BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[jdobbs]

Can someone else with a PS3 do some testing and see if there is an issue?

[wakko709]

n/m I've found another way

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by wakko709

n/m I've found another way

Can you elaborate?

[DarWun]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

That's definitely an issue with the PS3. It's possible, but unlikely, that it might be a disc issue. But a BD-25 is 100% compatible with any player that is BD certified. I've gotten no other reports of issues on a PS3, which makes me think it might be your player specifically.

"Strict AVCHD" has no impact on a BD-25 backup, BD-25's are never AVCHD.

I believe the issue with the PS3 is related to the in-mux method. The solution was to add OUTPUT_3D_ISO=1 to bdrebuilder.ini. This is the related post from back in July:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...72#post1687472

[jdobbs]

Hmm... I don't remember that conversation. But, since the in-mux method is a part of the BD-3D standard... that would still make it an issue with the PS3.

[DarWun]

With the large number of questions you respond to, I would have been surprised if you had remembered it. Agreed that the problem probably lies with the PS3. Once I realized this I stopped doing 3D rebuilds as the end result wasn't really worth the effort.

[AmigaFuture]

Originally Posted by wakko709

Ive clean my install software Now what?
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[02/21/15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.04
[19:49:52] Source: UNDER_THE_DOME_SEASON_2_DISC_2

Have you cleaned the lens of your Optical Drive? Then ripped it again?

Originally Posted by DarWun

With the large number of questions you respond to, I would have been surprised if you had remembered it. Agreed that the problem probably lies with the PS3. Once I realized this I stopped doing 3D rebuilds as the end result wasn't really worth the effort.

Don't under estimate the Power of the Force with this programmer. Or his Post-It sticky notes.

[javilu]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

4GB should be fine, but 30 hours is a long time. The main factor would be the type of processor you are using. On my system (an AMD FX-8350@4.5Ghz) a typical movie-only backup takes about 2.5-3 hours. In high-quality mode pass 1 takes about .3x the movie length and pass 2 takes about 1x (so a 2 hour movie would be .6hr + 2hr + audio_reencode + rebuild_time = ~2.5-3hr).

The disc you were encoding has 3 3/4 hours of content. So a good processor might take 5-6 hrs or so. A newer intel i7 would likely take a lot less.

Thank you sir!
I just tried again and will burn on BRD tomorrow to test it.
I am curious as to why it says
" - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3..."
When I didn't select any options to reencode audio...

[jdobbs]

Reencoding to AC3 is the default. It saves space, and at 640Kbs Dolby reports that it is transparent (it is indistinguishable from the original audio in double-blind tests).

[Marty]

Hi people,

today I tried my 40 GB 3D ISO Edge of Tommorow to BD-25 with BD Rebuilder, but my player (Mede8er x600) it plays only in 2D

Here is log file

[02.24.15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.04
[16:46:02] Source: EDGE_OF_TOMORROW_00098
- Input BD size: 32,07 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:29.427]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:46:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:46:02] Processing: VID_00042 (1 of 1)
- [16:46:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [16:51:56] Reencoding video [VID_00042]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 163*263 frames
- Bitrate: 24*419 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [16:51:56] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:26:49] Video Encode complete
- [22:26:49] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[22:26:49]PHASE ONE complete
[22:26:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:26:49] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[22:46:45] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:46:45] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[22:59:25] JOB: EDGE_OF_TOMORROW finished.


Edit: Now I tried play movie from BDMV-STREAM folder and now show it in 3D. Any ideas why playing from ISO is in 2D?

[jdobbs]

That would be something I'd guess has to be answered by the developers of the Mede8er X600.

[robbie74]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Can someone else with a PS3 do some testing and see if there is an issue?

i have 3x ps3

1 40gb phat
1 80gb phat
1 120gb slim

the 40gb blacked screened on me the other 2 were fine.
the 40gb has different lasers to the newer ones if thats any help.

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by robbie74

i have 3x ps3

1 40gb phat
1 80gb phat
1 120gb slim

the 40gb blacked screened on me the other 2 were fine.
the 40gb has different lasers to the newer ones if thats any help.

Thanks.

[IanD]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

That's definitely an issue with the PS3. It's possible, but unlikely, that it might be a disc issue. But a BD-25 is 100% compatible with any player that is BD certified. I've gotten no other reports of issues on a PS3, which makes me think it might be your player specifically.

"Strict AVCHD" has no impact on a BD-25 backup, BD-25's are never AVCHD.

However, if you are trying to play folders/files on a device like the PS3 (or the Oppo 83), the files must be < 4GB in size due to the FAT32 limitation, which is where the "Strict AVCHD" method is necessary.

I have an Oppo 83 that will play full Bluray folders/files (or AVCHD) from USB drive as if it is a genuine optical disc, but the drive can only be FAT32. Consequently, it would be really great if BDR was able to include file splitting when creating BD25 or BD50 builds (Full, Movie-only or Quick Play).

If this is too complex, I would welcome some guidance on the logic required to run BDR in say Quick Play mode, with a file splitting pass for each title.

[jdobbs]

I understand. But FAT32 is ancient technology (circa 1996). It's an unnecessary limitation implemented by the manufacturer of the Oppo 83 and PS3. Have you written them asking them to get off the dime and move into the 21st century? I hesitate to spend hours of coding time just to support something that should have been shelved years ago. We're in the era of 100GB video discs and 6TB hard drives. Does a 4GB file size limitation seem reasonable for something that is designed for high-definition video playback?

With that said, TSMUXER supports filesize limitation, so I could probably include it in movie-only output. Quick-Play is unlikely. Full Backups are pretty much out of the question.

[robbie74]

Originally Posted by robbie74

i have 3x ps3

1 40gb phat
1 80gb phat
1 120gb slim

the 40gb blacked screened on me the other 2 were fine.
the 40gb has different lasers to the newer ones if thats any help.

ps4 also worked fine

[IanD]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

I understand. But FAT32 is ancient technology (circa 1996). It's an unnecessary limitation implemented by the manufacturer of the Oppo 83 and PS3. Have you written them asking them to get off the dime and move into the 21st century? I hesitate to spend hours of coding time just to support something that should have been shelved years ago. We're in the era of 100GB video discs and 6TB hard drives. Does a 4GB file size limitation seem reasonable for something that is designed for high-definition video playback?

With that said, TSMUXER supports filesize limitation, so I could probably include it in movie-only output. Quick-Play and Full Backups, though, are pretty much out of the question.

The manufacturers have all moved on as they want consumers to buy replacement gear: they have no interest in modifying older, still functional equipment. It's just unfortunate that the Oppo 83 still has untapped potential because of the FAT32 limitation.

I'm not expecting you to spend any time coding support for this "feature", but I would appreciate some guidance if there is a batch file or equivalent in BDR that I can modify to add a file splitting step to the usual processes: I have no idea how the Quick Play process works or even if it is amenable to intervention.

Don't waste your time including it for movie-only output as ClownBD already does that perfectly well, but it won't handle multi-title structures like BDR.

[jdobbs]

It's not as simple as a "batch file or equivalent". When it splits, the file titles multiply and the MPLS files have to be updated to support that.

[javilu]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Reencoding to AC3 is the default. It saves space, and at 640Kbs Dolby reports that it is transparent (it is indistinguishable from the original audio in double-blind tests).

It worked perfectly and not out of sync at all with the new version!
Thank you.

[Marty]

Originally Posted by Marty

Hi people,

today I tried my 40 GB 3D ISO Edge of Tommorow to BD-25 with BD Rebuilder, but my player (Mede8er x600) it plays only in 2D

Here is log file

[02.24.15] BD Rebuilder v0.50.04
[16:46:02] Source: EDGE_OF_TOMORROW_00098
- Input BD size: 32,07 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:53:29.427]
- Target BD size: 22,95 GB
- Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast), ABR
- MVC 3D Output Mode enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: FRIMDecode
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[16:46:02] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:46:02] Processing: VID_00042 (1 of 1)
- [16:46:02] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00042]
- [16:51:56] Reencoding video [VID_00042]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 163*263 frames
- Bitrate: 24*419 Kbs
- Using FRIMEncoder for MVC encoding
- [16:51:56] Reencoding: VID_00042, Pass 1 of 1
- [22:26:49] Video Encode complete
- [22:26:49] Processing audio tracks
- Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
[22:26:49]PHASE ONE complete
[22:26:49]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
- [22:26:49] Rebuilding BD-3D file Structure
[22:46:45] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[22:46:45] Writing BD structure to ISO file
- ImgBurn completed successfully
[22:59:25] JOB: EDGE_OF_TOMORROW finished.


Edit: Now I tried play movie from BDMV-STREAM folder and now show it in 3D. Any ideas why playing from ISO is in 2D?

Hi,

so i tried convert same 3D movie with BD rebuilder and result i chose as BDMV folder and then convert it to ISO with TS muxer and this 3D ISO my player starts in 3D. So great work with BD rebuilder and thx for it.


Only subtitles are only in 2D. Its possible after encoding movie to BD-25 preserve correctly functional 3D subtitles?