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27th January 2016, 04:43
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The description and short name of a codec comes after loading the codec dll, not from the registry. If they are not there it means codec initialization with those fourccs fails in some way. Though that would be very strange.
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27th January 2016, 05:58
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I think they're separate entities. On my laptop, I had UAC disabled but would still need to unblock files from trusted soures to get full functionality. With some AVS plugins/tools from here, if I forget to unblock the archive before extracting and try to run something, I would still get the pop-up even though UAC is disabled. (and I am single/only user as Admin) When I experience issues with programs, I check the source installer (archive) and ensure that it has been ublocked. Unblocking helps resolve most issues I have on that crummy laptop (also Win7 x64).
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27th January 2016, 07:51
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Thanks for your continued efforts to find a solution.
Tried unblocking the installer file first, but I'm afraid it made no difference....still no pesky RGB codecs.
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27th January 2016, 18:37
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Reason why I'm 'revisiting' UTVideo is that I'm been tinkering with KDenlive in Linux (Kubuntu) of late, examining the various available input and output formats and their behavior with respect to YUV levels. Testing some raw full-scale (0-255 luma) 1080/30p.mov clips from a Nikon camera, the KDenlive preset transcode formats (DNxHD, "Matroska.mkv" (HuffYuv)) compress to 16-235. Tried encoding these and some other formats (including UTVideo, FFV1) independently with FFMPEG. Despite setting the "full scale" pix_format flags yuvj422p and yuvj420p, FFMPEG auto-reverts to yuv422p and yuv420p (reporting pixel format incompatibility) and outputs 16-235 scale YUV. The only two formats I've got to work with the full scale pix_format flags are RawYUY2/YV12 and x264, and neither would be my choice for an input intermediate. That said YV12/YUY2.avi encodes created with the vfw UTVideo work just fine and the "full scale" is respected in KDenLive. So there's an option there. As regards RGB transcode options, well (RawRGB aside), I suppose I could use FFMPEG UTvideo RGB for now, but it would be nice to have the vfw UTVideo RGB options. Frustrating - so near and yet so far .
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30th January 2016, 17:51
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First, sorry for being late.
I have read preceding posts. What a conundrum. As Ignus2 said, codec's short name and description are retrieved from DLL, not from registry. So it indicates initialization failure of codec. Could you try following?:
I hope it shows a clew. However, The process from loading DLL to retrieving codec information is completely same for all FourCC in Ut Video Codec Suite. I'm not sure that we can finally find solution... |
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30th January 2016, 20:20
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Thanks for responding to my cry for help
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30th January 2016, 20:33
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And here's the log file when opening VirtualDub 64-bit, which I don't normally use and is located in a folder on a separate volume from the C:\ drive
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31st January 2016, 00:01
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And if it provides any other clues, here's the log file when I open Corel VideoStudio Pro x8 (64-bit) which is the NLE I use. In the Project Setting options for creating custom DV/AVI profiles, UTVideo is listed as one of the available (64-bit) VFW codec options. But like VirtualDub, the RGB fourcc's do not show up there either.
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31st January 2016, 10:02
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According to log output,
It indicates that Windows give up opening codec before loading DLL of Ut Video Codec Suite. hmm... BTW, according to the output of VCSwap that you posted before, you have installed ffdshow. Earlier version of ffdshow (or libavcodec, on which ffdshow is based) have implementation of ULRA, ULRG, ULY2 and ULY0, but don't have ULH2, ULH0 and UQY2. (I don't know that your version 1.3.4524.0 have implementation of ULH2 and ULH0). Are there any relationship...? |
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31st January 2016, 16:37
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Thanks.
I'm not sure I understand what association you are suggesting might be related to the UTVideo issue. Yes, I have CLSID's Rev4525 (Nov 17 2013) of FFDShow installed. Again, I can't recall when it was first installed, but it's been quite a while. Can't see any mention of UTVideo FourCC's there in the FFDShow "VFW Configuration" or "Video Decoder Configuration" codec listings. So I'm not really sure what you are referring to. I've tried uninstalling both FFDShow and UTVideo 15.4.0, and then re-installing 15.4.0 (after a clean-up with CCleaner) but it's made no difference. If it's of any relevance at all, I recall (about 6 weeks back) installing 64-bit versions of FFDShow I had on file (rev4531_20140628_x64 and CLSID's rev4533_20140929_clsid_x64) to do some tests in Corel VideoStudio Pro x8 (64-bit) but couldn't proceed because FFDShow didn't appear at all in the list of available 64-bit VFW codecs in the VSProx8 Project Configuration settings. Just why, I don't know. But instead of uninstalling FFDShow-x64, I just rolled-back to a system back-up I'd made beforehand, so I can't see how that episode could have messed things up for UTVIdeo in some way. Grasping at straws here. Anything else to try ? EDIT: Plus, I've just tried restoring a full disc back-up (Acronis True Image) of the Win7 x64 system from 25th Nov 2015 - so before all of that. There I find UTVideo 13.3.1 was installed , but the situation was the same. The only FourCC's listed in VDub were: YUV420 BT.709 VCM (ULH0) YUV422 BT.709 VCM (ULH2) PRO YUV422 10bit (UQY2) Tried uninstalling 13.3.1, followed by a reboot and CCleaner clean-up before installing 15.4.0, but no change. I have earlier system back-ups, but this was the first good backup after some hardware/network changes and I don't really want to go through that episode again. I've now returned the system to how it was. I never restore anything with System Restore by the way, only back-ups. So what to do? Is this possibly a bug that I didn't pick-up on earlier?
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1st February 2016, 03:35
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Worbry, you do have ffdshow vfw installed. In your screenshot of codecs, I can see ff_vfw.dll, most certainly that's your problem. Either delete the registry key for it or delete the dll itself. This is tricky for 32 bit variants, as the registry and system32 folder is redirected for them. I suggest you delete these two files: C:\Windows\system32\ff_vfw.dll. (the 64-bit codec) C:\Windows\SysWow64\ff_vfw.dll (the 32-bit codec) EDIT: The location of those DLLs might be somewhere else, I don't know where ffdshow puts them. If they are not there, search for them or look in the registry. Also, it's best to delete the registry keys for ff_vfw.dll too (both). Make sure to use a 64-bit file manager, as 32-bit programs are redirected to SysWow64. Greets, I.
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1st February 2016, 06:00
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Thanks Ignus2,
Sorry for my ignorance, for all to see, but I tried uninstalling FFDShow - wouldn't that do the same ? And whats a "64-bit file manager" ?
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1st February 2016, 10:15
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Just use Windows explorer. (Total Commander 32-bit edition for example is not a 64-bit file manager.) Greets, I.
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1st February 2016, 10:31
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People old enough to remember the "Norton Commander" (but not excluding younger people) may also like the Far manager, which is also available in 32 and 64 bit. It is a real text mode application, adapting to any arbitrary console window size. There are several plugins available, e.g. a Registry browser too. And it doesn't camouflage system directories with localized shell objects, it shows their real name on disk. Cool admin stuff!
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After your last post about locating and deleting the ff_vfw.dll's and registry keys, I installed FFDshow again to see what you were referring to. A regular Windows Explorer search turned up just one ff_vfw.dll in the C:\Windows\ SysWOW64 folder. Didn't take any direct action on that being unable to locate the other ff_vfw.dll. But on uninstalling FFDShow again the ff_vfw.dll in the C:\Windows\ SysWOW64 folder disappeared, as might be expected. Hence my asking whether uninstalling was not just doing the same thing. As of now FFDShow is uninstalled. So, would you suggest I go at it again looking for any registry keys that could still be there? Un-ventured territory for me, this registry stuff.
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1st February 2016, 19:57
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Thanks. Just tried that. With FFDShow already uninstalled, I then uninstalled UTVideo 15.4.0, rebooted and ran CCleaner's registry cleaner three times (rebooting between each clean). Reinstalled UTVideo 15.4.0. Still no RGB FourCC's.
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2nd February 2016, 12:42
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The problem is the way VFW works. The codec DLL given for a given fourcc in the registry is not authoritative. VFW will probe every codec sometimes for a given fourcc and the first to respond wins. As the description and short name didn't appear in VCSwap I was assuming the codec initialization failed, and as Takeshi examined, the UT DLL was not loaded at all, so something else responded, and I assumed it was the FFVFW variant as it also handles UT codecs.
At least, that's my assumption. Can you post a new screenshot of VSwap? Greets, I.
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I install ffdshow and UtVideo in test VMs in preceding order and reversed order, but VCswap shows that all of FourCC is still available in both case. My hypothesis may be rejected, or there are more conditions. hmm...
I sometimes hear that all of FourCC in UtVideo is not available, but I have never heard that some of FourCC in UtVideo is not available... Quote:
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2nd February 2016, 22:48
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It's kinda that way, according to Avery Lee:
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