BD Rebuilder Beta - Bug Reports Only

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by AmigaFuture

WHAT!?!? I WANT MY DONATIONS BACK if you cannot fix those when I run BD-RB...at least on the volume I run it from. Crappy programmers... SIGH!


[To the people new here, or unaware...or looking for problems with the program, I'm merely JOKING....having some fun... So any Toilet Ducks, go Quack yourself somewhere else.]

I have just sacrificed a virgin, and am now casting the Summoning Spell to bring back Toilet Duck...

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by Lathe

I have just sacrificed a virgin, and am now casting the Summoning Spell to bring back Toilet Duck...

Gee... I can't wait.

[lauguru]

hello jdobbs

Hello
as I can try to encode all the videos fullbluray in X265 / HVEC (instead of x264) except the menu (x264), to try to see if powerdvd 16 plays bluray.
You could add in some HIDDENOPTS.TXT command to make it as evidence, trying to encode all in X265, except the menu in x264. Thank you

[Ch3vr0n]

Won't work. x265 violates standard bluray specification. x265 is only approved for uhd. Any powerdvd number can play bluray provided it's the ultra version.

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[lauguru]

Originally Posted by Ch3vr0n

Won't work. x265 violates standard bluray specification. x265 is only approved for uhd. Any powerdvd number can play bluray provided it's the ultra version.

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but it would be nice to implement it experimentally, or use the codec used by UHD to reconvert a BluRay in that format, covertly as an extra in HIDDENOPTS.TXT

[Ch3vr0n]

Doubt jdobbs will do it, the intent of bdrb is to create standard compliant output, not standard violating output. And even if it were possible, doubt any player would play it because the output would violate standard.

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[gonca]

How about ARCHIVE_MODE
However, presently no hardware or software player will play the structure by default

[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by gonca

How about ARCHIVE_MODE
However, presently no hardware or software player will play the structure by default

Yep. That will create a disc exactly how he described. But as you say, since nothing will play it, it's really nothing more than a way to keep an archive of the original.

[mparade]

Originally Posted by gonca

How about ARCHIVE_MODE
However, presently no hardware or software player will play the structure by default

I have just bought a media tank (DUNE HD Solo 4K) which supports both HEVC 10-bit streams and the BD structure with menus. Maybe, I should try to play an ARCHIVE backup using HEVC....

[lauguru]

Originally Posted by mparade

I have just bought a media tank (DUNE HD Solo 4K) which supports both HEVC 10-bit streams and the BD structure with menus. Maybe, I should try to play an ARCHIVE backup using HEVC....

Try, if you can play there, would be a big step.

try with in bdrebuilder.ini

ARCHIVE_MODE=1
ARCHIVE_QUALITY=0
ARCHIVE_LIMIT=0
ARCHIVE_265=1
ARCHIVE_ENABLE=1


jdobbs/ ARCHIVE_MODE have only 1 pass?

- Input BD size: 30,98 GB
- Approximate total content: [02:23:01.906]
- Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
- Archive Backup (HEVC/AAC) mode enabled
- Quality: Good (Very Fast)
- X264 Tweak(s) enabled
- Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
- Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=640
[17:21:52] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [17:21:52] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 10)
- [17:21:52] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- [17:21:59] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
- Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
- Rate/Length: 23,976fps, 2.657 frames
- [17:21:59] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 1
- [17:22:52] Video Encode complete

[gonca]

@lauguru
Might be linked to quality settings
Try High quality 2 pass or crf if you wish

[lauguru]

I have finished the process but the end result:

30 gb to 5,29 GB (5.689.499.768 bytes) and custom target 24280 mb ( in ARCHIVE_MODE not work custom target?)

[mparade]

Originally Posted by lauguru

Try, if you can play there, would be a big step.

try with in bdrebuilder.ini

ARCHIVE_MODE=1
ARCHIVE_QUALITY=0
ARCHIVE_LIMIT=0
ARCHIVE_265=1
ARCHIVE_ENABLE=1


jdobbs/ ARCHIVE_MODE have only 1 pass?

Tomorrow, I will give you the info if the output of BD-RB can be played correctly on my DUNE HD or not.

[mparade]

If someone is interested in the new UHD BD specification:

http://www.blu-raydisc.info/licensee...censeelist.php

[Ch3vr0n]

I fail to see the relevance to bdrb for the moment. Bdrb doesn't process copy protected material and aacs 2.0 hasn't been broken yet.

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[jdobbs]

Originally Posted by lauguru

I have finished the process but the end result:

30 gb to 5,29 GB (5.689.499.768 bytes) and custom target 24280 mb ( in ARCHIVE_MODE not work custom target?)

Archive mode uses a fixed CRF value. Target sizes aren't applicable.

The default archive value is 23. Lower values are larger with higher quality, higher values are smaller with lower quality. 23 is a good balance. Anything below 16 is wasted space (16 is close to perfect reproduction). 18 is a very high quality archive.

[Lathe]

Originally Posted by jdobbs

Archive mode uses a fixed CRF value. Target sizes aren't applicable.

The default archive value is 23. Lower values are larger with higher quality, higher values are smaller with lower quality. 23 is a good balance. Anything below 16 is wasted space (16 is close to perfect reproduction). 18 is a very high quality archive.

Just out of curiosity then, say I wanted to archive a Blu-ray where the video part only is about 20 Gigs. And I wanted to archive it in the best ('reasonable') quality, which at the extreme is, say, '16'. How EXACTLY would I set my ini / settings to do that? And also, just a wild guess (if possible) about what do you think the resulting size would be (assuming an average Blu-ray with average action scenes, etc.)

The reason I am asking is because I have around 7 or 8 HDDs and the bloody things are getting pretty full of the stuff I want to archive / back up. Almost everything is lossless (the reason being is duplication in case of catastrophe / loss - I keep the HDDs in another place) BUT, I'm thinking that if I archive stuff at '16' I honestly shouldn't be able to tell any difference. So, I am curious as to about how much space I would save (being the A/V-phile that I am, although not as obsessive as some, I would likely select Blu-rays that are not as critical visually to back up in this way)

Thanks for any thoughts on this...

Oh, and what exactly does the resulting file look like, since in this unique case, the result is NOT going to be in a playable Blu-ray, BDMV format? Also, will I be able to keep whatever lossless audio and other audio that I wish to keep? Will it be muxed with this new file? Also too, after it is archived, how does one 'restore' it to a playable Blu-ray?

(Thanks gonca, but I think I'm gonna need a LOT more info than that Full ini settings, etc., thanks though!)

[gonca]

ARCHIVE_CRF=16 in INI
You can probably play back the M2TS files, just not the structure

[Lathe]

Okay, from looking at the hidden Opts settings and looking at the post above, it LOOKS like I need to set these for sure:

ARCHIVE_265=1 (for x265)
ARCHIVE_CRF=16 (as gonca said)
ARCHIVE_ENABLE=1 (to turn it on, I guess...)
ARCHIVE_LIMIT=1 (to keep all audio, lossless & otherwise, as already set in the 'Settings' I think)

If anyone can confirm if this is right so far, and whatever else is needed, and also any info about the other things I was curious about.

[Lathe]

Sorry..., just thought of this...

Also, is there a BIG difference in whether you archive using x264 (with which, obviously, I would be a lot more familiar) or x265?
In other words, if I archived a Blu-ray using x264 CRF=16 or x265, what basically is the difference?

I'm GUESSING that if I just archive using x264, then the resulting file is basically what you keep and play later on, right? There would be no need for future conversion 'back' into anything. Whereas with x265, then you WOULD have to convert the archive somehow 'back' into a playable Blu-ray format, right? Wouldn't it then be simpler and just make more sense to backup using x264 with a CRF of 16 and leave it at that...? (I guess 'tweaks' could be used with this too)

Thanks!