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Old 12th December 2017, 06:19   #26801  |  Link
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Try it without the subtitles and see if there any issues at those points
I'm sorry... but, did anyone ask you...?

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I have it working -- and in fact have done a couple backups. But there is still a lot of work to be done in automating the entire process and lots and lots of testing. I'm also sure I will find that there is a lot of tweaking to be done when I try more sources. I also have to consider that the holidays are coming up and which I will be entertaining visitors. I'm guessing I might have a UHD-BD version released by the end of the month -- but more probably it will be some time in January.
Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?
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Old 14th December 2017, 08:18   #26803  |  Link
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Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?
That is a damn good question, which might be vendor specific.

For example, my Samsung BD players will not accept BD authored material on DVD media.
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Old 14th December 2017, 16:18   #26804  |  Link
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I have used dvdfab to compress the same source to bd-50 and bd-25 and both play on an Xbox One S and a Panasonic standalone. However, a Playstation 4 Pro, which supports hdr / uhd (albeit with only a blu ray drive) tries but hangs on a black screen.

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what does that have to do with bdrb, this isn't a dvdfab problem thread
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what does that have to do with bdrb, this isn't a dvdfab problem thread
Why don't you spend more time reading the two posts above mine than being a pillock!
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Old 14th December 2017, 18:16   #26807  |  Link
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Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?
4K on BD-50 is part of the standard -- so yes. My Sony standalone also plays 4K on BD-25 -- and I suspect most do.
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Will a standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player accept and play UHD backup discs that are on BD-R 50 discs?
My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

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My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

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I suspect UHD on BD-25 will work on every player... as BD-50 is included in the specification, and I don't think players distinguish between BD-25/50 (except capacity, of course). BD-25 plays perfectly on my Sony UBP-X800. Since the spec increased the maximum bitrate on BD for UHD-BD, I'm thinking UHD-BD discs always spin at 2x too, but that's just a guess.
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My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

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Maybe oppo 203 with jailbreak firmware support BD-XL, others standalone i do not know.

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For UHD projects, the disk types are:
BD_50_LTR: this output will 50GB, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 64 Mbps
BD_50_DTR: this output will 50GB, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_66_LTR :: This will produce a 66IT, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_66_DTR: this output will a 66IT, double layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 109 Mbps
BD_66_HTR: this output will a 66IT, double layer disc with maximum allowed bitrate up to 109 Mbps in the LTR area and 127.9 Mbps in the HTR zone
BD_100_LTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 81.7 Mbps
BD_100_DTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with a maximum allowable bitrate multiplex of 109 Mbps
BD_100_HTR: this output will a 100GB, triple layer disc with maximum allowed bitrate of up to 109 Mbps in the LTR area and 127.9 Mbps in the HTR zone.

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My Samsung UBD-K8500 have no problem at all with UHD on BD50. Haven't tried BD25 but I don't see why not. What I want to know if anyone of the standalone players accepts BDXL..

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I have a BD-XL burner and BD-XL rewritable disc -- I'll give it a try. I can say for sure, though, that my BD-XL drive won't read a standard UHD-BD disc.
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@ocean -- Thanks. Yeah, I got that and some other good information related to the specification from the "White Paper Blu-ray Disc Read-Only Format (Ultra HD Blu-ray) Audio Visual Application Format Specifications for BD-ROM Version 3.1" which is publicly available for download.
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Thank you for everything you did for all of us, if necessary, I have a compatible system full Blu-Ray UHD: Mainboard ASRock Z270, CPU Kaby Lake I7 7700 iGPU 630, drive Pioneeer BDR-S11J-BK and LG BH16NS55, Samsung UBD-K8500, Xbox ONE X.
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I have a BD-XL burner and BD-XL rewritable disc -- I'll give it a try. I can say for sure, though, that my BD-XL drive won't read a standard UHD-BD disc.
Thanks.. And maybe I should say that I tried BDXL on the Samsung but it didn't work.

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Old 18th December 2017, 00:54   #26816  |  Link
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I'm still working on the UHD-BD capability in BD-RB -- but I thought some of you might find this post interesting in the meantime.

Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas to you too, Jdobbs.

Quick question on UHD-BD...when re-encoding video streams to fit onto a BD-25 or BD-50, do you lose HDR or is it somehow retained? Thanks.

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Merry Christmas to you too, Jdobbs.

Quick question on UHD-BD...when re-encoding video streams to fit onto a BD-25 or BD-50, do you lose HDR or is it somehow retained? Thanks.

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That would depend upon what you are using to serve the frames. But, yes, you can retain it when reencoding with X265.
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Do you mean x265? x264 cannot set master display information AFAIK.
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Do you mean x265? x264 cannot set master display information AFAIK.
Yep. My mistake. I corrected it.
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