BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[AmigaFuture]

Originally Posted by gonca

Can confirm the issue. PGS in VID 0058 only have one entry each, looks like a language identifier. I.E. [ENGLISH] according to BDSup2Sub

Is BD-RB about to make a good MKV for you using the workaround as I described? Thanks.

[gonca]

I usually don't keep subtitles, so it isn't a problem for me.
As far as workarounds >>> Use TsMuxer to create a new movie-only BD from the original and then run through BD_RB.
It will take the two parts and make one m2ts file in the new BD. This might resolve the "discontinuity" in the PGS streams.

[AmigaFuture]

I recall you'd typed that before...you don't use Subtitles. I was wondering if you'd be willing to do the workaround. The way I described. Using Movie Only BD or AVCHD then using that Movie Only to create an MKV also produces an output that shows the movie is 5 plus hours.. Since you might have the same version I do, which JDobbs doesn't seem to...looking for confirmation.

[gonca]

I'll try the workaround, just give me some time. Gotta go to work soon.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by neuron2

If you want to save buying the disk we can give you the stream fragment that fails.

Thanks. But it's already on its way.

[jankosek]

Hi , its better use x264 or FRIM Encoder for 2d movie ?
FRIM its rly fast but quality ?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by jankosek

Hi , its better use x264 or FRIM Encoder for 2d movie ?
FRIM its rly fast but quality ?

Based on what feedback I've gotten so far, I'd highly recommend sticking with X264 for all 2D encodes. In fact, I will likely no longer make FRIM an option for 2D starting with the next release.

You say "rly fast" -- are you personally seeing faster speeds? So far the only feedback I've gotten with HW encoding is that there seems to be a higher probability of glitches in the output. In SW mode FRIM is actually slower than X264.

[Floque]

Originally Posted by jankosek

Hi , its better use x264 or FRIM Encoder for 2d movie ?
FRIM its rly fast but quality ?

Same question, what would be good 3D Full Backup CONFIGURATION for me no matter how long I prefer quality.

[gonca]

AmigaFuture
Tried both workarounds and it seems that as long as the PGS streams are present the time displays wrong. I don't think that there are any actual PGS streams in the second m2ts, just pointers or references because of the first m2ts, which causes some kind of discontinuity to the time codes

[AmigaFuture]

@ Gonca

Thanks for checking. There is a Subtitle end the very end of the movie for each of the 3 languages. Funny, I wonder if it was intentional? Pretty sure. Enough to cause something like this. Hmm...the workaround I described (processed without reencode 1st time, and making MKV 2nd time) should have produced a good MKV. Anyway, there are indeed PGS streams.

[Starfiresg1]

Originally Posted by Yordan5

Tried a 2D back up using FRIM. With QuickSync the framerate hovered around 200 fps however, when playing the resulting backup the movie picture kept twiching every few seconds throughout the movie.

I just gave FRIM a try with a 2D Backup of The Counselor and got the same result as Yordan5 - the resulting video twitched every few seconds. Stepping through the video with MPC showed that the picture contains errors every 24th step / frame. Just as Yordan5 I did a movie-only backup to BD-5. Additionally I resized to 1440. Maybe the errors are triggered by the low bitrate? Because I haven't noticed these issues with 3D backups (SBS to BD-9 or full disc to BD-25) yet - although I haven't done many of these due to a lack of time.

Additionally the output was undersized quite a bit at 3.63 GB - usually I get around 4.2 GB in a BD-5 encode. The bitrate chosen for the encode is a bit low for a 2h movie.
This happens for me from time to time on multipart sources. If the main movie consists of a single m2ts the output size is always fine.

I've attached the log of the encode.

[05.01.14] BD Rebuilder v0.47.05 (beta)
[12:05:14] Source:  THE_COUNSELOR_00800
  - Input BD size: 33,72 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:57:14.026]
  - Target BD size: 4,36 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Resize: 1920 to 1440 enabled
  - Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
  - X264 Tweak(s) enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMSource
  - Audio Settings: AC3=1 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[12:05:21] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [12:05:21] Processing: VID_00500 (1 of 3)
 - [12:05:21] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00500]
 - [12:12:31] Reencoding video [VID_00500]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 153.339 frames
   - Bitrate: 2.793 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for AVC encoding
 - [12:12:32] Reencoding: VID_00500, Pass 1 of 1
 - [12:34:04] Video Encode complete
 - [12:34:05] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
   - Track 4354 (deu): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [12:38:16] Processing: VID_00501 (2 of 3)
 - [12:38:16] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00501]
 - [12:38:23] Reencoding video [VID_00501]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 889 frames
   - Bitrate: 2.827 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for AVC encoding
 - [12:38:23] Reencoding: VID_00501, Pass 1 of 1
 - [12:38:31] Video Encode complete
 - [12:38:31] Processing: VID_00502 (3 of 3)
 - [12:38:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00502]
 - [12:39:08] Reencoding video [VID_00502]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 14.420 frames
   - Bitrate: 2.478 Kbs
   - Using FRIMEncoder for AVC encoding
 - [12:39:08] Reencoding: VID_00502, Pass 1 of 1
 - [12:41:04] Video Encode complete
[12:41:04]PHASE ONE complete
[12:41:04]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [12:41:04] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[12:42:14] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[12:42:14] JOB: THE_COUNSELOR finished.

[CraigWally]

Anybody got any ideas on my issue (2 pages back)
3D movie source , but 2D result after running through BDRB ?

TIA

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by CraigWally

Anybody got any ideas on my issue (2 pages back)
3D movie source , but 2D result after running through BDRB ?

TIA

What are you using to play it back? From the log it looks like it encoded in 3D.

[HWK]

Originally Posted by Floque

Originally Posted by jankosek
Hi , its better use x264 or FRIM Encoder for 2d movie ?FRIM its rly fast but quality ?

Originally Posted by Floque

Same question, what would be good 3D Full Backup CONFIGURATION for me no matter how long I prefer quality.

When it comes to 3D, you don't have choice of encoders. Only FrimEncoder will work. Assuming you are doing true 3D rather than SBS.

[Ch3vr0n]

@HWK: flok isn't asking about 3D, he's asking about 2D and in that case all tests indicate x264 is better, faster & more stable than FRIM when it comes to final output. In fact jdobbs has stated he'll probably remove the possibility of using frim for 2D sources

[inge70]

Originally Posted by jankosek

Hi , its better use x264 or FRIM Encoder for 2d movie ?
FRIM its rly fast but quality ?

FRIM is a 3D encoder and included in BD-rebuilder to edit 3D movies.

2D movies is still there and best x264 ..

[CraigWally]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

What are you using to play it back? From the log it looks like it encoded in 3D.

Im using a standalone LG 3D Bluray Player

If you notice VID_00021 (3 of 15), this is the main movie and did not use Frim
Only VID_00103 (6 of 15)(Main Menu) encoded with FRIMEncoder

[Floque]

Originally Posted by HWK

When it comes to 3D, you don't have choice of encoders. Only FrimEncoder will work. Assuming you are doing true 3D rather than SBS.

Thanks for your reply.
'm Tratanto to make real 3D in my case I do not use 3D SBS, but I'm having a problem when playing my player Pioneer when starting 3D reproduction appears black screen when complete disc with menus, but when you only use film Home 3D does not happen that problem.

Excuse my language

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by CraigWally

Im using a standalone LG 3D Bluray Player

If you notice VID_00021 (3 of 15), this is the main movie and did not use Frim
Only VID_00103 (6 of 15)(Main Menu) encoded with FRIMEncoder

Hmm... yeah, my mistake. What version of BD-RB are you using (it was cut off of the log you posted)?

Also, can you point me to the disc (on Amazon or Best Buy preferably) that you are attempting to back up?

[CraigWally]

I've tried both 47.04 and 47.05

http://www.amazon.co.uk/African-Safa...ican+safari+3d

I certainly don't expect you to buy this disc - I was just interested as to what could have gone wrong here
All other 3D discs I've tried have worked flawlessly