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Old 31st March 2020, 01:29   #29341  |  Link
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heres my rocky, but with DTS audio, end result 7.4 gig, video 5.81 gig, audio 1.2gig

also your 31 gig file holds 6 hours of content, wow...
Looks like you used Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV. I'll try another and keep the DTS core and report back. And yes, the disc has LOTS of extras...
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Old 31st March 2020, 02:58   #29342  |  Link
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OK, here's another Rocky default BD9 w/DTS and DGDecNV. File size finished at 6.35GB, same as before. Something's weird...

Code:
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[03/30/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[14:44:18] Source:  ROCKY
  - Input BD size: 31.39 GB
  - Approximate total content: [06:16:13.383]
  - Target BD size: 7.84 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=640
[14:44:18] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [14:44:18] Processing: VID_00020 (1 of 99)
 - [14:44:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00020]
 - [14:44:29] Reencoding video [VID_00020]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1,740 frames
   - Bitrate: 8,694 Kbs
 - [14:44:29] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 1 of 2
 - [14:44:44] Reencoding: VID_00020, Pass 2 of 2
 - [14:45:07] Video Encode complete
 - [14:45:07] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [14:45:07] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00070 (2 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00121 (3 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00122 (4 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00123 (5 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00131 (6 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00133 (7 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00151 (8 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00152 (9 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00153 (10 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00154 (11 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00155 (12 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00156 (13 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00157 (14 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00158 (15 of 99)
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 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00160 (17 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00161 (18 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00162 (19 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00163 (20 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00164 (21 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00165 (22 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00166 (23 of 99)
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 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00175 (32 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00176 (33 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00177 (34 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00178 (35 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00179 (36 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00180 (37 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00181 (38 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00182 (39 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00183 (40 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00184 (41 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00185 (42 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00186 (43 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00187 (44 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00188 (45 of 99)
 - [14:45:11] Blanking: VID_00189 (46 of 99)
 - [14:45:12] Blanking: VID_00190 (47 of 99)
 - [14:45:12] Blanking: VID_00191 (48 of 99)
 - [14:45:12] Processing: VID_00200 (49 of 99)
 - [14:45:12] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
 - [14:45:16] Reencoding video [VID_00200]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 249 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,639 Kbs
 - [14:45:16] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 1 of 2
 - [14:45:18] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 2 of 2
 - [14:45:21] Video Encode complete
 - [14:45:21] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [14:45:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:45:25] Blanking: VID_00220 (50 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Blanking: VID_00234 (51 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Blanking: VID_00370 (52 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Blanking: VID_00371 (53 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Blanking: VID_00372 (54 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Processing: VID_00600 (55 of 99)
 - [14:45:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
 - [14:45:29] Reencoding video [VID_00600]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 1 frames
   - Bitrate: 8,537 Kbs
 - [14:45:29] Reencoding: VID_00600, Pass 1 of 2
 - [14:45:30] Reencoding: VID_00600, Pass 2 of 2
 - [14:45:31] Video Encode complete
 - [14:45:31] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [14:45:31] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:45:34] Blanking: VID_00601 (56 of 99)
 - [14:45:34] Processing: VID_00720 (57 of 99)
 - [14:45:34] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00720]
 - [14:45:39] Reencoding video [VID_00720]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 430 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,307 Kbs
 - [14:45:39] Reencoding: VID_00720, Pass 1 of 2
 - [14:45:44] Reencoding: VID_00720, Pass 2 of 2
 - [14:45:52] Video Encode complete
 - [14:45:52] Processing audio tracks
 - [14:45:52] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:45:55] Processing: VID_00800 (58 of 99)
 - [14:45:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
 - [14:55:59] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 172,170 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,305 Kbs
 - [14:55:59] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 2
 - [15:12:22] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 2 of 2
 - [15:45:21] Video Encode complete
 - [15:45:21] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [15:45:21] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01288 (59 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01289 (60 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01290 (61 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01291 (62 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01292 (63 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01293 (64 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01294 (65 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01295 (66 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01296 (67 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01297 (68 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01298 (69 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01299 (70 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01300 (71 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01301 (72 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01302 (73 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01303 (74 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01304 (75 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01305 (76 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01306 (77 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01307 (78 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01308 (79 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01309 (80 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01310 (81 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01311 (82 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01312 (83 of 99)
 - [15:47:12] Blanking: VID_01313 (84 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01314 (85 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01315 (86 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01316 (87 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01317 (88 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01318 (89 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01319 (90 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01320 (91 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01321 (92 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01525 (93 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01526 (94 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01527 (95 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01528 (96 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01529 (97 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01530 (98 of 99)
 - [15:47:13] Blanking: VID_01531 (99 of 99)
[15:47:13]PHASE ONE complete
[15:47:13]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [15:47:13] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[15:47:17] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[15:47:17] JOB: ROCKY finished.
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Old 31st March 2020, 12:00   #29343  |  Link
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what is the file size from the original is vid 00800 ??, maby your source file is of low file size, cos 6 hours on a 31 gig prob means the main movie is of low bitrate and file size to begin with ??

my main file source is vid_00002 is 22 gigs

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Old 31st March 2020, 15:12   #29344  |  Link
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ohhh whats 4 way ?? - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way], ive tried enabling multiprossess but I don't see that in my log ?

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Old 31st March 2020, 22:24   #29345  |  Link
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what is the file size from the original is vid 00800 ??, maby your source file is of low file size, cos 6 hours on a 31 gig prob means the main movie is of low bitrate and file size to begin with ??

my main file source is vid_00002 is 22 gigs
My VID_00800 is 32GB. DTS-MA 5.1 track, AC3 Mono track, 8 foreign language tracks, 3 commentary tracks. Disc has 12GB of extras. 43.6GB total.

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ohhh whats 4 way ?? - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way], ive tried enabling multiprossess but I don't see that in my log ?
From the hiddenopts.txt: MULTIPROCESS=n - Experimental, see http://www.jdobbs.net/freeware/multiprocessing.html
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Old 31st March 2020, 22:36   #29346  |  Link
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OK, I decided to start over. Uninstalled BDRB, Avisynth 2.60, LAVFilters 0.65. Re-downloaded and reinstalled everything from the main page.

Here's the last one I did. Movie/Menu's, AC3@640, had to use a custom target of 9472MB (9.25GB) to get a finished file size of 7.67GB which I'm happy with. Still don't understand why everything is coming out so undersized???

Code:
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[03/30/20] BD Rebuilder v0.61.05
[21:33:08] Source:  ROCKY
  - Input BD size: 31.39 GB
  - Approximate total content: [06:16:13.383]
  - Target BD size: 9.25 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.2 [9200]
  - MOVIE and MENUS mode enabled
  - Auto Quality: High Quality (Default), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV [4-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=1 HD=0 Kbs=640
[21:33:08] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00070 (1 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00121 (2 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00122 (3 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00123 (4 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00131 (5 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00133 (6 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00151 (7 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00152 (8 of 97)
 - [21:33:08] Blanking: VID_00153 (9 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00154 (10 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00155 (11 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00156 (12 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00157 (13 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00158 (14 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00159 (15 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00160 (16 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00161 (17 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00162 (18 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00163 (19 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00164 (20 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00165 (21 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00166 (22 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00167 (23 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00168 (24 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00169 (25 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00170 (26 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00171 (27 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00172 (28 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00173 (29 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00174 (30 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00175 (31 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00176 (32 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00177 (33 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00178 (34 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00179 (35 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00180 (36 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00181 (37 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00182 (38 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00183 (39 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00184 (40 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00185 (41 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00186 (42 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00187 (43 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00188 (44 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00189 (45 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00190 (46 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Blanking: VID_00191 (47 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Processing: VID_00200 (48 of 97)
 - [21:33:09] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00200]
 - [21:33:14] Reencoding video [VID_00200]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 249 frames
   - Bitrate: 5,302 Kbs
 - [21:33:14] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 1 of 2
 - [21:33:16] Reencoding: VID_00200, Pass 2 of 2
 - [21:33:19] Video Encode complete
 - [21:33:19] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [21:33:20] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:33:23] Blanking: VID_00220 (49 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Blanking: VID_00234 (50 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Blanking: VID_00370 (51 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Blanking: VID_00371 (52 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Blanking: VID_00372 (53 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Processing: VID_00600 (54 of 97)
 - [21:33:23] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00600]
 - [21:33:27] Reencoding video [VID_00600]
 - [21:33:27] Keeping original video (no reencode)
 - [21:33:27] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [21:33:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:33:31] Blanking: VID_00601 (55 of 97)
 - [21:33:31] Processing: VID_00800 (56 of 97)
 - [21:33:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00800]
 - [21:39:44] Reencoding video [VID_00800]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 172,170 frames
   - Bitrate: 7,437 Kbs
 - [21:39:44] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 1 of 2
 - [21:56:46] Reencoding: VID_00800, Pass 2 of 2
 - [22:34:27] Video Encode complete
 - [22:34:27] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
 - [22:37:01] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:40:38] Blanking: VID_01288 (57 of 97)
 - [22:40:38] Blanking: VID_01289 (58 of 97)
 - [22:40:38] Blanking: VID_01290 (59 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01291 (60 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01292 (61 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01293 (62 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01294 (63 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01295 (64 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01296 (65 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01297 (66 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01298 (67 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01299 (68 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01300 (69 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01301 (70 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01302 (71 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01303 (72 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01304 (73 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01305 (74 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01306 (75 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01307 (76 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01308 (77 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01309 (78 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01310 (79 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01311 (80 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01312 (81 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01313 (82 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01314 (83 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01315 (84 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01316 (85 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01317 (86 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01318 (87 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01319 (88 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01320 (89 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01321 (90 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01525 (91 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01526 (92 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01527 (93 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01528 (94 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01529 (95 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01530 (96 of 97)
 - [22:40:39] Blanking: VID_01531 (97 of 97)
[22:40:39]PHASE ONE complete
[22:40:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [22:40:39] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[22:40:48] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[22:40:48] JOB: ROCKY finished.
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Old 31st March 2020, 22:57   #29347  |  Link
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hmm odd not sure whats going on there then at a target size of 7.8 your getting a bitrate of 5.300 yet I get 6.680

I have multiprosess at 1, but don't see the 4 way in my log
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Old 1st April 2020, 04:14   #29348  |  Link
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hmm odd not sure whats going on there then at a target size of 7.8 your getting a bitrate of 5.300 yet I get 6.680
I don't know, I'm stumped. If jdobbs can come up with anything then great. I'm happy with the last one I did so I'll chalk it up to an anomaly and leave it at that.

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I have multiprosess at 1, but don't see the 4 way in my log
With BDRB open, click on File>View/Edit Config file. Copy/paste MULTIPROCESS=1 above [Paths] like this then save. Make sure spelling is correct. You do have a multi-core processor, right?

MULTIPROCESS=1
[Paths]

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Old 1st April 2020, 12:35   #29349  |  Link
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With BDRB open, click on File>View/Edit Config file. Copy/paste MULTIPROCESS=1 above [Paths] like this then save. Make sure spelling is correct. You do have a multi-core processor, right?

MULTIPROCESS=1
[Paths]
oh wow cheers, hmm ok so just changing the hiddenops.txt doesn't activate multiprosess, you have to add it in bdrebuilder also, hmm not seen that documented anywhere and I spent prob an hour searching 2 way 4 way on the net and only came across a post that said you need to edit the hiddenops to activate it

lol only after do I read the top text "This file contains descriptions of settings that can be added to the BDREBUILDER.INI file (via the Config/INI
editor) that may change the handling of files during conversion, reencode, and rebuild." DOH, I thought it read the settings from that txt file and thinking I had multithread on, OMG the amount of time I prob could of saved if it was realy on "cry"

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I don't know, I'm stumped. If jdobbs can come up with anything then great. I'm happy with the last one I did so I'll chalk it up to an anomaly and leave it at that.

With BDRB open, click on File>View/Edit Config file. Copy/paste MULTIPROCESS=1 above [Paths] like this then save. Make sure spelling is correct. You do have a multi-core processor, right?

MULTIPROCESS=1
[Paths]
Can you post the contents of your INI so I can see if there is anything that might cause your odd bitrates?
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oh wow cheers, hmm ok so just changing the hiddenops.txt doesn't activate multiprosess, you have to add it in bdrebuilder also, hmm not seen that documented anywhere
Actually, how hiddenopts.txt works is explained. You just need to go back to the start of this thread and look thru the posts. Also, the first few lines of the file explain it as well.
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lol only after do I read the top text "This file contains descriptions of settings that can be added to the BDREBUILDER.INI file (via the Config/INI
editor) that may change the handling of files during conversion, reencode, and rebuild." DOH, I thought it read the settings from that txt file and thinking I had multithread on, OMG the amount of time I prob could of saved if it was realy on "cry"
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Can you post the contents of your INI so I can see if there is anything that might cause your odd bitrates?
Here ya go...

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[Options]
VERSION=0.61.0.5
ENCODER=0
MODE=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=2
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=1
TARGET_SIZE=8032
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=eng;
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=1
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
AUDIO_DRC=0
DECODER=3
AVCHD=0
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=1
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
PGSTOSRT=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=1
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=1
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=9472
MOVIE_ONLY_LOOP=0
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENABLE_BLANKING=1
BLANK_THRESHOLD=1800
MULTIPROCESS=1
AUTO_BIAS=2
AUTO_TWOPASSONLY=1
BEEP_SOUNDFILE=C:\Windows\Media\tada.wav
[Paths]
SOURCE_PATH=M:\
WORKING_PATH=I:\ROCKY_BD9\
DGIndexNV=C:\Users\eM3\Downloads\dgdecnv2053\x32 Binaries\DGIndexNV.exe
DGDecNV=C:\Users\eM3\Downloads\dgdecnv2053\x32 Binaries\DGDecodeNV.dll
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I've been looking at your log in this post. It looks like the reason your bitrate is dropping on "Rocky" is because you'd set a target size that is greater than 8500. When BD-RB sees that, it assumes you are writing to something larger than a DVD-R. So, it removes the restrictions. One of the restrictions is that large audio streams are reencoded to AC3. You'll notice that in the first log you see this:
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 - [22:18:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
for your first encode, while you see this:
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 - [19:50:51] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
in your second log. The bitrate is dropping because you have your audio settings set to not reencode to AC3. When outputting to DVD-R, the audio is always reencoded because of output disc size. Setting the target above 8500 tells BD-RB you aren't using DVD-R.


In your second example (outputting to DVD-5) you are undersizing because BD-RB reached the maximum bitrate that can be used on a DVD-R:
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 - [09:04:34] Reencoding video [VID_01227]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,052 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
There's nothing BD-RB can do about that, because increasing the bitrate would very likely make the disc unplayable by violating the DVD-R's maximum bitrate standard.
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Hi jdobbs
Any chance to add a hidden option in order for BDRebuilder to Extract A/V streams from all M2TS (and when finished) then Multiplexing all M2TS file instead of doing Extracting A/V streams (M2TS_1) -> Multiplexing M2TS file (M2TS_1) -> Extracting A/V streams (M2TS_2) -> Multiplexing M2TS file (M2TS_2) ?
I am replacing subtitles sup files from others with different languague and it would help (or else i have to do Multiplexing M2TS file twice)
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I've been looking at your log in this post. It looks like the reason your bitrate is dropping on "Rocky" is because you'd set a target size that is greater than 8500. When BD-RB sees that, it assumes you are writing to something larger than a DVD-R. So, it removes the restrictions. One of the restrictions is that large audio streams are reencoded to AC3. You'll notice that in the first log you see this:
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 - [22:18:17] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
Yes, in my first log (default BD9) I chose to re-encode to AC3 because the main track is DTS-MA 5.1 (way overkill for this title, even at BD25). This came out undersized at 6.35GB. This was the main point of my first post, why was the default BD9 setting coming out so undersized, and why I tried to increase the target size in the second one.

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...while you see this in your second log:
Code:
 - [19:50:51] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
The bitrate is dropping because you have your audio settings set to not reencode to AC3. When outputting to DVD-R, the audio is always reencoded because of output disc size. Setting the target above 8500 tells BD-RB you aren't using DVD-R.
I understand that the audio is reencoded or the core is used for BD5/9 for either Dolby or DTS due to size restrictions. In the second log I chose to keep the DTS core which is why it's "keeping original audio". I also switched to Decoding/Frame serving: DGDecNV hoping for a different outcome, not knowing at the time what happens over 8500. If the restrictions are removed at 8500 the bitrate should increase in my way of thinking. If I'm using a custom target over 8500 there should be no restrictions, but BDRB still thinks I'm using DVD-R/+R and decreases the bitrate?

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In your second example (outputting to DVD-5) you are undersizing because BD-RB reached the maximum bitrate that can be used on a DVD-R:
Code:
 - [09:04:34] Reencoding video [VID_01227]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 23.976fps, 2,052 frames
   - Bitrate: 15,000 Kbs
There's nothing BD-RB can do about that, because increasing the bitrate would very likely make the disc unplayable by violating the DVD-R's maximum bitrate standard.
With an - Input BD size: 5.09 GB and a - Target BD5 size: 4.36 GB I wouldn't expect BDRB to max out the bitrate at 15,000 Kbs, but I guess this job required it. I'll see what happens with my next job and report back. Thanks for your help...

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Here's the Media Info for my Rocky disc from MPC-HC. I didn't include all the foreign language stuff, just the main movie and DTS-MA 5.1 track. Have a look if that will help troubleshoot the weirdness on this disc. Don't mean to be a PITA or question your software (I've donated a couple times) just trying to figure out why this title comes out so undersized at BD9...

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General
Complete name                  : M:\BDMV\PLAYLIST\00800.mpls
Format                         : Blu-ray Playlist
File size                      : 1.37 KiB
Duration                       : 1 h 59 min
Overall bit rate mode          : Variable
Overall bit rate               : 2 b/s

Video
ID                             : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : AVC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                 : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC         : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames     : 4 frames
Codec ID                       : 27
Duration                       : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                  : Variable
Maximum bit rate               : 30.0 Mb/s
Width                          : 1 920 pixels
Height                         : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate                     : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Scan type                      : Progressive
format_identifier              : HDMV
Source                         : 00800.m2ts

Audio #1
ID                             : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                        : 1 (0x1)
Format                         : DTS
Format/Info                    : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile                 : MA / Core
Mode                           : 16
Format settings, Endianness    : Big
Muxing mode                    : Stream extension
Codec ID                       : 134
Duration                       : 1 h 59 min
Bit rate mode                  : Variable / Constant
Bit rate                       : Unknown / 1 509 kb/s
Channel(s)                     : 6 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                     : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF)
Bit depth                      : 24 bits
Compression mode               : Lossless / Lossy
Language                       : English
Source                         : 00800.m2ts

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obviously how you want to encode video and where you store it is your choice, but why are you wanting to squish BD sources onto a DVD in BD format ?? id understand if you were converting BD to DVD (VOB) , 25gig blurays are well cheap
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obviously how you want to encode video and where you store it is your choice, but why are you wanting to squish BD sources onto a DVD in BD format ?? id understand if you were converting BD to DVD (VOB) , 25gig blurays are well cheap
Because I don't burn to disc, I save all my encodes on hard disks, which I access on my computer w/Kodi/MadVR etc. Encoding to BD9 w/lossy audio (for most titles) saves a ton of space without sacrificing picture quality, which is the main point of BDRB. It does an absolutely fantastic job doing this, and I've been using it since it's inception. I also use BD9 just in case I have the need to burn, and those DVD+R DL discs will play on my older Sony Blu-ray player ;^). Of course I use BD25 for newer titles w/7.1 lossless audio (the John Wick series for example) and those encodes are indistinguishable from the originals.

You did Rocky as a BD9 here https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.p...25#post1905725. Was this just a test or do you encode to BD9 as well?

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