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Old 5th February 2014, 01:20   #19121  |  Link
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Is it possible with the current BD-RB to process a 3D BD disk as 2D in Full backup mode or just in movie-only mode?

I have a few disks just in 3D version.
Select "Process 3D Sources as 2D for Backup" in the SETUP dialog.
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The multiprocess is really useful!

I actually wrote multiprocessing support for v0.46.10, but unfortunately when two instances are running one of them always fails. So I had to disable it for the release. Before the crash it was giving about a 32% speed improvement. I'm still trying to run down why it crashes. If I can find a workaround, I might be able to get it in the next version. But I suspect it may be something out of my control.
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Old 5th February 2014, 01:52   #19123  |  Link
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Another DVD Import Series with Sound Lag

I found another series where the sound lags from the video: "The Wire" Season 1 DVD to BD (similar to post 18899)

This too was a hybrid video. Here is the log file and one .avs file:

Code:
[12/09/13] BD Rebuilder v0.45.05 (beta)
[16:34:31] Source:  WIRE_S1
  - Input BD size: 35.77 GB
  - Approximate total content: [12:39:34.038]
  - Target BD size: 22.95 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - Quality: Highest (Very Slow), Two Pass
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=1 Kbs=448
[16:34:33] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [16:34:33] Processing: VID_00001 (1 of 13)
 - [16:34:33] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00001]
 - [16:37:34] Reencoding video [VID_00001]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 107,022 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,147 Kbs
 - [16:37:35] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 1 of 2
 - [17:03:39] Reencoding: VID_00001, Pass 2 of 2
 - [19:12:38] Video Encode complete
 - [19:12:38] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [19:12:38] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [19:14:55] Processing: VID_00002 (2 of 13)
 - [19:14:55] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00002]
 - [19:18:39] Reencoding video [VID_00002]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 107,952 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,101 Kbs
 - [19:18:40] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 1 of 2
 - [19:46:12] Reencoding: VID_00002, Pass 2 of 2
 - [21:51:30] Video Encode complete
 - [21:51:30] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [21:51:31] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [21:53:10] Processing: VID_00003 (3 of 13)
 - [21:53:10] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00003]
 - [21:55:27] Reencoding video [VID_00003]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 106,662 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,060 Kbs
 - [21:55:27] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 1 of 2
 - [22:19:51] Reencoding: VID_00003, Pass 2 of 2
 - [00:16:18] Video Encode complete
 - [00:16:18] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [00:16:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [00:17:31] Processing: VID_00004 (4 of 13)
 - [00:17:31] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00004]
 - [00:19:45] Reencoding video [VID_00004]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 106,362 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,079 Kbs
 - [00:19:46] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 1 of 2
 - [00:44:10] Reencoding: VID_00004, Pass 2 of 2
 - [02:40:30] Video Encode complete
 - [02:40:30] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [02:40:30] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [02:41:43] Processing: VID_00005 (5 of 13)
 - [02:41:43] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00005]
 - [02:44:07] Reencoding video [VID_00005]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 100,818 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,417 Kbs
 - [02:44:07] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 1 of 2
 - [03:07:33] Reencoding: VID_00005, Pass 2 of 2
 - [05:00:12] Video Encode complete
 - [05:00:12] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [05:00:12] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [05:01:28] Processing: VID_00006 (6 of 13)
 - [05:01:28] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00006]
 - [05:03:35] Reencoding video [VID_00006]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 101,968 frames
   - Bitrate: 2,927 Kbs
 - [05:03:35] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 1 of 2
 - [05:26:44] Reencoding: VID_00006, Pass 2 of 2
 - [07:19:52] Video Encode complete
 - [07:19:52] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [07:19:52] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [07:20:59] Processing: VID_00007 (7 of 13)
 - [07:20:59] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00007]
 - [07:23:09] Reencoding video [VID_00007]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 99,860 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,129 Kbs
 - [07:23:10] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 1 of 2
 - [07:46:27] Reencoding: VID_00007, Pass 2 of 2
 - [09:42:27] Video Encode complete
 - [09:42:27] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [09:42:27] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [09:43:36] Processing: VID_00008 (8 of 13)
 - [09:43:36] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00008]
 - [09:45:54] Reencoding video [VID_00008]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 101,348 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,228 Kbs
 - [09:45:55] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 1 of 2
 - [10:09:06] Reencoding: VID_00008, Pass 2 of 2
 - [12:03:05] Video Encode complete
 - [12:03:05] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [12:03:05] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [12:04:18] Processing: VID_00009 (9 of 13)
 - [12:04:18] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00009]
 - [12:07:33] Reencoding video [VID_00009]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 101,231 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,716 Kbs
 - [12:07:33] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 1 of 2
 - [12:33:20] Reencoding: VID_00009, Pass 2 of 2
 - [14:44:18] Video Encode complete
 - [14:44:18] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [14:44:18] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [14:46:07] Processing: VID_00010 (10 of 13)
 - [14:46:07] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00010]
 - [14:49:30] Reencoding video [VID_00010]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 117,887 frames
   - Bitrate: 4,390 Kbs
 - [14:49:31] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 1 of 2
 - [15:17:58] Reencoding: VID_00010, Pass 2 of 2
 - [17:33:58] Video Encode complete
 - [17:33:58] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [17:33:58] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [17:36:00] Processing: VID_00011 (11 of 13)
 - [17:36:01] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00011]
 - [17:38:34] Reencoding video [VID_00011]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 111,738 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,297 Kbs
 - [17:38:35] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 1 of 2
 - [18:04:02] Reencoding: VID_00011, Pass 2 of 2
 - [20:07:04] Video Encode complete
 - [20:07:04] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [20:07:04] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [20:08:25] Processing: VID_00012 (12 of 13)
 - [20:08:25] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00012]
 - [20:10:59] Reencoding video [VID_00012]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 103,936 frames
   - Bitrate: 3,706 Kbs
 - [20:11:00] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 1 of 2
 - [20:36:02] Reencoding: VID_00012, Pass 2 of 2
 - [22:41:14] Video Encode complete
 - [22:41:15] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [22:41:15] Multiplexing M2TS
 - [22:42:37] Processing: VID_00013 (13 of 13)
 - [22:42:37] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00013]
 - [22:44:44] Reencoding video [VID_00013]
   - Source Video: MPEG-2, 720x480, Hybrid
   - Rate/Length: 29.970fps, 99,040 frames
   - Bitrate: 2,973 Kbs
 - [22:44:44] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 1 of 2
 - [23:07:39] Reencoding: VID_00013, Pass 2 of 2
 - [00:58:32] Video Encode complete
 - [00:58:32] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Keeping original audio
 - [00:58:32] Multiplexing M2TS
[00:59:39]PHASE ONE complete
[00:59:39]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [00:59:39] Rebuilding BD file Structure
[00:59:48] - Encode and Rebuild complete
[00:59:49] Writing BD structure to ISO file
 - ImgBurn completed successfully
 - WIRE_S1 folder removed.
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[01:27:25] JOB: WIRE_S1 finished.
#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.06 (beta)
DirectshowSource("F:\BDS\WIRE_S1\IMPORTS\WIRE_S1\BDMV\STREAM\00001.m2ts", fps=29.97, framecount=111739, ConvertFPS=true, audio=false)
ConvertToYV12()
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\decomb521.dll")
FieldDeinterlace(blend=true)
ConvertToYV12().AssumeFPS(30000,1001)

#Created by BD Rebuilder - v0.46.06 (beta)
LoadPlugin("C:\Temp\Software\BD_Rebuilder\tools\nicaudio.dll")
audio=NicAC3Source("00001.track_4352.ac3")
audio = (AudioChannels(audio) > 6) ? GetChannel(audio,1,2,3,4,7,8) : audio
ConvertAudioTo16bit(ResampleAudio(audio, 48000))

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Old 5th February 2014, 15:15   #19124  |  Link
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I've ordered "The Wire S1" for testing. It's a good series. When I get it I'll see if I can repeat your issue.
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Old 5th February 2014, 16:19   #19125  |  Link
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The Americans disc 1 contains some deleted scenes that are AVC, 720x480/29.97fps, interlaced BFF. I ran a Full backup and those deleted scenes play kinda messed up, lots of combing and weird motion artefacts. Mediainfo reports output's deleted scenes are 720x480/29.97, MBAFF.

This was done on BD-RB v0.45.05. Decoding was LAVF, deinterlacing was not enabled and neither was IVTC for 3:2 pulldown.

Source m2ts files play fine without combing or motion artefacts on PowerDVD and MPC-HC, while output files glitch on both.
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The Americans disc 1 contains some deleted scenes that are AVC, 720x480/29.97fps, interlaced BFF. I ran a Full backup and those deleted scenes play kinda messed up, lots of combing and weird motion artefacts. Mediainfo reports output's deleted scenes are 720x480/29.97, MBAFF.

This was done on BD-RB v0.45.05. Decoding was LAVF, deinterlacing was not enabled and neither was IVTC for 3:2 pulldown.

Source m2ts files play fine without combing or motion artefacts on PowerDVD and MPC-HC, while output files glitch on both.
The documentary "Super Speedway" is also interlaced that way.
I can only convert correctly specifying the field order(--bff).
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The documentary "Super Speedway" is also interlaced that way.
I can only convert correctly specifying the field order(--bff).
That shouldn't be an issue. BD-RB scans the source and recognizes bff sources. I'd recommend against using LAVF on those types of sources (BFF, Hybrid, etc.), though, because it doesn't have the tools needed to correctly interpret them. In fact in a lot of instances when LAVF is chosen BD-RB will use DirectshowSource() anyway because of those oddities.
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That shouldn't be an issue. BD-RB scans the source and recognizes bff sources. I'd recommend against using LAVF on those types of sources (BFF, Hybrid, etc.), though, because it doesn't have the tools needed to correctly interpret them. In fact in a lot of instances when LAVF is chosen BD-RB will use DirectshowSource() anyway because of those oddities.
Thanks for the tip, I'll try again later using the lavf.
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Thanks for the tip, I'll try again later using the lavf.
Actually I recommended NOT using LAVF.
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Sorry, I thought of one thing and wrote another.
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@jdobbs: wouldn't it be wiser then to remove the LAVF option entirely fromt he setup menu, since as you say in most cases it doesn't actually get used anyway?
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@jdobbs: wouldn't it be wiser then to remove the LAVF option entirely fromt he setup menu, since as you say in most cases it doesn't actually get used anyway?
No... I never said "in most cases it doesn't get used" -- in the vast majority of cases it is used when selected. It's the exception that situations might dictate otherwise.
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I did two tests but both showed jerky movements. The fields were not combined in the correct order.

Code:
BD source

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=18
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 49mn 41s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Maximum bit rate                         : 35.0 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Standard                                 : NTSC
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan order                               : Bottom Field First
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

[02/06/14] BD Rebuilder v0.46.11 (beta)
[11:06:17] Source:  SUPER_SPEEDWAY_00000
  - Input BD size: 12,45 GB
  - Approximate total content: [00:49:41.978]
  - Target BD size: 4,38 GB
  - Windows Version: 6.1 [7601]
  - MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
  - Quality: Good (Very Fast), Two Pass
  - Output folder: E:\VIDEOS\
  - Decoding/Frame serving: DirectShow [3-way]
  - Audio Settings: AC3=0 DTS=0 HD=0 Kbs=448
  - Subtitle [1] is defaulted ON.
[11:06:17] PHASE ONE, Encoding
 - [11:06:17] Processing: VID_00000 (1 of 1)
 - [11:06:17] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
 - [11:08:31] Reencoding video [VID_00000]
   - Source Video: MPEG-4 (AVC), 1920x1080
   - Rate/Length: 29,970fps, 89.370 frames
   - Bitrate: 11.189 Kbs
 - [11:08:31] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 1 of 2
 - [11:29:12] Reencoding: VID_00000, Pass 2 of 2
 - [11:49:43] Video Encode complete
 - [11:49:43] Processing audio tracks
   - Track 4352 (eng): Reencoding audio to AC3...
[11:50:54]PHASE ONE complete
[11:50:54]PHASE TWO - Rebuild Started
 - [11:50:54] Rebuilding AVCHD file Structure
[11:51:42] - Encode and Rebuild complete
 - WORKFILES folder removed.
[11:51:42] JOB: SUPER_SPEEDWAY finished.

[Status]
LABEL=SUPER_SPEEDWAY
VERSION=v0.46.11 (beta)
SOURCE_SIZE=13369933824
SOURCE_VIDEO_SIZE=13369933824
TARGET_SIZE=4697620480
REDUCTION=.351357047973374
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=0
SUBS_TO_KEEP=por;
BACKUP_MODE=1
MOVIEONLY_TYPE=0
USE_LAVF=0
INSTANCES=3
DGDECNV=0
SSIF_MODE=0
QUICK=0
ENCODE_STEP=0
COMPLETED=1
REBUILD_COMPLETE=1
[00000]
AUDIO=100
PGS=1
APULLDOWN=0
S1440=0
VIDEO2=0
V2MBRATE=0
M2TS_TARGET=4697620480
RATE=11189
SPLITS=3
NSIZE=0
FLINK=0
MLINK=0
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So this was an HD AVC source with BFF? That's the first I've seen of that. I thought you were talking about MPEG-2. I'll look at it.
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That's right, this one.
I also, the first and only.

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Does the import and convert from SBS to BD 3D also support over/under?
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Does the import and convert from SBS to BD 3D also support over/under?
Not currently. Right now I have no plans to support it, as over/under is fairly uncommon, but I might consider it if there is demand.
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jdobbs, please see my post here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...59#post1666659

I just did a test on The X-Files I Want To Believe and every video that was muxed/processed in BD Rebuilder was heavily corrupted. I did a test running short clips through tsMuxeR and changing the video settings to what I mentioned in the above post fixed those issues. I don't know what that video setting does but I do know that disabling it produced a clean output but I assume that BD Rebuilder keeps that settings enabled which is why the video came out so bad. Jediknight's screen shots are exactly what I'm getting as an output from BD Rebuilder or tsMuxeR when that setting was enabled. Ironically, my movie is a FOX title as well... Any video that wasn't processed in BDRebuilder (menus, some bonus materials, etc...) is fine.

FYI, I've done short video clip tests using just about every version of tsMuxeR v2.xx to see if I could figure where this issue started and ALL v2.xx's have the same result (bad video corruption with the video setting enabled) in tsMuxeR. Doing the same test with tsMuxeR v1.10.6 came out fine but that doesn't support DTS-Express or PIP Video. A simple solution for now in tsMuxeR v2.xx is to simply disable the setting but as I said before I don't know what it does or if it's important.

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jdobbs, please see my post here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...59#post1666659

I just did a test on The X-Files I Want To Believe and every video that was muxed/processed in BD Rebuilder was heavily corrupted. I did a test running short clips through tsMuxeR and changing the video settings to what I mentioned in the above post fixed those issues. I don't know what that video setting does but I do know that disabling it produced a clean output but I assume that BD Rebuilder keeps that settings enabled which is why the video came out so bad. Jediknight's screen shots are exactly what I'm getting as an output from BD Rebuilder or tsMuxeR when that setting was enabled. Ironically, my movie is a FOX title as well... Any video that wasn't processed in BDRebuilder (menus, some bonus materials, etc...) is fine.

FYI, I've done short video clip tests using just about every version of tsMuxeR v2.xx to see if I could figure where this issue started and ALL v2.xx's have the same result (bad video corruption with the video setting enabled) in tsMuxeR. Doing the same test with tsMuxeR v1.10.6 came out fine but that doesn't support DTS-Express or PIP Video.
What are you using as a playback device? I have done a lot of muxing with the newer TSMUXER and have had no issues. I have also received no other reports like yours.

Another question: Is there actually encoding involved, or is BD-RB keeping the source intact? I can't tell much without a log.
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What are you using as a playback device? I have done a lot of muxing with the newer TSMUXER and have had no issues. I have also received no other reports like yours.

Another question: Is there actually encoding involved, or is BD-RB keeping the source intact? I can't tell much without a log.
I was just about to mention that. I did a test with NO ENCODING being done. I'm going to do a short 2 min clip of the movie and encode it in BD Rebuilder to see if encoding the video fixes the issue. I want to encode it anyway so if it does than that's OK but if somebody wanted to use the no encoding option to blank files or whatever then they'd get that corrupted output.

I have played the BD Rebuilder output (not encoded) in PowerDVD 12, TMT 5.3, and MPC-HC. Everything that I try playing it back on produces the same exact output. I will do a short test encode of only the movie and report my results in a few minutes.

Also note, that people have reported in the tsMuxeR forum that this issue doesn't happen with all movies using the new tsMuxeR. I personally have never had it happen until now.

Edit: I have just finished my short test encode and sure enough the video is fine IF it gets encoded in BD Rebuilder. If it's NOT encoded then the video is horrible to look at. I just want to make this clear: It's not just the main movie that's plagued with the problematic video playback. It's any video that gets processed in BD Rebuilder that DOESN'T get encoded such as intro, trailers, bonus material, etc... I'd imagine that this was never reported before as most people end up having their video encoded but sometimes I come across a title that just needs the extras encoded. It does happen but not often. I think that it's just certain movies that this happens on as I muxed videos with tsMuxeR v2.xx before and have never had this problem.

BTW, if you want I can PM you with an FTP link of a short video clip of the intro that's ~227 MB for you to test out yourself. It'll include the video and DTS core as I removed everything else to do quick and simple testing as this disc includes PIP, DTS-Express, etc...

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