconfigured because I did it my self -- so I can't post logs or inspect results. But that couldn't be the issue -- because I'm obviously right. The version works for everybody on the entire planet except for me -- but apparently they're too stupid to know it's not working, because I'm clearly right.
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Well, iam done wasting time to search for logs everywhere just to get ignored / disregard by you and the like eventually !!
Promises, promises. I thought you were going away... but I should have known better, because you are convinced that somehow, despite the overriding and obvious facts -- you must be right. ????

Just go away. You are annoying and a burden to an otherwise productive thread. Every post makes you look a little more foolish.

Oh... and by the way, maybe you should learn that there is a such thing as a "paragraph". It's a new-fangled invention that combines related thoughts into a single unit to add clarity.
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Back on Topic

Here's where I must put on my moderator hat. The thread has been pulled way off topic (Toilet-Duck's responses have even managed to get me to violate the rule).

Now, though, I need to correct that. Any more off-topic discussion will be dealt with appropriately. Strikes may follow.
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I'll do some testing with BATCH processing and see if I can repeat your issue. It sounds like the quality variable isn't being properly read from the BATCH settings and it is keeping what was last set. I did some changes to the QUALITY variable recently -- so it's likely I've screwed it up somehow.
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@jedihyte

I'll do some testing with BATCH processing and see if I can repeat your issue. It sounds like the quality variable isn't being properly read from the BATCH settings and it is keeping what was last set. I did some changes to the QUALITY variable recently -- so it's likely I've screwed it up somehow.
I have seen the same behaviour. I posted about it back in January. Just in case it includes anything that might be useful in pinpointing the bug, this is a link to the post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...66#post1662166
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I have seen the same behaviour. I posted about it back in January. Just in case it includes anything that might be useful in pinpointing the bug, this is a link to the post:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...66#post1662166
Thanks. I went through the code. This isn't something new -- it looks like it has been around awhile. I've fixed it for the next release.
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Old 22nd September 2014, 20:31   #21219  |  Link
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I recently tried to make a BD25 of 300 Rise of an Empire and Edge of Tomorrow, they both are out of sync. When I mux both movies to a .iso before I encode they are still fine but after BDRebuilder finishes they are out of sync. Both use DTSHD tracks. So, I also tried another movie I did that had TrueHD recently and it was fine. I tried both movies again and same results with being out of sync. Anyone experience this recently? Everything has been working fine for a long time but just noticed this recently so I went back to check other movies I did also but they all seem fine. I encoded from 2 different USB drives both times back to a sata. Thanks

Code:
[Options]
VERSION=0.48.0.2
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=5
ONEPASS_ENCODING=2
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=0
TARGET_SIZE=24500
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=chi;eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=1
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=0
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=1
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
AUTO_BLANK=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24500
PRIORITY_CLASS=0
UNMASK_CHAPTER=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
AUTO_BURN=0
RESIZE_1440=0
OUTPUT_3D=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
IGNORE_3D=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
VERBOSE_STATUS=1
ENCODER=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
DECODER=1
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=E:\
WORKING_PATH=K:\BDREBUILD\

[Status]
LABEL=EDGE.OF.TOMORROW
VERSION=v0.48.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=27701661696
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=27701661696
TARGET_SIZE=25690112000
REDUCTION=.927385233489785
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=chi;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=25690112000
RATE=22356
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0

[Status]
LABEL=300.RISE.OF.AN.EMPIRE
VERSION=v0.48.02 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=26889486336
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=26889486336
TARGET_SIZE=25690112000
REDUCTION=.955396160379819
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=-1
SUBS_TO_KEEP=chi;eng;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=1
DGDECNV=0
DGDECIM=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
FFMS2=-1
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=1
PGS=1000
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=25690112000
RATE=24873
SPLITS=1
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0


[09/22/14] Checking System Settings
  - BD-Rebuilder v0.48.02 (beta)
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Working Path Free Space: 22.10GB
  - AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
  - X264:  Ok
  - AFTEN:  Ok
  - FAAC:  Ok
  - MP4BOX:  Ok
  - WAVI:  Ok
  - TSMUXER:  Ok
  - FRIMEncode:  Ok
  - FRIMDecode:  Ok
[09/22/14] Systems Settings Check complete

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Your were instructed to get back on topic by a moderator and were warned that a strike would follow. You ignored the instruction. Your posts have been removed and you have been issued a strike.

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