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Old 2nd May 2018, 08:10   #50541  |  Link
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In the latest Win10 there is a new power plan in Windows Power Settings called "Bitsum Highest performance" - might be worth checking our for those with issues using MadVr after upgrading.
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Old 2nd May 2018, 08:13   #50542  |  Link
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In the latest Win10 there is a new power plan in Windows Power Settings called "Bitsum Highest performance" - might be worth checking our for those with issues using MadVr after upgrading.
I have mine at High Performance. I can't see what you are talking about on my system.
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I have mine at High Performance. I can't see what you are talking about on my system.
Under Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options there is a new power setting, as I mentioned above, and it may or may not help.
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If you install madVR in a folder with write access--for example, "c:\madvr"--the program itself will create/update the settings.bin file in that folder whenever you make a change to the settings. Otherwise, the settings are stored in the registry.

To make a backup, change any setting and save it. Then change it back again and save it. Now you'll have your backup. You can copy the settings.bin file somewhere else if you want.
Thanks , works like a charm !
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Under Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Power Options there is a new power setting, as I mentioned above, and it may or may not help.
Maybe it is only for laptops. That power plan is NOT available on my desktops systems.
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Maybe it is only for laptops. That power plan is NOT available on my desktops systems.
If you read my signature, do you see a laptop?
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@Betroz Disable FSE mode. The dropped frames caused by the freeze when you are entering full screen mode.
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can you try normal queue sizes?
Ok I lowered the queue sizes down to 8, and yes that helped. I only dropped 3 frames when I opened the file now. But as you see in this image, the render queue and present queue is still very low. Something is wrong or has changed.

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@Betroz Disable FSE mode. The dropped frames caused by the freeze when you are entering full screen mode.
No it is not that. As I said, same settings as before 1803 update...

Edit : The frames are not only dropping in the beginning, they are dropping during the entire episode.
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Updated to 1803, I have no problems with madVR on my 1060.
Same here with my 1080 and latest drivers. 1803 did hose my custom refresh rates, but I expected that since it also happens whenever I update the Nvidia drivers.
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Well both me and cyberscott have the same issue, so the problem is not only with my setup.
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Same here with my 1080 and latest drivers. 1803 did hose my custom refresh rates, but I expected that since it also happens whenever I update the Nvidia drivers.
The odd thing is though if I use Custom Resolution Utility, I can set a custom refresh rate for 23.976 and still get 12bit, but not if I use MadVr to set the custom refresh rate.

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Same here with my 1080 and latest drivers. 1803 did hose my custom refresh rates, but I expected that since it also happens whenever I update the Nvidia drivers.
Nvidia custom resolutions? Drivers are buggy AGAIN, most of the latest ones bork custom resolutions. I even tried 397.40 and failed to stick so back to 385.28 I go. Nvidia suck at software.
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Ok I lowered the queue sizes down to 8, and yes that helped. I only dropped 3 frames when I opened the file now. But as you see in this image, the render queue and present queue is still very low. Something is wrong or has changed.
did you change other presentation settings like flush settings?

try the old back buffer presentation by disabling "present several frames in advance".
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Nvidia custom resolutions? Drivers are buggy AGAIN, most of the latest ones bork custom resolutions. I even tried 397.40 and failed to stick so back to 385.28 I go. Nvidia suck at software.
Do you honestly believe they change something about custom resolutions in every new driver that breaks it in new and fancy ways? Because I'm pretty sure they don't, because its likely a feature they just don't care about whatsoever. Its probably just not fully understood under which conditions it works right now, making you believe it breaks with different drivers again and again.
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did you change other presentation settings like flush settings?

try the old back buffer presentation by disabling "present several frames in advance".
I disabled "present several frames in advance" now, and it didn't help. The queues still go very low.

My point is that the 1803 update changed something. What I do not know. The fact that I can't use the same MadVr settings now that worked before kind of proves that. And as I said, I did a clean install aswell.

Could it be that BIOS and OS fixes for Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities is the culpit here?
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Do you honestly believe they change something about custom resolutions in every new driver that breaks it in new and fancy ways? Because I'm pretty sure they don't, because its likely a feature they just don't care about whatsoever. Its probably just not fully understood under which conditions it works right now, making you believe it breaks with different drivers again and again.
It's worse that that - I've been pulling my hair out over image quality/colour depth/full vs limited.

All I can say is i think there is a long standing bug that has been reported on the Nvidia forums (i've only just found out), that if you use Nvidia Colour Settings, both full and limited range are borked, and regardless of what setting I use on my display its wrong.

However, I have used CRU to create a custom 23.976 at 12bit, then choose Use Default Colour Settings, and Voila, perfect render chain at Full>Full>Full RGB at 12bit with one repeated frame every several hours (which will do me).

I really don't know who to kick - me or Nvidia!

I have disabled all Windows Updates, and certainly Nvidia (sticking with 397.40), as now I am extremely happy, at last.
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I disabled "present several frames in advance" now, and it didn't help. The queues still go very low.

My point is that the 1803 update changed something. What I do not know. The fact that I can't use the same MadVr settings now that worked before kind of proves that. And as I said, I did a clean install aswell.

Could it be that BIOS and OS fixes for Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities is the culpit here?
these are for CPU not GPUs...

and they do nothing for normal user and most important are part of older windows updates.
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That doesn't seem right, I also have the BIOS and OS fixes for Meltdown and Spectre.

Did you turn the Windows game bar/game mode off again?

I am on 1803, 397.31, madVR v0.92.14 both 64 and 32 bit. MPC-HC and Zoom Player. Skylake X.


edit: I notice my composition rate is 23.976 while your's is 23.970. That is odd.
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these are for CPU not GPUs...
I know, but the CPU feeds data to the GPU...

Maybe Madshi knows if Microsoft did any changes to Direct3D with the 1803 build.
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