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Old 17th September 2014, 08:13   #21121  |  Link
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Good point. Yes, it's still a raw HEVC bitstream.
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Old 17th September 2014, 09:46   #21122  |  Link
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See sneaker_ger's note. It's better to use for example .265 as extension rather than .mkv which is misleading; sorry.

My tests with muxing:
- Muxing the .265 video+DTS audio to .mkv using mkvmerge works
- Muxing the .265 video+DTS audio to .m2ts using tsMuxeR works here as well. No crashes so far....

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Old 17th September 2014, 11:42   #21123  |  Link
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Greetings and a great day!

For years and used BDRebuilder and all good so far, the problem is in the menu of the series in this case The Originals, Helix ...

Works:
Sound / Buttons / Select the audio and subtitles, etc.

That does not work:

The image or video menu background.

For some reason it makes black (gray in some cases)

All BD works perfectly, except for the image or video menu background.

I put all the clips in blank, and I make sure not to leave blank the menu, but I do what makes me do the same on black background menu.

Here my settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.48.0.5
ENCODER=0
MODE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

Thanks.!

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Old 17th September 2014, 14:51   #21124  |  Link
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Old 17th September 2014, 15:09   #21125  |  Link
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See sneaker_ger's note. It's better to use for example .265 as extension rather than .mkv which is misleading; sorry.

My tests with muxing:
- Muxing the .265 video+DTS audio to .mkv using mkvmerge works
- Muxing the .265 video+DTS audio to .m2ts using tsMuxeR works here as well. No crashes so far....
I didn't get any crashes in the muxing, or in playing the resulting MKV file. I got crashes when trying to play an M2TS file (created by TSMUXER) back via directshow using libde265 (even though it has an option to support splitting of MPEG-TS formats). It also crashes if I try to read it using an AVS via DirectshowSource().
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Wow. I'm very impressed with HEVC encoding using X265. It's incredible at low bitrates. I just did a short 1920x1080 computer animated cartoon with the bitrate set to 800kbs for the video just for the heck of it... I can't believe how good it looks.
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Old 17th September 2014, 22:17   #21127  |  Link
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Wow. I'm very impressed with HEVC encoding using X265. It's incredible at low bitrates. I just did a short 1920x1080 computer animated cartoon with the bitrate set to 800kbs for the video just for the heck of it... I can't believe how good it looks.
What is your player now? MPC-HC with internal LAV works well here for .mkv and .m2ts).
Any special encoder settings used, or just one of the --presets?

Even "normal" 1920x1080 movies look quite good at bitrates as low as about 1100 kbps with --preset faster. Perhaps some loss of details, but nobody here complained in first quick blind tests at reasonable viewing distance.....

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I've always known that X264 could compress anime to fairly low bitrates, given the simple color space nature of cartoons/cgi. But THAT is impressive JD. Can't wait til X265 is more mainstream
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Your post is in violation of Rule #6. The source path in your post clearly indicates illegally obtained content. Further discussion of this matter will result in strikes and possible loss of access to this forum.
Ops my fault. I did not realize that ... I already edited. And I put the question again and thanks for the help.!

the problem is in the menu of the series in this case The Originals, Helix ...

Works:
Sound / Buttons / Select the audio and subtitles, etc.

That does not work:

The image or video menu background.

For some reason it makes black (gray in some cases)

All BD works perfectly, except for the image or video menu background.

I put all the clips in blank, and I make sure not to leave blank the menu, but I do what makes me do the same on black background menu.

Here my settings:

[Options]
VERSION=0.48.0.5
ENCODER=0
MODE=1
ENABLE_TEST=1
ENCODE_QUALITY=4
ONEPASS_ENCODING=0
AUTO_QUALITY=0
QUICK_EXTRAS=1
TARGET_SIZE=23500
AUTO_BURN=2
AUDIO_TO_KEEP=eng;spa;
SUBS_TO_KEEP=all
SD_CONVERT=0
OPEN_GOP=0
RESIZE_1080=0
RESIZE_1440=0
RESIZE_720=0
DEINTERLACE=1
SD_TO_1080=0
IGNORE_3D=0
CONVERT_WIDE=0
DTS_REENCODE=0
AC3_REENCODE=0
AC3_640=1
AC3_192=0
KEEP_HD_AUDIO=1
DECODER=0
AVCHD=1
REMOVE_WORKFILES=1
REMOVE_OUTPUT=1
USE_FILTERS=0
BDMV_CERT_ONLY=1
IVTC_PULLDOWN=0
ASSUME_DVD_PAL=0
FRIMSOURCE=0
COMPLETION_BEEP=0
OUTPUT_SBS=0
NEROAAC=0
SUPTITLE=0
AUDIO_TRACK_LIMIT=0
SUBTITLE_TRACK_LIMIT=0
CUSTOM_TARGET_SIZE=23500
ENABLE_BLANKING=1

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Old 18th September 2014, 00:31   #21130  |  Link
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Editing won't do much good by itself, you will require to provide proof that you own it for help. Even though mention original but due to nature of what happened before uploading screenshot that you own would be nice and will make sure forum stay out of trouble.
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Editing won't do much good by itself, you will require to provide proof that you own it for help. Even though mention original but due to nature of what happened before uploading screenshot that you own would be nice and will make sure forum stay out of trouble.
Sorry but did not understand your comment ...
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Your post is in violation of Rule #6. The source path in your post clearly indicates illegally obtained content. Further discussion of this matter will result in strikes and possible loss of access to this forum.
What part of "Further discussion of this matter will result in strikes..." did you not understand? Editing your post doesn't change the fact that you are obviously attempting to copy illegally obtained content. By attempting to edit and continue discussion you have also violated rule #16.

Strike for Rule #6 violation issued. Careful -- you are within one strike of suspension...
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Wow. I'm very impressed with HEVC encoding using X265. It's incredible at low bitrates. I just did a short 1920x1080 computer animated cartoon with the bitrate set to 800kbs for the video just for the heck of it... I can't believe how good it looks.
Jdobbs, did you get chance to try something else other than animation. Also what preset you are using most of the time.

I am currently doing saving private ryan to test efficiency.

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For my smartphone I am getting very pleasant results for 1280x720, --crf 27 (approx 1200 kbps), --preset fast, at affordable encoding speed of 12fps thanks to the lower resolution.
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Jdobbs, did you get chance to try something else other than animation. Also what preset you are using most of the time.

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I was just seeing how it looked at low bitrates. I'm still doing testing and will try some other sources.

I used BD-RB's "High Quality" -- which translates to X265's preset "medium". For now I've set the default bitrate in BD-RB's ALTERNATE window for HEVC to 2000 Kbs for video. But, of course, that can be changed in the ALTERNATE.TXT file.
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Are you using default setting for x265 or something different.

I am not sure if it happens with your source or not, if you try to seek forward or backward picture get corrupted until next IDR frame.

I just finished saving private ryan and noticed video need at least ABR 3000+ to achieve good quality on that particular source.

I am gone try two pass next.
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Are you using default setting for x265 or something different.

I just finished saving private ryan and noticed video need at least ABR 3000+ to achieve good quality on that particular source.
For which settings / preset / resolution?
Did you compare with x264? I would assume you would need about 4000+ kbps for similar quality, but probably about 3 times faster encoding speed....
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I am using preset medium with resolution 1920*1080 and getting 15 fps during encode. However choosing preset slow (which is next available option after medium speed goes to 6 fps)

Major difference I noticed motion estimation goes from hex to star and result in lower speed. If I chose uneven multihex I get 13 fps on same source and result in better quality.

I am still tweaking and see how it goes, currently doing two pass encode and will keep posted.
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I've always known that X264 could compress anime to fairly low bitrates, given the simple color space nature of cartoons/cgi. But THAT is impressive JD. Can't wait til X265 is more mainstream
For sure it's coming soon. http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923

So now it's time for some of us to upgrade again? I have to admit that Hi-Def has made a huge difference to my viewing pleasure and what it does especially for some of the early B&W such as Cocteau's Beauty and the Beast is as grand as what it does for modern cinema. But for instance with Blade Runner, an all time favorite, I have already bought that movie five times in various formats. But I think at this point, unless the motion pix industry is willing to let me trade in my previous versions for the latest 4k holy grail, it's time I stop supporting them.

Fortunately I believe I can still obtain much satisfaction from HD and the many SD DVD's which have not yet been transferred to HD, and those are many. If per chance I feel as if I'm cheating myself out of the fruits of technology, I'll just remind myself that not too long ago I was watching VHS.
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