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Old 13th February 2011, 02:26   #11241  |  Link
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The large target size was causing an overflow in one of my variables. I've fixed it for the next release.
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Old 13th February 2011, 02:40   #11242  |  Link
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The large target size was causing an overflow in one of my variables. I've fixed it for the next release.
jdobbs, thank you for the quick response! I'll be looking forward to the next release then. Thanks again!

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Old 13th February 2011, 05:32   #11243  |  Link
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It appears that using LAVF is now MUCH slower than not using it. Jobs normaly taking 8-10 hours or so are now in the 18-hour range (highest quality).
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Old 13th February 2011, 05:53   #11244  |  Link
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It appears that using LAVF is now MUCH slower than not using it. Jobs normaly taking 8-10 hours or so are now in the 18-hour range (highest quality).
Have you tried it with both or are you simply making an unsubstantiated statement?

I've personally done lots of testing and LAVF is faster or equal in every test I've done (on the systems I use) -- and it is almost always faster on a 64 bit system. Nothing is impossible -- but I'd suggest you post something to substantiate what you're saying other than "it appears".

You can always uncheck LAVF... I'd be interested in seeing the LOG of any differences you find running the exact same job with the same settings in both modes. If you do find differences, I'd also like to hear whether it changes if you step back to a previous version of X264.
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Old 13th February 2011, 09:51   #11245  |  Link
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On this new version (v0.37.04) I'm not able to check the box in Setup for Audio Languages to Keep "Limit to one track . . ." I check it and hit Save Changes, but it will not take. Also, If I choose BD-5 and Movie Only, and I check "Limit to one track " and hit Save, the settings will revert back to BD-25 and Full movie. I went back to v0.37.01 to try it, and it works fine.
Perhaps you are using Windows 7 and placed BD RB in the Program Files folder? If so, Windows settings virtualization (or whatever the proper name is) will interfere and cause your problem. The solution is either to install elsewhere or run the program with Administrator privileges.
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Have you tried it with both or are you simply making an unsubstantiated statement?

I've personally done lots of testing and LAVF is faster or equal in every test I've done (on the systems I use) -- and it is almost always faster on a 64 bit system. Nothing is impossible -- but I'd suggest you post something to substantiate what you're saying other than "it appears".

You can always uncheck LAVF... I'd be interested in seeing the LOG of any differences you find running the exact same job with the same settings in both modes. If you do find differences, I'd also like to hear whether it changes if you step back to a previous version of X264.
Fair enough. I'll try to compare apples to apples as soon as I burn through my substantial backlog.
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Old 13th February 2011, 16:23   #11247  |  Link
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Meh, BDRB is in my program folders and runs without any issue. Then again i do got that annoying UAC switched off (on my vista)
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Old 13th February 2011, 16:34   #11248  |  Link
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Fair enough. I'll try to compare apples to apples as soon as I burn through my substantial backlog.
Well... I ran a couple of jobs overnight on the same stream with and without LAVF, and at least on this one (a 115,000 frame 1080p VC-1 source) LAVF was indeed significantly slower (52 minutes vs 45 minutes), even though it was using the 64 bit version.

I'm setting up some tests for AVC and MPEG-2 sources.

It used to be faster in most cases, so I'm not sure what has happened -- but I'm changing it back so LAVF isn't the default anymore on the next release.
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Does LAVF take more advantage of extra memory?

The reason I ask is that I have two systems that I use for rebuilds. The first is Windows 7 Pro x64 with a Q9400 and 8GB of memory. The second is Windows 7 Home Premium x64 with a Q6600 and only 4GB of memory.

I would expect the second to be a little slower because of the processor, but could the memory size be a major factor, as well?
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BD-50 to DVD9 and BD-25

Reducing a retail BD-50, ripped with AnyDVD HD, to a DVD9, through version 0.37.04, produce a playable DVD9 on my Oppo-93. If I try to produce a full BD-25, although there are no errors reported in log, this player will consider the burned disc as an Unknown disc and refuse to play it. The burned disc plays fine with Arc Theater. I've tried several unsuccessful tweaking with relevant settings but still, do not know what could be wrongly set. Is it a known issue with Oppo ?
Any hints would help as I've tried this procedure over several retail BD-50 with same results. Thanks.
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Reducing a retail BD-50, ripped with AnyDVD HD, to a DVD9, through version 0.37.04, produce a playable DVD9 on my Oppo-93. If I try to produce a full BD-25, although there are no errors reported in log, this player will consider the burned disc as an Unknown disc and refuse to play it. The burned disc plays fine with Arc Theater. I've tried several unsuccessful tweaking with relevant settings but still, do not know what could be wrongly set. Is it a known issue with Oppo ?
Any hints would help as I've tried this procedure over several retail BD-50 with same results. Thanks.
Are you burning with Imgburn or some other package?
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Hi guys
I'm using this great program for some time. About 80% procent of backups were successful, but I also have the same error with some movies.
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- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.7.0, Ok
- HAALI Splitter: Ok
- FFDSHOW: 3326, Ok
- WIN7 preferred AVC CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred VC-1 CODEC: Ok
- WIN7 preferred MPEG2 CODEC: Ok
- FFDSHOW VC-1 set to "wmv9", Ok
- FFDSHOW MPEG2 set to "libavcodec": Ok
- FFDSHOW AVC set to "libavcodec": Ok
- BD Rebuilder v0.37.0.4, Ok
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok

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[22:59:41BD Rebuilder v0.37.03 (beta)
  - 
Source:  SALT_DIRECTOR'S_CUT_3IN1_RO
  - Input BD size: 44,82 GB
  - Approximate total content: [06:12:49.344]
  - Target BD size: 22,56 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
  - Auto Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
[22:59:41] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [22:59:41] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00021]
 - [22:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00021 (1 of 36)
 - [22:59:41] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 24 frames
 - [22:59:41] Reencoding: VID_00021, Pass 1 of 1
 - [22:59:42] Video Encode complete
 - [22:59:42] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'
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 - [
22:59:42Multiplexing M2TS
 
- [22:59:43Extracting A/V streams [VID_00022]
 - [
22:59:43ReencodingVID_00022 (2 of 36)
 - [
22:59:43Collecting video information
   
Source VideoMPEG-21920x1080
   
Rate/Length23,976fps72 frames
 
- [22:59:43ReencodingVID_00022Pass 1 of 1
 
- [22:59:44Video Encode complete
 
- [22:59:44Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [22:59:44] Multiplexing M2TS
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 - [22:59:46] Reencoding: VID_00119 (3 of 36)
 - [22:59:46] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
 - [22:59:50] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 459 frames
   - Bitrate: 12.042 Kbs
 - [22:59:50] Reencoding: VID_00119, Pass 1 of 2
 - [23:00:01] Reencoding: VID_00119, Pass 2 of 2
 - [23:00:12] Video Encode complete
 - [23:00:13] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'
d)
 - [
23:00:13Multiplexing M2TS
 
- [23:00:14Extracting A/V streams [VID_00117]
 - [
23:00:16ReencodingVID_00117 (4 of 36)
 - [
23:00:16Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
 - [
23:00:16Collecting video information
   
Source VideoMPEG-(AVC), 1920x1080
   
Rate/Length23,976fps496 frames
   
Bitrate12.526 Kbs
 
- [23:00:16ReencodingVID_00117Pass 1 of 2
 
- [23:00:27ReencodingVID_00117Pass 2 of 2
 
- [23:00:39Video Encode complete
 
- [23:00:39Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [23:00:39] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [23:00:40] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00140]
 - [23:00:43] Reencoding: VID_00140 (5 of 36)
 - [23:00:43] Collecting video information
   
 
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 23.989 frames
   - Bitrate: 9.289 Kbs
 - [00:08:33] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 1 of 2
 - [00:15:31] Reencoding: VID_00139, Pass 2 of 2
 - [00:22:41] Video Encode complete
 - [00:22:41] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'
d)
 - [
00:22:41Multiplexing M2TS
 
- [00:23:33Extracting A/V streams [VID_00160]
 - [
00:25:28ReencodingVID_00160 (35 of 36)
 - [
00:25:28Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]
 - [
00:25:50Collecting video information
   
Source VideoMPEG-(AVC), 1920x1080
   
Rate/Length23,976fps23.946 frames
 
- [00:25:50ReencodingVID_00160Pass 1 of 1
 
- [00:32:54Video Encode complete
 
- [00:32:54Reencoding audio tracks (if req'd)
 - [00:32:54] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [00:33:30] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [00:43:23] Reencoding: VID_00011 (36 of 36)
 - [00:43:23] Collecting video information
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 163.821 frames
   - Bitrate: 10.200 Kbs
 - [00:43:23] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
 - [01:31:27] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
 - [02:22:01] Video Encode complete
 - [02:22:01] Reencoding audio tracks (if req'
d)
 - [
02:22:01Multiplexing M2TS
 
[COLOR="Red"]- Error in attempt to multiplexMUX_00011.meta
 
Can't open file: F:\BD REMUX\SALT\WORKFILES[/COLOR]\VID_00011_2.AVS.264
[02:22:01] - Failed to build structure, aborted 
Same problem with "2012", "Last airbender", "Let me in" and "The Expendables"
Any help is appreciated.
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Old 14th February 2011, 14:22   #11253  |  Link
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Are you reencoding an original disc? It sounds like BD Rebuilder is attempting to remux -- but the secondary video track doesn't exist. That can happen when someone preprocesses and leaves out the secondary video. It appears there should have been a line like the one below for the last (00011) stream:

- [00:xx:xx] Reencoding secondary video [TRK_02]

I successfully backed up the US versions of "2012", "Last Airbender", "The Expendables", and "Salt" -- all from the original disc and all with no issues.

I'll rerun SALT and see if anything has changed...
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Old 14th February 2011, 15:39   #11254  |  Link
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Are you reencoding an original disc?
No, they are not. I think this is it.
Can I do something?
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Old 14th February 2011, 20:06   #11255  |  Link
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Hi!:

"jdobbs" asked:
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Are you reencoding an original disc?
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No, they are not.
Discussion of such source material is a "no-no" at the Doom9 Forums...
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Old 15th February 2011, 07:29   #11256  |  Link
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just a clarification for step 8
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8. Recommended for Windows XP only: Download and install WMV11 from Microsoft, and set VC-1 decoding to "disabled" in FFDSHOW (allowing the WMV11 codec to be used). This seems to be the codec with the fewest problem on VC-1. For Vista or Windows 7 -- select "wmv9"
are we talking about the FFDShow encoder configurations -> on the "decoder" tab -> codecs -> VC-1,
or ffdshow video configurations -> codecs -> VC-1,
or both?
I have wmv9 (for win7) set on the video config codecs setting, but i am wondering if i should also set it in the encoder config -> decoder tab -> codecs -> VC-1 also.

i am just trying to get better results with interlaced VC-1 source material. not sure if this will help or if this will be a self-inflicted screw up.

as it is now, the VC-1 codec in encoder config -> decoding tab -> codecs is set to "disabled".

thanks

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Old 15th February 2011, 13:53   #11257  |  Link
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just a clarification for step 8

are we talking about the FFDShow encoder configurations -> on the "decoder" tab -> codecs -> VC-1,
or ffdshow video configurations -> codecs -> VC-1,
or both?
I have wmv9 (for win7) set on the video config codecs setting, but i am wondering if i should also set it in the encoder config -> decoder tab -> codecs -> VC-1 also.

i am just trying to get better results with interlaced VC-1 source material. not sure if this will help or if this will be a self-inflicted screw up.

as it is now, the VC-1 codec in encoder config -> decoding tab -> codecs is set to "disabled".

thanks
Not sure what you mean by the boldfaced encoder configuration? I think you must be talking about the VFW configuration utility... which really doesn't matter.

You are selecting decoders through the "Video Decoders Configuration" utility's CODEC screen (although CODEC does stand for coder/decoder). The selected decoder is used during the process to decode the video and serve it a frame at a time to X264 for reencoding. On Windows 7 VC-1 should be set to "wmv9". It's unpredictable what will happen if you set it to "disabled" and depends what else you have installed that might pick up the decoding. Setting it to LIBAVCODEC will work on some sources -- but doesn't support interlacing.

WMV9 on Windows 7 works with every source I've tried and I'm using it now. There are a couple of oddities related to VC-1 field-based picture formats (rather than frame based) that cause HAALI to hiccup when the source is an M2TS -- but BD Rebuilder recognizes that and adjusts for it by converting to MKV on-the-fly during the processing.
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Does LAVF take more advantage of extra memory?

The reason I ask is that I have two systems that I use for rebuilds. The first is Windows 7 Pro x64 with a Q9400 and 8GB of memory. The second is Windows 7 Home Premium x64 with a Q6600 and only 4GB of memory.

I would expect the second to be a little slower because of the processor, but could the memory size be a major factor, as well?
Again, will LAVF take advantage of extra memory?
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Again, will LAVF take advantage of extra memory?
Encode times are processor related, with memory having a minor effect. Only if you are trying to multi-task during an encode might more memory be a benefit.
( assuming you have at least 2 GB ! )
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@jdobbs Can you please take a look?
Has anyone made backup of LET_ME_IN?
My backup failed here is my logs.

[17:28:35] BD Rebuilder v0.37.04 (beta)
- Source: LET_ME_IN
- Input BD size: 28.86 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:55:47.940]
- Target BD size: 22.95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7600]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:28:35] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:28:35] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
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[18:24:36] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted
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