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Old 31st March 2019, 11:19   #55581  |  Link
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I'll put my vote in for lTSC 2019.

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I have the (V)RAM and I don't see how it would create an additional workload except when the queues are filling up obviously. More frames are just decoded/rendered ahead of time, but there isn't more total work?
Performance wise It doesn't appear to be quite as simple as only having higher usage when the queue needs to be fully sated and at all other times things being equal, test it for yourself.

If I lower queues to standard 16/8 my fan speed drops to nothing, my clocks lower, GPU usage is higher as a result and predicted wattage is around 10% with my setup as it is on Full HD content.
If I increase this to 32/16 my fan speed is now 20% my clocks are higher, GPU usage is lower but predicted watts are almost twice that of the standard queues.

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Old 31st March 2019, 12:33   #55582  |  Link
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I'll put my vote in for lTSC 2019.
Thanks! Any specific things I need to keep in mind like which driver version,any windows display settings & any win 10 specific madvr optimization. My tv is 1080p60Hz non-hdr & I currently use smooth motion option & most of my media is 720p/1080p SDR 23.76fps.
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Old 31st March 2019, 12:45   #55583  |  Link
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Should I go with win 8.1,ltsb 2016 or ltsc 2019?
I vote for ltsb 2016, that's what I use and I don't upgrade it until LAV or madVR requires it.
The reason behind this is MS breaks stuff with every new version, so your older utils that you may use and haven't been updated for a while may break too. (E.g. Winaero Theme Switcher)

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which driver version
Since you (will) have a Pascal card just use the old 385.28 driver.
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Old 31st March 2019, 12:55   #55584  |  Link
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Wait to see what others recommend, for drivers see if the latest works for you without issues, and stick with it until such time you feel it's worthwhile to upgrade and are prepared to take time to test it. The latest 419.67 apparently seems to be fine for the 10 series but 385.28 is the least problematic at time of writing.
Display settings, just what others have said.. Adaptive power mode and disable Focus Assist, pretty much everything else I can think of is fine with defaults. A 1050 is likely to have less issues with drivers (like the stuttering of recent drivers on some the newer cards)
If you can do 24Hz on your TV and create a display custom mode for it in madVR you may find that delivers the best experience, assess it vs your current setup with Smooth Motion enabled and decide for yourself.

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Old 31st March 2019, 13:57   #55585  |  Link
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how can you compare speed
rx590 vs rtx2060 vs gtx1080ti
FullHD in 4K
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Old 31st March 2019, 16:26   #55586  |  Link
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Since you (will) have a Pascal card just use the old 385.23 driver.
Is the driver 385.28 the same like 385.23?
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Old 31st March 2019, 18:37   #55587  |  Link
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Is the driver 385.28 the same like 385.23?
385.28, I managed to screw it up, sorry.
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Old 31st March 2019, 19:33   #55588  |  Link
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The latest 419.67 apparently seems to be fine for the 10 series but 385.23 is the least problematic at time of writing.
That's what I'm seeing as well. My 1060 worked fine with new drivers, but my 1660 is stuttering like crazy unless I do fullscreen exclusive (even then I'm getting stutters every 45 seconds or so).

I tried downgrading drivers, but older drivers simply won't detect the 1660 as a compatible card. I'm totally pulling my hair out as my HTPC is pretty much garbage with UHD 4k content at this point.

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Old 31st March 2019, 20:37   #55589  |  Link
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Have you tried changing v-sync to on with the latest driver? That's apparently is the cause of the stuttering.
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Old 31st March 2019, 21:13   #55590  |  Link
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If you want to keep the same Windows version for a long time (how long exactly?) but also upgrade to a more recent graphics card later, be aware that later hardware may need a minimum Windows 10 version to work. For example GeForce 20 series released 09/2018 need Windows 1709 minimum someone using LTSC 2016 would be out of luck. An hypothetical GeForce 21 or 22 series may or may not work on Windows LTSC 2019.

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If I increase this [queues] to 32/16 my fan speed is now 20% my clocks are higher, GPU usage is lower but predicted watts are almost twice that of the standard queues.
That's interesting. My clocks are basically the same with 16/8 and 32/16, but my card is passively cooled and lower power so maybe the power management is different.
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Have you tried changing v-sync to on with the latest driver? That's apparently is the cause of the stuttering.
Yep, Vsync is set to on. Power is set to prefer max performance.
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Yep, Vsync is set to on. Power is set to prefer max performance.
just based on my own experience of not having fixed it yet do you have HDR enabled or are playing back HDR content? This seems to be my sticking point at the moment.

Right now I'm running 419.67 with an RTX2060
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385.28, I managed to screw it up, sorry.
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Old 1st April 2019, 08:18   #55594  |  Link
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just based on my own experience of not having fixed it yet do you have HDR enabled or are playing back HDR content? This seems to be my sticking point at the moment.

Right now I'm running 419.67 with an RTX2060
Windows HDR is off. I'm using MPC-BE and MadVR to pass through HDR to my LG C8. Worked perfect before I upgraded to this 1660 GTX. I've tried both 419.67 and 419.35 (the only 2 drivers that support the 1660 at this point in time). They both have huge stuttering issues. It is a bit strange though, when I initially installed .35 and enabled vsync in Nvidia control panel, everything seemed fine. After a couple of reboots and various video files, the issues came back. Really frustrating!
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Hoping you guys can help me get deinterlacing working better on my setup. I just ripped my Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 1 NTSC DVDs to MKV files (no re-encoding of video or audio) with MakeMKV and I'm trying to play them back with MPC-HC and madVR (using MPC-HC's internal LAV filters). I don't have much experience at all playing back interlaced content - it's 2019, after all - so bear with me.

My first problem is that I can see a lot of combing artifacts in certain spots, typically in frames with motion that come immediately after a cut: Episode 7 01:00.277, Episode 11 00:11.713.

My second problem is that deinterlacing doesn't get activated on 3 out of the 12 episodes according to marVR's OSD. These happen to be the 3 episodes that start with a cold open (straight to the first scene of the episode), rather than the usual intro sequence. If I switch the deinterlacing setting in madVR from "if in doubt, deactivate deinterlacing" to "if in doubt, activate deinterlacing," then deinterlacing is activated on all 12 episodes.

Sample clips: First 15 seconds of episode 1, Clip from episode 7 (I see a lot of combing when the guy lights the lighter)

One last thing that I've noticed is that in every sequence except for the intro sequence, I get a ton of repeated frames. In fact, when I step through the video frame by frame, every frame is repeated once.

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So the best driver for pascal cards is 385.28, also works good with madvr? I'm with 382.53, thinking about goin' for 385.28.
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For example GeForce 20 series released 09/2018 need Windows 1709 minimum
Are you sure about this? I haven't seen any restrictions with 2xxx series (note, I don't have such card).

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So the best driver for pascal cards is 385.28, also works good with madvr? I'm with 382.53, thinking about goin' for 385.28.
That's the latest one that doesn't brake lot of stuff , not necessarily the best. I wouldn't upgrade if everything works for you now, until you are bored
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That's the latest one that doesn't brake lot of stuff , not necessarily the best. I wouldn't upgrade if everything works for you now, until you are bored
Well, I don't have any issues with the version I'm using, so I guess I'll stick to 382.53
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Are you sure about this? I haven't seen any restrictions with 2xxx series
He is correct.
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My first problem is that I can see a lot of combing artifacts in certain spots...

My second problem is that deinterlacing doesn't get activated on 3 out of the 12 episodes according to marVR's OSD. These happen to be the 3 episodes that start with a cold open (straight to the first scene of the episode), rather than the usual intro sequence. If I switch the deinterlacing setting in madVR from "if in doubt, deactivate deinterlacing" to "if in doubt, activate deinterlacing," then deinterlacing is activated on all 12 episodes.

One last thing that I've noticed is that in every sequence except for the intro sequence, I get a ton of repeated frames. In fact, when I step through the video frame by frame, every frame is repeated once.
Try to use ivtc (force film mode). It will not completely solve problems with combing artifacts in certain spots, but will solve the problem with the duplication of frames.

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