BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[AmigaFuture]

I get that, I get that...I Get that! I don't mean this as an attack, JD, ...Why do you seem so pessimistic toward people clicking on "Check for a New version?" That outweighs the "There's a new version? I was never informed of that." with the current awareness of the users (under 40). Most whom care about this kind of project WILL check the Help. This project hasn't come into the mass awareness, yet. Heh, as much as I've talked to others and stuff...most are unaware of AnyDVD (HD) even... We shouldn't loose sight that...Yes, we have the Internet..but Global Awareness is "Facebook" drama...and Basic computer usage.

I am TOTALLY Cool with a "Donate" button with a Neat graphic! It's an attention getter..when done well. I didn't even consider that, but I'm reminded of several conversations.. YES, that's more attractive to people than "Buy now!!" which is more of a FORCEFUL statement. Not cool when it comes to programs. Donate....means more to people than "Buy Now!" -- Most people prefer to feel GOOD rather than to be Guilted or blamed. Most people I know view "Buy Now!" as "Get outta my face! You're too pushy!" where as Donate...is "Help support what you Like/Love." I know a lot of people battling the Guilt and Blame thing. Not me, but....I'm aware.
I deal with a version of the General Public; friends, associations, family..and ..more. Donate isn't in their face...even if it's a 30 second "nag"... If the program isn't crippled..they still see a Reminder...and still use it. If there's an Update in the "Help" with a Donate there, they're much more to follow it "some time". This is from people I've asked from where I live. 2 cents again..

Last bit.. I get it that most are used to being spoon-fed information. They're used to commercials telling them what to do. You have a nitch market here.. If you WANT to branch past Doom9, and make some Real money with your passion, We're with you...most of us Bug Reporters (myself included) would even Advocate with you (BE in a commercial)...but you gotta advertise. You..Really Might Not Understand how many people would -LOVE- this program if they -knew- it existed. NO, BS!! Look at what Apple has done with Steve Jobs's help. Advertise, Bro! I talk to people, I'm sure Omega, and the others' do also. Okay, I've offer 4 cents now....and this is long..so.. The end...and back to the Forum...pardon, everyone.

[FilipeAmadeuO]

Originally Posted by Lathe

Well, again I don't know if this is what you want, or how you can do that specifically with BDRB, but if you simply use TSMuxer, remove the audio stream you don't want, and drag and drop the audio track that you do want, and then mux it to whatever you want. If you need further processing with BDRB, then mux it to a 'Blu-ray Folder' and then input the new folder created with TSMuxer with your new audio track, and proceed with BDRB like you normally would.

I hope this helps...

That´s exactly want i want but it would be great if we could do it with just one tool like BDRebuilder. Hope jdobbs could think about it

[CV91913]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I just don't think people will ever click a button for "Check for New version" any more often than they do the "Donate" button. Hell, most people don't even know that one is there (I've gotten e-mails from people asking how to donate). I'd rather have it check automatically occasionally (like most other software does, e.g. AnyDVD). If a click is required, I'd rather it was for "don't check for new versions".

It's easy to say "don't bother me with notifications" when you're not the one having to figure out whether a bug question is from a version that was released a year ago (mainly because they didn't know about the newer ones) -- or have something that really needs to be fixed and there's no way to get it known except to the people who are regulars here on Doom9.

That's the main reason why the expiration was there for so long.

I ran into the same issues when I was a developer. I ended up putting an on/off entry in the help pull down "Check for Updates on Start Up" and a second entry "Check for Updates Now". That way they could turn off the auto check but still check manually. It seemed to satisfy most customers that did not want to be "nagged".

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by CV91913

I ran into the same issues when I was a developer. I ended up putting an on/off entry in the help pull down "Check for Updates on Start Up" and a second entry "Check for Updates Now". That way they could turn off the auto check but still check manually. It seemed to satisfy most customers that did not want to be "nagged".

Yeah, I think that's the best way to do it. To get rid of the nagging, you just tell them once that a new version is out, and then maybe follow up once a month if the old version is still in use. I can program my server to respond to a version query in a matter of milliseconds on most connections.

[soneca]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Yeah, I think that's the best way to do it. To get rid of the nagging, you just tell them once that a new version is out, and then maybe follow up once a month if the old version is still in use. I can program my server to respond to a version query in a matter of milliseconds on most connections.

And to implement this an installable version of BDRB be necessary?

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by soneca

And to implement this an installable version of BDRB be necessary?

Not really. But you did remind me that I need to create an installer for BD-RB.

[AmigaFuture]

Perhaps an installer & as you have now; archived? Like Matroska?

[soneca]

Now would be about the same as the portable version of Matroska.
I prefer it that way but... it's the guy who decides.

[RobertM]

My 2 cents...

Have BD-RB check for update every time it launches. If one is available, give a "update is available" message, with options "Update/Later/Ignore". Later will just suppress the nag until the next session. Ignore will suppress the nag until a NEWER update is available. Once a newer update (newer than the ignored update) is detected the cycle begins anew.

People will still get 1 nag per new update version, but that's not really all that often. I think that most people would want to be up-to-date, and would actually welcome that small amount of interaction.

Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Yeah, I think that's the best way to do it. To get rid of the nagging, you just tell them once that a new version is out, and then maybe follow up once a month if the old version is still in use. I can program my server to respond to a version query in a matter of milliseconds on most connections.

[soneca]

Originally Posted by RobertM

My 2 cents...

Have BD-RB check for update every time it launches. If one is available, give a "update is available" message, with options "Update/Later/Ignore". Later will just suppress the nag until the next session. Ignore will suppress the nag until a NEWER update is available. Once a newer update (newer than the ignored update) is detected the cycle begins anew.

People will still get 1 nag per new update version, but that's not really all that often. I think that most people would want to be up-to-date, and would actually welcome that small amount of interaction.

Just my opinion.

+1
I agree, I had thought that interaction mode. Gives the user more options and flexibility to act as the moment.

[soneca]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Not really. But you did remind me that I need to create an installer for BD-RB.

Jdobbs, speaking of BD-RB updates even after the installer ready would be possible to continue providing not installable version as there is now? Many developers keep these two versions.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, no problem. Honestly, though, I have no idea when I will implement any of this.

[soneca]

Ok, development and bug fixes are more important than that.
Anyway, thank you!

[kctobyjoe]

Had this error popup; FWIW
I found an MP4 version and played with that instead...MAY have been an ANYDVD HD malfunction; it appeared the rip of the title was NOT successful with ANY DVDHD...
couldn't find where to post this as anew item rather than as a reply...sry

[jdobbs]

The error means that BD-RB is somehow attempting to create a duplicate key for an item in the streams list. It is very likely your source is corrupt or has been edited in some way. The only way I can imagine that happening is if there are video files with duplicate numeric names (e.g. 00000.m2ts and 00000b.m2ts). The second name is illegal and should be impossible on a properly structured disc.

[Edit] Actually, I tried manually creating a duplicate and even then I couldn't force that error. Any chance the file structure on your source disc is corrupted?

[emilio99]

I have problems with german disc "Sin City 2 3D", Disc cannot be created

BD-Rebuilder Log:

[02.06.15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.02
[20:24:54] Source:  SIN_CITY_2_3D_00002
  - Input BD size: 33,80 GB
  - Approximate total content: [01:42:15.963]
  - Target BD size: 23,44 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Quality: High Quality (Default), ABR
  - MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
  - Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=1 Kbs=640
  - Audio [1] set to default.
[20:25:00] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [20:25:00] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 1)
 - [20:25:00] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [20:33:49] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
 - [20:33:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [20:33:49] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (deu): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
[20:33:49]PHASE ONE complete
[20:33:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [20:33:49] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
 - Failed in attempt to multiplex: MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
 - Can't open file: D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00002.track_4114.mvc
[20:36:18] - Failed to REBUILD

Content from MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --vbr --vbv-len=500 --start-time=27000000
V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00001.track_4113.264", fps=23.976, contSPS
V_MPEG4/ISO/MVC, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00002.track_4114.mvc", fps=23.976, contSPS
A_DTS, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00001.track_4352.DTS", lang=deu
A_DTS, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00001.track_4353.DTS", lang=eng
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00001.track_4608.SUP",fps=23.976,3d-plane=0,lang=deu
S_HDMV/PGS, "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\00001.track_4609.SUP",fps=23.976,3d-plane=0,lang=deu

Contents from Folder "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES":

D:\Temp\_BD.rebuilder\WORKFILES>dir

 Verzeichnis von D:\Temp\_BD.rebuilder\WORKFILES

06.02.2015  20:36    <DIR>          .
06.02.2015  20:36    <DIR>          ..
06.02.2015  20:33    18.258.929.292 00001.track_4113.264
06.02.2015  20:33    11.837.205.216 00001.track_4114.mvc
06.02.2015  20:33     2.035.171.400 00001.track_4352.dts
06.02.2015  20:33     2.092.235.348 00001.track_4353.dts
06.02.2015  20:33        30.982.730 00001.track_4608.sup
06.02.2015  20:33        33.034.374 00001.track_4609.sup
06.02.2015  20:33        28.265.523 00001.track_4610.sup
06.02.2015  20:25               587 AUD_00001.meta
06.02.2015  20:33               307 AUD_00001_4352.AVS
06.02.2015  20:33               307 AUD_00001_4353.AVS
06.02.2015  20:36               620 MUX_MOVIE_ONLY.meta
06.02.2015  20:33               297 VID_00001.AVS
06.02.2015  20:33               156 VID_00001.CHP
              13 Datei(en), 34.315.826.157 Bytes
               2 Verzeichnis(se), 71.823.687.680 Bytes frei

Last Command (LASTCMD.TXT):

"D:\+ Downloads +\+ Programz +\_Video_Audio_Converter\BD_Rebuilder\tools\x264.exe" "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS" --preset medium --bluray-compat --b-pyramid none --weightp 1 --qpmin=0 --bitrate 15732 --level 4.1 --qpfile "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.CHP" --sar 1:1 --aud --nal-hrd vbr --pic-struct --vbv-bufsize 29559 --keyint 24 --min-keyint 1 --ipratio 1.1 --pbratio 1.1 --vbv-maxrate 34371 --threads auto --slices 4 --thread-input --stats "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264.stats" --pass 2 --output "D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\WORKFILES\VID_00000.AVS.264"

BDREBUILDER.INI:

[Options]
VERSION=0.50.0.2
MODE=3
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=deu;eng;ger;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=0
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=0
USE_LAVF=0
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=1
UNMASK_CHAPTER=1
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
DGDECNV=0
OUTPUT_3D=1
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=24000
TARGET_SIZE=24000
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
NEROAAC=0
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
ALTCRF=17
ALT_TARGET=21000
ALTMETHOD=0
ALTAUTOCROP=1
IGNORE_3D=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
SUPTITLE=0
PRIORITY_CLASS=1
ENCODER=0
DGDECIM=0
DECODER=4
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=H:\
WORKING_PATH=D:\TEMP\_BD.REBUILDER\
DGIndexNV=D:\DGDecNV\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=D:\DGDecNV\DGDecodeNV.dll
DirectShowMVCSource=D:\+ Downloads +\+ Programz +\_Video_Audio_Converter\BD_Rebuilder\Tools\DirectShowMVCSource.dll

[spotswood]

Originally Posted by patrick

i just noticed that bd rebuilder versions starting with 0.47.xx cannot open "lord of the rings - return of the king extended edition (disc2)"
error 2501 (20:58:56) sourcecheck() 00055 2501
appears in v00.47.05
all versions prior to 00.47.xx have no problems.

Originally Posted by spotswood

i've just experienced this same problem using v50.03. Only happens on disc 2. Disc 1 opens fine. Have tried w/anydvd enabled and disabled and on two different drives. Rips and disc 2 play fine w/pdvd and tmt and sony standalone. Errors received are:
- [10:52:24] scandirectory() 00006 2603
- [10:52:26] sourcecheck() 00009 2503
- [10:53:08] sourcecheck() 00055 2501
illegal source. Selected source is not a bd format. Any help/suggestions appreciated. Tia!!!

Originally Posted by jdobbs

i have updated the first post of this thread with a link to an updated release of bd-rb (v0.40.10). Changes for this release:

- corrected an issue related to unusual mpls files
  that could result in "sourcecheck() 00006 2501" at
  program startup or during scanning.

Just following up on a recent problem I'm having opening the above mentioned disc. Did a little more digging and found a similar problem was fixed a while back in the version above. I have noticed that BDRB will open the disc in movie only mode but not in full backup or movie & menus mode. Another member was asked to send their .mpls files for another disc with a similar problem. If you like I can do the same, let me know. Thanks for any help/suggestions!

PS. Here's my Inspect log:
[02/06/15] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.03
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 137.87GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[02/06/15] Systems Settings Check complete

[jdobbs]

@emilio99

That's strange. I'm not sure where the "00002" came from in "00002.track_4114.mvc". It clearly should have been "00001.track_4114.mvc".

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by spotswood

Just following up on a recent problem I'm having opening the above mentioned disc. Did a little more digging and found a similar problem was fixed a while back in the version above. I have noticed that BDRB will open the disc in movie only mode but not in full backup or movie & menus mode. Another member was asked to send their .mpls files for another disc with a similar problem. If you like I can do the same, let me know. Thanks for any help/suggestions!

PS. Here's my Inspect log:
[02/06/15] Checking System Settings
- BD-Rebuilder v0.50.03
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- Working Path Free Space: 137.87GB
- AVISYNTH Version: 2.5.8.0, Ok
- LAVFILTERS: Ok
- AnyDVD settings check: Ok.
- X264: Ok
- AFTEN: Ok
- FAAC: Ok
- MP4BOX: Ok
- WAVI: Ok
- TSMUXER: Ok
- FRIMEncode: Ok
- FRIMDecode: Ok
[02/06/15] Systems Settings Check complete

If you send me a PM with a link, I'll download it and see what I can find.

[DoctorM]

I still run into problems with target sizes. Even in 2-pass on a BD25 things are usually under the target by at least 1 gb, usually more.
Today I just wanted to strip some audio tracks from a very nearly BD25 disc and it attempted to re-encode.
Switched to a BD50 target and the output was 19.8gb.
Disc is Chicken Little.

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[02/06/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.02
[18:02:01] Source:  LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
  - Input BD size: 23.92 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:26:41.116]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
  - Output folder: C:\Users\Dr. M\Desktop\
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:02:01] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:02:01] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 5)
 - [18:02:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [18:13:41] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 116,402 frames
 - [18:13:41] Performing CRF Prediction...
   - Analyzing 11.00 [11.00]
 - [18:15:02] Encoding using constant rate factor.
[18:22:44]PHASE ONE aborted by user request
----------------------
[02/06/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.02
[18:22:52] Source:  LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
  - Input BD size: 23.92 GB
  - Approximate total content: [02:26:41.116]
  - Target BD size: 46.26 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), CRF
  - Output folder: C:\Users\Dr. M\Desktop\
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[18:22:53] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [18:22:53] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 5)
 - [18:22:53] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [18:37:49] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
 - [18:37:49] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:37:49] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
   - Track 4353 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [18:37:49] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:44:17] Processing: VID_00006 (2 of 5)
 - [18:44:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [18:44:24] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
 - [18:44:24] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:44:24] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [18:44:24] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:44:28] Processing: VID_00007 (3 of 5)
 - [18:44:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
 - [18:44:38] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
 - [18:44:38] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:44:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [18:44:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:44:44] Processing: VID_00024 (4 of 5)
 - [18:44:44] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00024]
 - [18:44:58] Reencoding video [VID_00024]
 - [18:44:58] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:44:58] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [18:44:58] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [18:45:08] Processing: VID_00105 (5 of 5)
 - [18:45:08] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00105]
 - [18:45:30] Reencoding video [VID_00105]
 - [18:45:30] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [18:45:30] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (jpn): Keeping original audio
 - [18:45:30] Multiplexing M2TS
[18:45:37]PHASE ONE complete
[18:45:37]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [18:45:37] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[18:49:34] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[18:49:34] JOB: LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID finished.

I just wanted to report this, but it seems like I'm the only one still having output size issues. I can't figure out why since I originally had this on a completely different system under WinXP. Now I'm on a very modern system under Win7 x64.

Edit: I don't know if this helps, but here are the first few lines of the .INF file.

[Status]
LABEL=LOGICAL_VOLUME_ID
VERSION=v0.50.02
SOURCE_SIZE=25687371554
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=22101780480
TARGET_SIZE=24641536000
REDUCTION=.952680936499827

The source size is correct for the full disc, but shouldn't anything removed (audio, subtracks, etc.) or re-encoded audio be deducted from that number at this point? I really can't put my finger on what the math is doing.

Btw, 2-pass also starts the video encode, not just CRF mode.
From what I've seen this isn't restricted to just this disc.